Pole Voima 190mm Travel EMTB

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Here's one for the moderators, would it be an idea to split this thread and have a separate thread for sizing?
Is there an assumption that the moderators need something to do ? Just quickly reading through 24 pages and 700 posts and picking out and copying/duplicating and editing where necessary the size related posts ?

Should we have one thread ? Or do we need multiple ones ? We don't want to start this and then 700 posts into the sizing thread and someone says we should have different ones for the different colours because that makes a difference.
 

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Is there an assumption that the moderators need something to do ? Just quickly reading through 24 pages and 700 posts and picking out and copying/duplicating and editing where necessary the size related posts ?

Should we have one thread ? Or do we need multiple ones ? We don't want to start this and then 700 posts into the sizing thread and someone says we should have different ones for the different colours because that makes a difference.
Soz, I know your busy, forget I said it.
But now you've raised a valid and important question, what colour is best??
 
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Is there an assumption that the moderators need something to do ?
Now that Bambam isn't around, you must have a lot of time on your hands ?

I'd suggest :

The Official Pole sizing thread ?

My 6 year old wants a Pole, Why don't Pole make a K -2 Frame, I saw Leo use a rubber hammer can I do the same to make my Pole smaller ?

I want a K2 Pole because it's the only one named after a mountain since K1/3/4/5 were re-named Masherbrum, Broad Peak, Gasherbrum 2 and Gasherbrum 1

The Geo Worshippers Pole Sizing Thread

I want my Pole to feel exactly like my X/Y/Z Sizing Thread

Paris's "What's right for me is right for you" but I'm not actually sure what's right for me ... Pole Sizing Thread.

What size Pole should you buy if you don't actually want to buy a Pole ?
 

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The Voima is looking good with a Gates Belt Drive and a Kindernay VII Gearhub

(Yes it’s Photoshopped)
 
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I've going riding in Spain on the first week of June, hoping to be in the Voima 🤞
 

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Following @Paul Mac's request, sizing relevant posts have been moved/copied to a new Voima Sizing Thread.

 

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K3 ordered and incoming, now for the important questions:

Can decals / stickers be removed, or are they under the clear coat?

Really liking the more subtle look of @Rob Rides EMTB new Voima.
Black POLE decals on my storm grey Voima are applied on top of factory protective film. I can feel the edge with my fingernail, it’s certainly on top of the film, not under.

Badges are also applied on top. Each badge has a thin film on it’s own, the kind you want to peel of asap.
 

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Black POLE decals on my storm grey Voima are applied on top of factory protective film. I can feel the edge with my fingernail, it’s certainly on top of the film, not under.

Badges are also applied on top. Each badge has a thin film on it’s own, the kind you want to peel of asap.
Interesting- I thought they were under the protective stickers. My mistake 👍
 

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Or If you get raw with no protective film, then you can take off the black Pole decals no problem
 

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You can get them off with film too, so it works both ways.
Idk, maybe pole used to apply those under film before, mine are thick, textured precisely cut letters with no backdrop applied on top. I think a warm-up with a hairdryer and they will come off easily.
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You can get them off with film too, so it works both ways.
Idk, maybe pole used to apply those under film before, mine are thick, textured precisely cut letters with no backdrop applied on top. I think a warm-up with a hairdryer and they will come off easily.
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Perfect. Going to replace the logos with pink ones

My wife wanted an ebike so she can join me on mellow rides. I thought she would do best on something sized to ‘share’ with 190mm of travel. It is her bike after all.
 
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It might be obsolete now, but it's finally done! :love:

Frame - Pole Voima, K4, Storm Grey, race axles
Shock - EXT E-Storia
Spring - EXT Superlight V2 600lb
Fork - Fox 49 (2019) with Fox 40 (2021) lowers, Vorsprung Secus, ODI fork bumpers, Slik Graphics decals
Headset - Works Components reach adjust +5mm
Dropper seatpost - OneUp Components V2 210mm
Dropper post lever - Wolf Tooth ReMote
Saddle - Chromag Trailmaster DT
Bars - Enve M9, 50mm rise
Stem - Chromag Director 47mm
Grips - Sensus Meaty Paws
Cranks - Hope E-Bike, standard offset, 165mm
Chainring - Rotor e-MTB ring 32T
Pedals - Chromag Dagga
Derailleur - Box One Prime 9 X-Wide
Shifter - Box One Prime 9 Single Shift
Chain - Box One Prime 9 DLC
Cables - Box One Shift Cable & Housing Kit
Cassette - Box Two Prime 9 12-50 E-Bike
Brakes - Magura MT7 HC
Discs - Magura MDR-P 220mm front, 203mm rear
Hubs - Onyx Classic, 32H
Rims - We Are One Outlier
Spokes - Sapim CX-Ray
Front tyre - WTB Vigilante TCS Tough/High Grip E25 29” x 2.6”
Rear tyre - WTB Trail Boss TCS Tough/Fast Rolling E25 29” x 2.6”
Inserts - Rimpact EDH
Weight - 60lb/27.2lb


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Anyone seen or got any videos of Voima's being sent off some decent stuff? riding some rediculous chunk? I've only seen easy stuff on video's.
 

