greeting. what surface did you drive on? it seems to me that the range is too small for me. I have 800wh
. with 800 wh I managed to do 40 km and 1900 altitude.Reign E+ 2022
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. with 800 wh I managed to do 40 km and 1900 altitude.Rando_12345
E*POWAH Master
New Giant Reign e+2 2022 owner, answering my own questions here:
Got it for 6k with both the 630 and 800 (on backorder 2 month wait) battery in France. Didn't push too hard, but realised quite fast that the shop didn't care at all if I kept the original battery, they would barely lower the price €200 without it. The 2023 models are backordered until August in France.
Out of the shop with tubes and the plastic pedals the bike weighs 25.8kg. But great news is that the tubes in mine were pretty much DH spec 350g each, so a lot of weight to shed going tubeless.
Positive surprises:
1) Despite the added weight and much longer geo, the bike is still plenty fun for me, although I am running extremely low sag front and back to keep it up high and poppy.
2) Love the minimalism of the controls, tiny controls and flush power mode and battery indicator. Further like that you can connect the phone in an instant to get the accurate battery reading.
3) Seatpost and brakes: knows quantities but still very happy with the range of motion on the seatpost, steep seat angles make a big difference. Brakes well strong despite not loving Sram levers.I will probably move over my 180mm oneup post and 223 galfer rotors, but good to know these are not necessary upgrades.
Negative surprises:
1) I knew this would happen, but my bike is like Rob's one in the review: the geo does not match the spec sheet. In low the bike was 62.9degrees and BB 325mm off the ground. Bumped it to high, headangle is at 63.8 (happy about this) but BB is still down around 332mm which is bonkers low for a 160mm bike. Even with the 160mm cranks I smashed the pedals a number of times and even the motor protection got hooked up a few times. Need to figure out something for this: massive under headset spacer, custom length shock, bigger rear tyres...
2) Power is not that impressive, I did an hour long test in the most powerful mode. Coming from an e8000 with 20% less torque and max asistance set to 200% assistance, the max power on the Giant feels roughly similar despite a claimed 85NM of torque and 400% assistance. To be clear, I don't need more power than there is, but I was expecting a much bigger bump up, I found myself getting quite tired during sprints and you can't quite just sit and spin on the flat. That being said I do think you get more power out of the motor on smooth inclines, and I did clear very technical climbs without issue.
3) Horrendous cracking sounds from the drivetrain in steep climbs, I'll ask the shop to sort it out if it persists after the drivetrain upgrade.
Up next:
Waiting on a front wheel delivery, going to go with a pair of EX 1700 wheels, which I am expecting to drop the rolling weight 300g, switching up the drivetrain to 11s X01 to drop another 300g of unsprung weight, so adding all that up with tubeless it may well be that the felt power changes dramatically. I'll dust out my gopro for a rolling review once it is setup.
Got it for 6k with both the 630 and 800 (on backorder 2 month wait) battery in France. Didn't push too hard, but realised quite fast that the shop didn't care at all if I kept the original battery, they would barely lower the price €200 without it. The 2023 models are backordered until August in France.
Out of the shop with tubes and the plastic pedals the bike weighs 25.8kg. But great news is that the tubes in mine were pretty much DH spec 350g each, so a lot of weight to shed going tubeless.
Positive surprises:
1) Despite the added weight and much longer geo, the bike is still plenty fun for me, although I am running extremely low sag front and back to keep it up high and poppy.
2) Love the minimalism of the controls, tiny controls and flush power mode and battery indicator. Further like that you can connect the phone in an instant to get the accurate battery reading.
3) Seatpost and brakes: knows quantities but still very happy with the range of motion on the seatpost, steep seat angles make a big difference. Brakes well strong despite not loving Sram levers.I will probably move over my 180mm oneup post and 223 galfer rotors, but good to know these are not necessary upgrades.
Negative surprises:
1) I knew this would happen, but my bike is like Rob's one in the review: the geo does not match the spec sheet. In low the bike was 62.9degrees and BB 325mm off the ground. Bumped it to high, headangle is at 63.8 (happy about this) but BB is still down around 332mm which is bonkers low for a 160mm bike. Even with the 160mm cranks I smashed the pedals a number of times and even the motor protection got hooked up a few times. Need to figure out something for this: massive under headset spacer, custom length shock, bigger rear tyres...
