Pole Voima 190mm Travel EMTB

[theklaw]

Wondering about dropper post lengths. Currently I’m right at 6’1” inseam 34-35”. What size dropper is everyone running there builds? Got a K3 on order.

I’m 6’2” with 34 inseam and the 170mm fits well on the K3 although the collar for the dropper is 5cm from top of the seat tube so the 200mm would fit and give a bit more clearance when dropped although I have plenty of space to move around and the seat doesn’t get in the way at all.

I ride mainly expert trails with decent drops, rocks, roots and off camber sections, and can confirm that this is a very fast bike. I run out of capability way before the bike does.

Have installed a 27.5 on the rear to make it quicker around corners and that made a big difference. Way more confidence not having to set up for right corners well in advance anymore.

Also only have the Bosch remote on the LED model with no other displays and have zero buyers remorse, even with the release of the new ID model

 

[Jay29er]

Thank you all for your responses. Going with the bike yoke 185.

 

[cozzy]

I’m 6’2” with 34 inseam and the 170mm fits well on the K3 although the collar for the dropper is 5cm from top of the seat tube so the 200mm would fit and give a bit more clearance when dropped although I have plenty of space to move around and the seat doesn’t get in the way at all.

I ride mainly expert trails with decent drops, rocks, roots and off camber sections, and can confirm that this is a very fast bike. I run out of capability way before the bike does.

Have installed a 27.5 on the rear to make it quicker around corners and that made a big difference. Way more confidence not having to set up for right corners well in advance anymore.

Also only have the Bosch remote on the LED model with no other displays and have zero buyers remorse, even with the release of the new ID model

Any pics or info on geometry changes? Not seen any mullet bikes yet, but I will 100% be doing this when I buy mine.

 

[theklaw]

Any pics or info on geometry changes? Not seen any mullet bikes yet, but I will 100% be doing this when I buy mine.

Yep, measured the head tube at 63 with the 29er which surprised me because spec on the pole site is 63.5.
Anyway switched to mullet with a fat old DHR II (2.8) and HTA slackened to 62.
This thing is a beast. I smashed 7 x PR on my local trails today.

 

[cozzy]

Yep, measured the head tube at 63 with the 29er which surprised me because spec on the pole site is 63.5.
Anyway switched to mullet with a fat old DHR II (2.8) and HTA slackened to 62.
This thing is a beast. I smashed 7 x PR on my local trails today.

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Nice thanks for the pics. Sweet. I dislike full 29ers. They just looks weird & ungainly.

 

[theklaw]

Nice thanks for the pics. Sweet. I dislike full 29ers. They just looks weird & ungainly.

I have more of an MX background so it works for me.
Used the MAVIC E-Deemax 35 27.5´´ MTB Rear Wheel Black 12 x 148 mm/Sram XD, so a wider rim which suits the plus size tyre well

 

[Onetime]

Hey everyone, I thought i’d let evereverybody know i’m going to sell my K1 Voima frameset. I really love this bike, but I really really want the new K1 race id frameset. Mainly because I run full 27.5 and a 40, so the new frame with a narrower head tube will give me a better turning radius with the 40 and the slightly better ground clearance will help me since i’m running full 27.5 wheels. Also I am a bit of a weight weenie and the new frame with the race motor will be a pound lighter. So the wife says I have to sell this one before I can buy the new one. The frame will include the original Rockshox rear shock which only has a couple rides on it, (since i’ve been using a Fox X2) as well as the frame guard and chainguide and bash guard. I can also include it with the Cane Creek headset and 165mm e13 carbon cranks and an unused 34t e13 chainring if you want. Also, the motor has been reprogrammed for 27.5 wheels so you will get the full 20mph if you run it in a mullet setup or maybe slightly faster with a 29” I think. I will ship it in the original box that it came in at the buyers expense anywhere in the US. So if you know anyone who is looking for a raw K1 frameset thats in great condition pm me.

Bike frameset is sold and new Race ID frameset ordered!

 

[wavekiter]

Wondering about dropper post lengths. Currently I’m right at 6’1” inseam 34-35”. What size dropper is everyone running there builds? Got a K3 on order.

I have 34'' inseam, riding a K2.
Went for the Revive 213 -- works perfectly.

 

[Jay29er]

What option should I go with as far as shipping to US?

