He'll do anything for views.
I'm curious as to what reach frame you would run with a standard 35mm stem, and now what reach frame you use with a stem that is approximately 50mm shorter. Same frame reduced reach, or slightly longer frame and slightly reduced reach?
Last I checked they were out of stock and not shipping till next month.
I bought it from @BeMoreBikes at sea otter
Because you cannot get the same position at all with what you’re suggesting. I’ve tried pretty much every combo of stem length and rise.What I don't understand with this whole thing is, if you want your bars in that position then why not use a riser bar and a "normal" stem rather than this bizarre looking stem and a regular handlebar?
If you ran something like a BMX cruiser handlebar the bike would actually look good, rather than.... not good
That type of thinking would still have us on these:What I don't understand with this whole thing is, if you want your bars in that position then why not use a riser bar and a "normal" stem rather than this bizarre looking stem and a regular handlebar?
If you ran something like a BMX cruiser handlebar the bike would actually look good, rather than.... not good
To me it looks like a steerer extender with an unusual stem on the top, but hey, what do I know?What I don't understand with this whole thing is, if you want your bars in that position then why not use a riser bar and a "normal" stem rather than this bizarre looking stem and a regular handlebar?
If you ran something like a BMX cruiser handlebar the bike would actually look good, rather than.... not good
Thing is, 5 years ago 35mm riser bar was massive. Now it’s the norm. In fact loads of folks running 40-50mm bars as standard. Progress can be slow if we just follow what a manufacturer thinks is the best thing for us.To me it looks like a steerer extender with an unusual stem on the top, but hey, what do I know?
You can’t get the benefit from a traditional stem. This stem changes where your input into the bar is on the steering axis. It’s not just about rise. Even a normal stem with huge rise bar pushed back to the rider wouldn’t be the same because your input is still in front of the fork steer tube if that makes sense? Could put you in similar ride position, but wouldn’t be the same effect overall.What I don't understand with this whole thing is, if you want your bars in that position then why not use a riser bar and a "normal" stem rather than this bizarre looking stem and a regular handlebar?
If you ran something like a BMX cruiser handlebar the bike would actually look good, rather than.... not good
Ignore manufacturers info because what they say is defined by what sells in the showrooms which are full of bikes with flat bars and cut down steerers. It's as much bollox as the widely touted "general principle of not having handlebars in front of the fork axle". FAFO, go only by feel and what works best. Always function before fashion, fuck what people think.
I agree with you on the looks - I used 4" rise bars and short reach stems reversed, but, a normal stem won't give you -15mm reach.What I don't understand with this whole thing is, if you want your bars in that position then why not use a riser bar and a "normal" stem rather than this bizarre looking stem and a regular handlebar?
If you ran something like a BMX cruiser handlebar the bike would actually look good, rather than.... not good
Noo, 35mm rise was not massive; that's been about the norm for over 10 years I'd say. I've been running bars taller than that for over 25 years!
This is completely untrue.
I remember my 180/180 Kenevo came with 27mm rise bars. This was a long slack enduro sled back in the day!
its a REVERSED stem - a normal stem isnt reversed! This stem puts the bars into a reverse offset position, approx 15mm, that you cannot do with a standard 30-40mm stem.
That had low bars then, it certainly wasn't odd to have 35mm bars.
But you can mount a stem 'wrong way round', shocking I know.
AI isn’t always right, but I guess we’re both wrong?
The key difference: where the bar rotates from
But look how short the steerer is cut!
And tiny headtube! Can’t remember what it was on S5 but wasn’t huge.But look how short the steerer is cut!
I think you can, if you start looking at what's available in the BMX world.... there is a whole world of bar designs out there in every height and dimensions imaginable.
Interesting - good find