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I was really was looking at the Pole, it reminds me of my old mountain cycle. Unfortunately for those of us that are the human version of a corgi, the bike is a non starter. That top tube really needs a bend in it to make room for the boys in the smaller sizes. Ended up getting a Kenevo, 180mm travel and dealer support FTW. Rob, you ever talk to the mad scientist at Pole, remind them that not everyone have meter long inseams.
 

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I was really was looking at the Pole, it reminds me of my old mountain cycle. Unfortunately for those of us that are the human version of a corgi, the bike is a non starter. That top tube really needs a bend in it to make room for the boys in the smaller sizes. Ended up getting a Kenevo, 180mm travel and dealer support FTW. Rob, you ever talk to the mad scientist at Pole, remind them that not everyone have meter long inseams.
What are ya on about?

K1 Voima has smaller dimensions the S1 Kenevo?

Seat tube is 40mm shorter TT is 20 shorter, reach only 5mm longer........

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What are ya on about?

K1 Voima has smaller dimensions the S1 Kenevo?

Seat tube is 40mm shorter TT is 20 shorter, reach only 5mm longer........

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Stand over….. I have a 28 inch inseam. The small Pole has stand over is like 34 inches mid top tube on the small. People with long legs don’t think about these things but smash your man parts on the top tube a couple time and you pay attention. I under stand that it’s hard to put numbers like 190 mm travel fork and 29 inch wheels and the need for a low stand over. I bought a s3 Kenevo with a 475 reach because I am all torso and no legs. If you look at a Kenevo frame, that bent top tube makes the bike work. Just saying….
 

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Stand over….. I have a 28 inch inseam. The small Pole has stand over is like 34 inches mid top tube on the small. People with long legs don’t think about these things but smash your man parts on the top tube a couple time and you pay attention. I under stand that it’s hard to put numbers like 190 mm travel fork and 29 inch wheels and the need for a low stand over. I bought a s3 Kenevo with a 475 reach because I am all torso and no legs. If you look at a Kenevo frame, that bent top tube makes the bike work. Just saying….

I cant see any bent top tube. But 27.5" compared to 29", 190mm compared to 180mm 14mm BB drop compared to 0 bb drop. Also 140 compared to 125 Head tube.

Not much can be done to get it lower other then slap some 27.5's on there. The pole TT is equally as sloping if not more than the kenevo. It's just more bike, more travel, more more more......




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I was really was looking at the Pole, it reminds me of my old mountain cycle. Unfortunately for those of us that are the human version of a corgi, the bike is a non starter. That top tube really needs a bend in it to make room for the boys in the smaller sizes. Ended up getting a Kenevo, 180mm travel and dealer support FTW. Rob, you ever talk to the mad scientist at Pole, remind them that not everyone have meter long inseams.
Moving the seat tube / top tube junction down would visually align the angle with the seat stays, which would be a solid aesthetic improvement. That said, they’d need to add material to stiffen the resulting seat mast (see WR1 Arrival), which would add some weight. Forward shock mount would need to relocate and water bottle fit would get iffy.

A compromise might be something like the current Enduro with a seat mast nub that’s not long enough to need reinforcement.

I see what they are going for though with the current design - you can’t really argue with the structural efficiency of what they chose. But it does create a higher stand over.
 

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Stand over….. I have a 28 inch inseam. The small Pole has stand over is like 34 inches mid top tube on the small. People with long legs don’t think about these things but smash your man parts on the top tube a couple time and you pay attention. I under stand that it’s hard to put numbers like 190 mm travel fork and 29 inch wheels and the need for a low stand over. I bought a s3 Kenevo with a 475 reach because I am all torso and no legs. If you look at a Kenevo frame, that bent top tube makes the bike work. Just saying….
I also have a 28” inseam and the K1 Voima was perfect for me. It had a lower top tube than any other bike I’ve owned. Granted, I did run 27.5 x 2.8 front and rear but with a 40 up front. I could easily stand up over the top tube and had no ball squash and my balls are ginormous. 😎👍🏼
 

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I cant see any bent top tube. But 27.5" compared to 29", 190mm compared to 180mm 14mm BB drop compared to 0 bb drop. Also 140 compared to 125 Head tube.

Not much can be done to get it lower other then slap some 27.5's on there. The pole TT is equally as sloping if not more than the kenevo. It's just more bike, more travel, more more more......




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You are right, I was thinking more than writing. The Kenevo is 27.5 bike so it does not have a bent top tube BUT, The Levo sl is an all 29er e bike and it does have a bent top tube. There is a reason Pole does not list their stand over, its huge on the small.
 

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