Pole Voima 190mm Travel EMTB

Hi all.

Gutted about Pole.
The bike is awesome.

Could do with some advise if possible.
Just doing a frame bearing change.

Done the axles and all good.

Does anyone know how to remove the two bearings pressed into the swing arm linkage. can’t access anything on pole website. Is there a special tool or has anyone already done it successfully
 
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Nathan79 said:
Hi all.

Gutted about Pole.
The bike is awesome.

Could do with some advise if possible.
Just doing a frame bearing change.

Done the axles and all good.

Does anyone know how to remove the two bearings pressed into the swing arm linkage. can’t access anything on pole website. Is there a special tool or has anyone already done it successfully
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Lost of stuff on you tube.

 
Plummet said:
Lost of stuff on you tube.

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Thanks.
Ive watched all those. Ive already changed axel bearings. It’s straight forward.

I’m talking about the link arms that connect swing arm to axels. X4. Each has a double bearing pressed in. Simple to install - there are videos for that. But nothing for how to remove. Seems it would be very easy to damage link arms to me.
 
Nathan79 said:
Thanks.
Ive watched all those. Ive already changed axel bearings. It’s straight forward.

I’m talking about the link arms that connect swing arm to axels. X4. Each has a double bearing pressed in. Simple to install - there are videos for that. But nothing for how to remove. Seems it would be very easy to damage link arms to me.
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If you are not already on the pole riders facebook group. Join up and ask the same question. I think the linkages have a step in middle and need to pulled with a blind bearing puller. Or tapped out with a punch from the inside out.

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Ah. Glad you showed that pic.
Could have done some damage there.
I have blind pullers - just trying to think how to hold the link arm to support it without interfering with the bearing. There’s not much land to support on.

Thanks for help.
 
Are pole collapsing their Facebook group? I've been kicked out, I didn't even slag off their shonky engineering or customer service.
Oh well, it's not like I'm ever going to try to buy one again.
 
cozzy said:
Are pole collapsing their Facebook group? I've been kicked out, I didn't even slag off their shonky engineering or customer service.
Oh well, it's not like I'm ever going to try to buy one again.
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I just logged on, still appears to be up and running.
 
cozzy said:
Are pole collapsing their Facebook group? I've been kicked out, I didn't even slag off their shonky engineering or customer service.
Oh well, it's not like I'm ever going to try to buy one again.
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No, it’s still up. Probably just cleaning out non owners who are negative about the brand. Especially when they’re looking for potential buyers to save them. Why go on there anyway if you don’t own one or intend to own one?
 
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No, it’s still up. Probably just cleaning out non owners who are negative about the brand. Especially when they’re looking for potential buyers to save them. Why go on there anyway if you don’t own one or intend to own one?
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Because I ordered one back in November and was extremely fortunate to get a refund 2 weeks before they went bankrupt. Should I have voluntarily left at this point?

Plenty of unlucky owners who are now negative about the brand as their flimsy swingarms crack so they will be kicking a lot more out if they dare bring it up.
 
where does the swingarm crack to keep an eye on it. is that something that can be welded?

Also, here is a pic from the coast of Norway, really enjoying the bike and need to keep it alive for as long as possible now and be extra aware.

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Ridelow said:
where does the swingarm crack to keep an eye on it. is that something that can be welded?

Also, here is a pic from the coast of Norway, really enjoying the bike and need to keep it alive for as long as possible now and be extra aware.

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Crack starts in the recess where swingarm meets the lower links.

Rear will start to feel soft and flexy side-to-side, and shifting might get noisy / difficult when climbing steep sections due to the flex affecting chain alignment.
 
Blownoutrides said:
Rear will start to feel soft and flexy side-to-side, and shifting might get noisy / difficult when climbing steep sections due to the flex affecting chain alignment.
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That happened to me this week. I was even getting rotor rub cornering. Nervously I check the swing arms. Cant see anything. Take the wheel out to have a closer look...... Boom loose axle. Tightened it up and yeha, no cracks for me yet and back to stiff. But did have a cold sweat for a while while checking.