2) Power is not that impressive, I did an hour long test in the most powerful mode. Coming from an e8000 with 20% less torque and max asistance set to 200% assistance, the max power on the Giant feels roughly similar despite a claimed 85NM of torque and 400% assistance. To be clear, I don't need more power than there is, but I was expecting a much bigger bump up, I found myself getting quite tired during sprints and you can't quite just sit and spin on the flat. That being said I do think you get more power out of the motor on smooth inclines, and I did clear very technical climbs without issue.
3) Horrendous cracking sounds from the drivetrain in steep climbs, I'll ask the shop to sort it out if it persists after the drivetrain upgrade.
Up next:
Waiting on a front wheel delivery, going to go with a pair of EX 1700 wheels, which I am expecting to drop the rolling weight 300g, switching up the drivetrain to 11s X01 to drop another 300g of unsprung weight, so adding all that up with tubeless it may well be that the felt power changes dramatically. I'll dust out my gopro for a rolling review once it is setup.
NicoMTB
Member
Have you tried the launch tunning? can it help to tone down the engine when you start in a slippery greasy slope?
How much are they? Might order one even though I don’t need it
NicoMTB
Member
I get about the same 40 to 50 km high altitude 1700 to 2000m vertical. And I'll finish with 15 to 20% left but I do ride with 2.5 dh casing sticky DH tires, Assegai up front Dissector at the rear... I think i can improve that with fitness, as most of the tour will be in eco except in steep technical climbsgreeting. what surface did you drive on? it seems to me that the range is too small for me. I have 800wh
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Which battery you have? I drive in 1 and 2 assist.
NicoMTB
Member
yes I use Mode 1 and 2 mostly and some smart assist over 7 to 8km and a few blasts with the mode 5 , on the 800whr Battery.
nearly..i think someone is trying to tell me not to bother with this bike.replacement came from giant even worse,asked for a refund
mayb I can bag a 2023 model this time next year
mayb I can bag a 2023 model this time next year
pwiles1968
Member
All of the bearings axles etc were dry on my bike from new greased them while looking for a creak on my bike that turned out to be the seat tube.
greeting. what surface did you drive on? it seems to me that the range is too small for me. I have 800wh
Surface was wet, muddy and feeling pretty tough on 50% power. I "only" have the 625Wh battery though, run a beefy hellkat up front and a heavy supergravity Schwalbe in the back plus some extra weight from coilshock / xl frame. My weight of around 220 does not help either. It feels ok range wise now. It was really bad before the update. My friend who is 45 pounds lighter gets more range out of his 500wh battery with Ep8000 motor.
I tried adjusting the lock with no success. It was spot on.
In the end I took the look out and opened it. The mechanism is not so thought out after all. Basically the t25 torx screw moves a block of metall with a sharp edge over a 45° angle flat surface to push out the locking bolt. In my case it had scratched the surface so much, that with no grease/oil it simply could not move. I polished the surface and put in a bunch of grease, works perfectly again.
pwiles1968
Member
They have been looking at the new Giant Bikes a lot on EMBN its the New Light Trance not Reign BUT they have the same App and they have been discussing the different settings including the Launch Setting, The Launch if you did not know controls how fast the power builds to the max you have set for the mode I was not sure now I know 
. Video here starts at 7:20
. Video here starts at 7:20 
Buckaroony
Member
For anyone who was considering going for shorter cranks, I can confirm they totally transform the ride.
Went for Hope 155mm on my medium and absolutely loving them - hardly ever get pedal strikes now. No effect on pedal performance that I could detect.
Went for Hope 155mm on my medium and absolutely loving them - hardly ever get pedal strikes now. No effect on pedal performance that I could detect.
pwiles1968
Member
I have 150mm Mirandas love them
I wish the Smart Assist assistance level could be adjusted. It doesn't feel natural at all to me. I hope the opportunity would come sometime.
It's great that these updates came.