 

[BigG]

I went with free shipping and it was sent with DHL express. Had to upload customs documents and DOT form. it was not hard but a bit frustrating. Payed ~$190 in customs processing/fees. Then I requested vacation hold yet DHL attempted delivery today, while I’m not home.
Back in 2019 I used EMS/USPS and it was a breeze, no customs issues, less than a week en route, but it was not an e-bike ofc.

 

[Jay29er]

Just offering regular shipping or DHL now. Trying to understand my best option. DHL is twice as expensive but if it less headache then might go that route.

 

[BigG]

There was a discussion of shipping methods couple pages back. I think ems/usps/regular is less hassle unlike dhle, but if your shipment gets stopped at customs it may be more. Basically there a good chance regular shipping method goes without customs processing and it’s what happens a lot. With dhle you will have to clear customs, upload forms and your ssn card or top portion of 1040 and sign power of attorney with dhle.

 

[Jay29er]

There was a discussion of shipping methods couple pages back. I think ems/usps/regular is less hassle unlike dhle, but if your shipment gets stopped at customs it may be more. Basically there a good chance regular shipping method goes without customs processing and it’s what happens a lot. With dhle you will have to clear customs, upload forms and your ssn card or top portion of 1040 and sign power of attorney with dhle.

Thank you both for your help. Gonna stick with regular.

 

[BigG]

Finally building up my Voima, still couple minor bits missing but it’s coming together nicely.
While my voima is 2022 model in docs, I got updated rear swing arm with adapter-style brake mount, like on new ID models. Also holes in this mount are a bit too shallow and I need shorter bolts for my brake setup (hope h adapter + 220 disk).
Idk if my seat-post clamp is new or not.

 

[CliffP]

Interesting bike. Reminds me of a 450 MX steed

 

[Onetime]

Interesting bike. Reminds me of a 450 MX steed

Best ebike made IMO.

 

[BigG]

Done with initial build-up, what remains is some fitting and tuning here and there.
This is size K4 (doesn’t look like it right?), with 213mm dropper, 46mm riser bars.
Seatpost is at maximum insertion depth, and with 170mm cranks is just perfect for my ~36” inseam.

No riding impressions yet as I’ve caught covid and still recovering, can’t wait to ride her properly as soon as possible.

 

[Murphius]

The Voima checks so many boxes, I’m just a little concerned about weight. Will you guys please share full build weight and general info on your build?

 

[Onetime]

The Voima checks so many boxes, I’m just a little concerned about weight. Will you guys please share full build weight and general info on your build?

Weight isn’t an issue and they can be anywhere between 50 and 56lbs depending on the build. Mine was 50.8lbs with a 40 on it, so it would have been even lighter with a single crown, but mine was definitely on the light end of builds. I’ve since sold it and ordered the new “Voima Race ID frameset” which will be lighter than the last one when it’s built.

 

[jbrown15]

Weight isn’t an issue and they can be anywhere between 50 and 56lbs depending on the build. Mine was 50.8lbs with a 40 on it, so it would have been even lighter with a single crown, but mine was definitely on the light end of builds. I’ve since sold it and ordered the new “Voima Race ID frameset” which will be lighter than the last one when it’s built.

The weight you were able to get your bike down too was super impressive, but also a little deceiving.....lol
You're running EXO casing tires on a full DH ebike....lol

If you put the exact same size times on your bike in even just double down casings the weight would jump up to 52lbs and your pedals are crazy light. If you put flats that's another 1/2lb of weight. So that would put the weight at 52.5lbs.

Certainly not trying to say anything negative about your bike because it's awesome but that doesn't tell the whole story....lol

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Getting mine soon - going to probably go for the K2 190cm tall. But the wheelbase is still longer than my Kenevo S4.

 

[irie]

The weight you were able to get your bike down too was super impressive, but also a little deceiving.....lol
You're running EXO casing tires on a full DH ebike....lol

If you put the exact same size times on your bike in even just double down casings the weight would jump up to 52lbs and your pedals are crazy light. If you put flats that's another 1/2lb of weight. So that would put the weight at 52.5lbs.

Certainly not trying to say anything negative about your bike because it's awesome but that doesn't tell the whole story....lol

At a guess @Onetime said "mine was definitely on the light end of builds" for a reason.

 

[BigG]

Getting mine soon - going to probably go for the K2 190cm tall. But the wheelbase is still longer than my Kenevo S4.

