Kenevo SL Official 2022 Kenevo SL (KSL) Megathread!

dirt-diggler · Jan 5, 2024

George_KSL said:
Based on your name, I presume your KSL is already mulleted :- ) ? If not, then mullet is good part of possible solution.
Other is, how long have you had each? Every new bike feels much better. (novelty, freshly setup suspension, fresh tyres,...).
With that said, it will always be 20kg plushy linear tractor.

Nothing ridiculous about running KSL in 27.5. Get at least 180mm fork, ideally even 190 and you're set.
Poppy & Playful is quite often about suspension setup, rarely does linkage make such a dramatic difference people think. Coil with fast rebound and suddenly everything is poppy..

With that said, having multiple similar, overlapping bikes won't make you feel happier in my opinion. I intentionally keep only pump-track bike alongside my KSL. No overlap between them at all. No misery of choice & comparison for me :- )

Already mullet

Fitted shorter cranks, that's one more step towards being more like the patrol!

Interesting you mention suspension, both running fox X2, maybe I need to compare how they are set up. I always go off base settings then adjust to how I feel comfortable riding familiar trails

sethimus · Jan 5, 2024

what’s the bb drop in high setting when going mullet?

George_KSL · Jan 6, 2024

I don't guarantee all these numbers, but this is configuration I used before I converted mine S3. It should (if I input all correctly), feature 170mm ZEB fork, HighBB setting and default neutral middle angle on front.

With that said, with Mullet, BB Drop is kinda meaningless value since it's offset from each axle differently (hence why some websites quote BB-Drop per Axle).
It rides perfectly though for me. I use stock cranks, and I am very mediocre rider and I never strike pedal (and I use thick Deity Tmacs).
The table below is from bike-stats - Alles zum Thema Fahrrad Geometrie

sethimus · Jan 6, 2024

thats similar to what i calculated, i should be quite similar to the banshee titan mullet setup in low settings i ride right now. i even should be able to run the 210mm oneup again without reducing the drop (long legs 4tw)

can someone confirm the ~340mm bb height in real life measurings?

iamanej · Jan 8, 2024

Has anyone else find out that stock Roval alloy rims are really really soft?
I've bend mine twice in 8 months + had a huge dent which is not holding up air anymore so I had to buy a new one today. I am switching to DT Swiss 471.

Redders473 · Jan 8, 2024

iamanej said:
Has anyone else find out that stock Roval alloy rims are really really soft?
I've bend mine twice in 8 months + had a huge dent which is not holding up air anymore so I had to buy a new one today. I am switching to DT Swiss 471.

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Roval rims are made cheese really soft cheese like brie

iamanej · Jan 8, 2024

Redders473 said:
Roval rims are made cheese really soft cheese like brie

I totally agree. Not suitable for 19,5kg bike with 90kg driver. At least not as rear wheel - the front is holding up quite ok for now.

Redders473 · Jan 8, 2024

iamanej said:
I totally agree. Not suitable for 19,5kg bike with 90kg driver. At least not as rear wheel - the front is holding up quite ok for now.

Running an insert is a must if you don't want to replace them

tabbibus · Jan 9, 2024

Redders473 said:
Running an insert is a must if you don't want to replace them

I added cush to the back. Already had a dent at 2m of riding

KnollyBro · Jan 14, 2024

tabbibus said:
I added cush to the back. Already had a dent at 2m of riding

Impressive! How much do you weigh? What tire pressure are you running at? If you are using Cushcore and still getting dents in your rims, either you are hitting square edge rocks really hard with your suspension not setup well or those wheels were made out of cheese. Which wheels were you using before you switched? Any issues with them? I upgraded my KSL to DT Swiss EX511 rims.

tabbibus · Jan 14, 2024

KnollyBro said:
Impressive! How much do you weigh? What tire pressure are you running at? If you are using Cushcore and still getting dents in your rims, either you are hitting square edge rocks really hard with your suspension not setup well or those wheels were made out of cheese. Which wheels were you using before you switched? Any issues with them? I upgraded my KSL to DT Swiss EX511 rims.

Sorry I wasn't clear. I JUST put it cush. The first 2 months was no cush and that's how I got the dent. I tend to run lower pressures. Low 20s high teens. But that's because I was used to always having cushcore. I got the KSL and didn't get around to putting in the inserts until just now but I still ran the low pressures. Lol. Bad idea.

Still running the stock cheese wheels

Pete N · Jan 14, 2024

The Roval carbon wheels are very good. Been running them for 12 years now and not one issue but very mixed reviews on the alloy ones.
Currently have Traverse SL on the LSL which are decent and spin pretty well. I have newest Control SL on the Epic Evo, which are just insane. I’m 86kg. I’ve ridden a few other carbon wheel brands but prefer the Rovals for feel, and especially weight on the Control SL’s. I imagine they’d probably work just fine on the LSL too as I’d be just inside the weight limit for them. Not cheap though but I got a good deal.

johned · Jan 16, 2024

Just went into Mission Control to tweak my bike and it suggested switching to the Specialized App.
Just wondering what the latest is? Does it do everything that MC does?
TVM
J

Semmelrocc · Jan 16, 2024

Yes, the Specialized App is the new one. I think you can have and use them both simultaneously in order to get used to the new one.

johned · Jan 16, 2024

Semmelrocc said:
Yes, the Specialized App is the new one. I think you can have and use them both simultaneously in order to get used to the new one.