I do ride hard. But I am mechanically sympathetic. I might be hitting big jumps/drops/ double black sillyness, but I rarely slam hard or run short/long and generally ride smooth and precise. Plus at 80km fully kitted I'm not the heaviest dude on a voima!

I am now reluctant to fully send the really silly new lines on a collectors item though. Which sometimes defeats the point of having a E-DH bike!....
 
So with the Bosch Performance upgrade 2.0 that includes the CX4 apparently.


(Nice voiceover @Rob Rides EMTB)

The release notes say:

To use the performance upgrade 2.0, the following requirements must be met:

2. The eBike manufacturer has approved the performance upgrade 2.0 for your eBike.

In the eBike Flow app, you can then only set the maximum values that the eBike manufacturer has specified for your eBike. Even if your drive unit is basically supported, the manufacturer may limit or refrain from approving the upgrade for your eBike.

It is at the eBike manufacturer's discretion whether or not to approve it at a later date. Therefore, check availability regularly in the eBike Flow app or contact the manufacturer of your eBike directly if you have any questions.

Is there a way to enable this? I haven’t seen Leo on here in a while though
 
theklaw said:
So with the Bosch Performance upgrade 2.0 that includes the CX4 apparently.


(Nice voiceover @Rob Rides EMTB)

The release notes say:

To use the performance upgrade 2.0, the following requirements must be met:

2. The eBike manufacturer has approved the performance upgrade 2.0 for your eBike.

In the eBike Flow app, you can then only set the maximum values that the eBike manufacturer has specified for your eBike. Even if your drive unit is basically supported, the manufacturer may limit or refrain from approving the upgrade for your eBike.

It is at the eBike manufacturer's discretion whether or not to approve it at a later date. Therefore, check availability regularly in the eBike Flow app or contact the manufacturer of your eBike directly if you have any questions.

Is there a way to enable this? I haven’t seen Leo on here in a while though
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Edit: I moved my reply to the firmware update thread since it's related to the motor more broadly than just to Pole.
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Post in thread '120 Nm update for the Bosch CX and CX Race Announced'

Question for the CX4 crowd: without a watt or NM increase, what exactly is the 'increase assistance to 600%' doing? Isn't it just providing more assistance output for a lower given rider input?

Looks like the assistance used to be 400% for Gen4. So since the total wattage is still 600W, doesn't it simply mean a rider before would have had to input 150W to the cranks to access 400% assistance or 600W, where now they'll only have to put in 100W to access the same 600W motor power?
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megabobra said:
That's interesting, first I'd seen it referring to the Gen4 CX models. But so without a watt or NM increase, what exactly is the 'increase assistance to 600%' doing? Isn't it just providing more assistance output for a lower given rider input?

Looks like the assistance used to be 400% for Gen4. So since the total wattage is still 600W, doesn't it simply mean a rider before would have had to input 150W to the cranks to access 400% assistance or 600W, where now they'll only have to put in 100W to access the same 600W motor power?
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megabobra said:
Edit: I moved my reply to the firmware update thread since it's related to the motor more broadly than just to Pole.
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Post in thread '120 Nm update for the Bosch CX and CX Race Announced'

Question for the CX4 crowd: without a watt or NM increase, what exactly is the 'increase assistance to 600%' doing? Isn't it just providing more assistance output for a lower given rider input?

Looks like the assistance used to be 400% for Gen4. So since the total wattage is still 600W, doesn't it simply mean a rider before would have had to input 150W to the cranks to access 400% assistance or 600W, where now they'll only have to put in 100W to access the same 600W motor power?
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I have the Gen 1 Voima which is the CX4 BDU3740

I think you’re right. The motor can give close to full output from less effort, but the same 85 Nm / 600 W ceiling still applies.
 
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