Why K2 if you don’t mind answering? Just to get that agile feeling?
I’m ~196 myself, and I’m so glad I went K4, had thoughts going K3 initially.
My first proper fitting bike is Pole Machine which has similar reach(535) to K4 Voima and it was a true revelation on how the bike should really fit. I simply was riding undersized bikes for decade and having my ass behind rear hub or even wheel itself was not unusual sight.
I do have short-ish inseam and longish torso+arms though.

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Just to get that agile feeling?

I do like long bikes for sure, but I find that as long as the geo works, I can ride a shorter size as long as its slack / stable enough. And yes, the more agile the better, but partnered with the long travel and 63.5 HA I think it'll work (I hope!!)

My Rail is 486mm (ish) of reach in size L with the 170mm fork, the Kenevo must be around 490mm, and the Pole at 480 is on the smaller size, but I can always add a +5mm reach adjust to bring it to a similar level to my Rail / Kenevo.

 

[Redders473]

Leigh johnson rides a K2 and he's 6 foot odd and he's rapid. Richie rude 6,1 rides a medium.

 

[BigG]

Did some search in metric units (while I’m from US I headdesk at height measurement used here, especially confused by mixing inches and decimal feet).

Richie is 182cm, that’s borderline m/l, so I can see it working for him on smaller frame.
Leigh is 187cm, so K2 choice is a bit surprising for us mere mortals.
190cm and K2 still more surprising to me personally, but I understand how that happens. Just was curious on hearing reasoning.

 

[dobbyhasfriends]

Did some search in metric units (while I’m from US I headdesk at height measurement used here, especially confused by mixing inches and decimal feet).

Richie is 182cm, that’s borderline m/l, so I can see it working for him on smaller frame.
Leigh is 187cm, so K2 choice is a bit surprising for us mere mortals.
190cm and K2 still more surprising to me personally, but I understand how that happens. Just was curious on hearing reasoning.

yea its surprising that @Rob Rides EMTB is going K2 !!!!
I am 186cm and wouldnt dream of getting a K2 looking at those charts
is it something specific to that bike that means mere mortals can get away with it ?

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

yea its surprising that @Rob Rides EMTB is going K2 !!!!
I am 186cm and wouldnt dream of getting a K2 looking at those charts
is it something specific to that bike that means mere mortals can get away with it ?

4 of my recent bikes that I have ridden. K2 voima still has longer wheelbase than them all, stack is high, its slacker than them all. I might just have to put a +5mm reach adjust to get 485mm reach, 50mm rise bars and +5mm rise stem.

There's a few things that can be done to bring it a bit closer. But as always, everything size / geo related, there's always compromises other areas!

(plus a K2 will be a bit lighter than K3!)

I might despise it, and i will let you know if I do!!

 

[dobbyhasfriends]

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4 of my recent bikes that I have ridden. K2 voima still has longer wheelbase than them all, stack is high, its slacker than them all. I might just have to put a +5mm reach adjust to get 485mm reach, 50mm rise bars and +5mm rise stem.

There's a few things that can be done to bring it a bit closer. But as always, everything size / geo related, there's always compromises other areas!

(plus a K2 will be a bit lighter than K3!)

I might despise it, and i will let you know if I do!!

makes sense, my first Levo was too long for me sitting down with a 480 reach (XL) but the size L is a little too short, its more to do with the seat angle of the XL bike IMO, I couldnt ride it sitting but was perfect standing, I also liked the longer wheelbase of the XL.
look forward to your review, if you get on with the K2 when I almost certainly would.

 

[Onetime]

The weight you were able to get your bike down too was super impressive, but also a little deceiving.....lol
You're running EXO casing tires on a full DH ebike....lol

If you put the exact same size times on your bike in even just double down casings the weight would jump up to 52lbs and your pedals are crazy light. If you put flats that's another 1/2lb of weight. So that would put the weight at 52.5lbs.

Certainly not trying to say anything negative about your bike because it's awesome but that doesn't tell the whole story....lol

And I rode that same Voima on my local black DH trails and black bike park trails without any durability issues. DH is my thing, I like to bomb DH as fast as I can, (for an old geezer). I just happen to be pretty smooth and easy on my wheels so I don’t need DH casings or inserts. I was just pointing out that the Voima can be built lighter. As for the pedals, mine are super light, but they’re also very durable and I’ve been running those pedals on all of my bikes for several years with no issues. I intentionally build up all of my bikes as light as I possbile, while still being durable and reliable for me. That may not be possible for some riders, but it is for me so that’s how I roll.