Good idea, I've installed both

tabbibus · Jan 16, 2024

I only use the new one. Didn't even install the MC app on my new phone

tabbibus · Jan 16, 2024

FYI, just heard back from Fox, I'm being sent a new 2024 Factory X2. Sent in my stock performance x2 due to squelching sounds

MLX John · Jan 17, 2024

iamanej said:
Has anyone else find out that stock Roval alloy rims are really really soft?
I've bend mine twice in 8 months + had a huge dent which is not holding up air anymore so I had to buy a new one today. I am switching to DT Swiss 471.

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I don't dent rims. I managed to put 3 dents on the rear stock Traverse on my gen3 Levo.
Built up a wheelset w/XM481 rims. Problem solved.

initzx · Jan 21, 2024

iamanej said:
Has anyone else find out that stock Roval alloy rims are really really soft?
I've bend mine twice in 8 months + had a huge dent which is not holding up air anymore so I had to buy a new one today. I am switching to DT Swiss 471.

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initzx · Jan 21, 2024

iamanej said:
Has anyone else find out that stock Roval alloy rims are really really soft?
I've bend mine twice in 8 months + had a huge dent which is not holding up air anymore so I had to buy a new one today. I am switching to DT Swiss 471.

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Same here on my KSL Comp, on my second outing (yeah only 2...), had to upgrade (Duke Fury Star wheelset) and put CushCore.

Anyone have successfully used an another sensor magnet than the original ? Stock rotor bends with the Hope hubs...

Dax · Jan 21, 2024

initzx said:
Anyone had successfully used an another sensor magnet than the original ? Stock rotor bends with the Hope hubs...

How/where is it bending? Mine is fine on pro4 hubs afaik

initzx · Jan 21, 2024

I've the Pro 5 ones, I think the magnet is putting too much pressure (The screws are tightened with a torque wrench). It's almost not noticeable until the wheel turns. While turning, rotor is twisting.
I've put washers between magnet and rotor, it's way better but not 100% good. Before brake upgrade (most likely T4 V4), i would like to find a solution without DIY.

Kevinwilson · Jan 21, 2024

Please could i ask if you have a 1.1 or 1.2 motor, please can you log into mission control app and tell me the motor number. Most bothered about the first two numbers. Mine is 12 at the start of the motor.

Tha ks in advance for any help with this.

sethimus · Jan 21, 2024

Kevinwilson said:
Please could i ask if you have a 1.1 or 1.2 motor, please can you log into mission control app and tell me the motor number. Most bothered about the first two numbers. Mine is 12 at the start of the motor.

Tha ks in advance for any help with this.

he has the orange frame, pretty self explanatory…

Kevinwilson · Jan 21, 2024

sethimus said:
he has the orange frame, pretty self explanatory…

Sorry what do you mean? I just want to know what the first two numbers are on peoples motors on 1.1 and 1.2 motors. As i say mine starts with 12####

johned · Jan 21, 2024

initzx said:
I've the Pro 5 ones, I think the magnet is putting too much pressure (The screws are tightened with a torque wrench). It's almost not noticeable until the wheel turns. While turning, rotor is twisting.
I've put washers between magnet and rotor, it's way better but not 100% good. Before brake upgrade (most likely T4 V4), i would like to find a solution without DIY.

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Buy a magnet and gorilla glue off ebay. Glue the magnet to the disc - worked for me when I upgraded to Galfer CL discs and the Spesh magnet didn't fit. Also it is very discrete, you can hardly see it

initzx · Jan 21, 2024

Kevinwilson said:
Please could i ask if you have a 1.1 or 1.2 motor, please can you log into mission control app and tell me the motor number. Most bothered about the first two numbers. Mine is 12 at the start of the motor.

Tha ks in advance for any help with this.

It's first gen of KSL so 1.1

Kevinwilson · Jan 21, 2024

Sorry thats not what im asking. I want to know the motor numbers in the app. Its a long number. When i go in mine says 12######### what im wanting to know is if this starting number is different on the 1.1 motor and 1.2 motor.

initzx · Jan 21, 2024

johned said:
Buy a magnet and gorilla glue off ebay. Glue the magnet to the disc - worked for me when I upgraded to Galfer CL discs and the Spesh magnet didn't fit. Also it is very discrete, you can hardly see it

I would like a "plug and play" solution, but I'll make a note of it.

johned · Jan 21, 2024

initzx said:
I would like a "plug and play" solution, but I'll make a note of it.

100% mate, that was what I was looking for too.
Good luck and let us know how you get on

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