Still running the oem Praxis cranks on mine, but I'm just wondering what is the offset of the Hope cranks that everyone are buying ? Standard ?
Buckaroony
Member
Yes standard.
Does anyone know why this is happening?
When you stop pedaling the chain doesn't stop, I've already cleaned and put grease on the cassette bearings and wheel hub and everything spins freely. Is there a problem with the crankshaft bearing?
Watch video Giant Reign E+1 2022 - share-me.video
When you stop pedaling the chain doesn't stop, I've already cleaned and put grease on the cassette bearings and wheel hub and everything spins freely. Is there a problem with the crankshaft bearing?
Watch video Giant Reign E+1 2022 - share-me.video
Sorry, the video does not work, but I would suspect the free hub is in someway knackered.
Is Shimano hub?
No, its dt swiss
it is a freehub issue. Remove, clean, soft grease and done.
Check the spring which move the 3 pawls, perhaps is broken.
Yes, can see it now, does confirm that it is a free hub issue.
I have done that, but I will check the spring.
I will check it again
After some investigation and testing I ended up finding out that was the problem.
The problem is with the axle pacer the original is aluminum and the ones they sell to replace are steel.
Basically axle space starts to wear out and when tightening the axle screw with the indicated 15 nm, it starts to put a lot of load on the bearings. A way to test to see if this is your problem is to tighten the shaft screw with 9/10 nm if it works fine, that's the problem.
In my case that was the problem and the part that needs to be bought is this one
DT Swiss 10.1 mm steel axle spacer for 3-pawl freehubs, HBDT985
DT Swiss 10.1 mm steel axle spacer for 3-pawl freehubs, HBDT985, Price: £2.99. Genuine DT Swiss 10.1 mm steel axle spacer for 3-pawl freehubs
www.giantbikespares.com
Excellent, thanks for sharing the feedback. Could be useful!
I am a user of Hope and Hunt hubs mostly, but on my Reign this is my first DT Swiss, sorry I could not offer more advice other than confirming the diagnostic. I did wonder about spacers, on Hope Hubs there is a little washer that I sometimes forget between hub body and freehub, and it then exhibits the same symptoms.
Anyway, well done, and thanks again for sharing the outcome.
I am a user of Hope and Hunt hubs mostly, but on my Reign this is my first DT Swiss, sorry I could not offer more advice other than confirming the diagnostic. I did wonder about spacers, on Hope Hubs there is a little washer that I sometimes forget between hub body and freehub, and it then exhibits the same symptoms.
Anyway, well done, and thanks again for sharing the outcome.
Rando_12345
E*POWAH Master
First big ride away from my local trails. Great day out despite 2 broken spokes on my rear ex1700 wheel :/
Borrowed a 750Wh battery from the shop along with my 625Wh, did a total of 2500m of climbing over 60km. I got 1500m of elevation done in 2 hours over 35km with a few steep climbs almost entirely in max power mode with the 750Wh, was a bit bummed about the short time until empty, but the elevation was what I expected. I felt like the last 20% evaporated into thin air and I had to pedal in off mode the last mostly flat 3 km.
Bike feels good though, great to have almost 0 weight penalty for the 750Wh (300g according to my scales), can't wait for my 800Wh and slightly warmer conditions.
Video of one descent here to give myself some credibility
Borrowed a 750Wh battery from the shop along with my 625Wh, did a total of 2500m of climbing over 60km. I got 1500m of elevation done in 2 hours over 35km with a few steep climbs almost entirely in max power mode with the 750Wh, was a bit bummed about the short time until empty, but the elevation was what I expected. I felt like the last 20% evaporated into thin air and I had to pedal in off mode the last mostly flat 3 km.
Bike feels good though, great to have almost 0 weight penalty for the 750Wh (300g according to my scales), can't wait for my 800Wh and slightly warmer conditions.
Video of one descent here to give myself some credibility
Jaysus, there's some steep (!) ruts in there, holy moly! Good riding, not sure I'd be comfortable with a lot of that stuff, good effort.Video of one descent here to give myself some credibility
I love dry trails, but that looked sketchier than mud!
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