Avinox SRAM AXS Motor power Cable (M1/M2 Variants)

[Zimmerframe]

Interesting stuff
It would be good to see the original chart as some of the pixels are a bit blurry and it may be better in the original !?
Strange to find the chargers are shown as being different in more ways than just the plug-connector

Avinov 582W/I68W Charger (Round Connector)

Avinex 508W/188W Chorger (Square Connector)

Accessories Page (Amflow) both are 508W/168W

New Battery Shown - RS500---RS800/FS600?
(Must be RS600---RS800/RS600)

Above - Same image labeled RS800---FP700/FS800/FS600
(Must be RS600---FP700/FS800/FS600)

Some pixels may have gone astray !?

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Hence my wish for the original
Cheers All

Yup, it's far from perfect !! I think the RS500 is the RS600 with pixel blur !! I'll clean it all up later when I enter my next phase of boredom.

And yes, it's interesting the fixed and removable batteries have different chargers - but we saw the different ports on release day :

Post in thread 'Avinox launch 1500w M2S motor and cheaper M2 motor'

Apr 9, 2026

Battery shapes and connectors :

• Zimmerframe

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[Petrex]

Now in your White version (Before Upgrades)

We have Buffery, Buttery, Bottery and Roand !
Maybe more - Definitely some pixel spreading/AI stuff going on !?!

Like your upgrades too

 

[action99]

Here the orginal pic

from the sea otter thread

 

[Petrex]

Makes more sense RS600

Pixel Drift !

Great diagram - Wish they would let it into the wild !

Cheers
While I wait for your next boredom inspired creation ...

 

[Astro66]

Yes

So, where does the original master chart come from @Astro66 / @Zimmerframe

Please

This is the original photo put in the Sea Otter thread. No AI performed.

 

[Astro66]

Oh well. Beaten to it.

 

[Petrex]

Thanks. All.
Not keeping up with the sea otter thread

Same chargers - Different connectors.

RS600 compatible with both systems.

Now they just need a more sensible size, say RS400 as a more fitting RX.

 

[Zimmerframe]

Now in your White version (Before Upgrades)

We have Buffery, Buttery, Bottery and Roand !
Maybe more - Definitely some pixel spreading/AI stuff going on !?!

Like your upgrades too

Oops thanks. Yes, was lazy and used AI which normally does some weird things. Have edited it manually now so it's a bit clearer !

 

[Petrex]

@Zimmerframe

To be fair the AI did a pretty good job of squaring it up and getting the lighting better.

Plus like your future upgrades chart
and Buffery ....

 

[Hero Dirt Slayer]

Has anyone noticed that the Avinox remote control customisation options for the right hand buttons now includes "upshift" and "downshift", alongside all the other stuff like screen changes and HRM control.

Perhaps the cable change is somehow linked to being able to control AXS derailleurs from the Avinox buttons? Perhaps two wires are for comms to tell the derailleur to change?

Id be happy either way, control avinox modes with AXS pods, or control AXS derailleur with avinox remote.

 

[Astro66]

Has anyone noticed that the Avinox remote control customisation options for the right hand buttons now includes "upshift" and "downshift", alongside all the other stuff like screen changes and HRM control.

Perhaps the cable change is somehow linked to being able to control AXS derailleurs from the Avinox buttons? Perhaps two wires are for comms to tell the derailleur to change?

Id be happy either way, control avinox modes with AXS pods, or control AXS derailleur with avinox remote.

The battery unit part of the cable, is just a voltage converter. It only has 2 wires going in. Now it's possible to pass data on those power cables. That's what Shimano does. But I cannot see how you can connect any more cables through the battery unit. It's only going to have a positive and negative wire.

 

[sethimus]

Has anyone noticed that the Avinox remote control customisation options for the right hand buttons now includes "upshift" and "downshift", alongside all the other stuff like screen changes and HRM control.

Perhaps the cable change is somehow linked to being able to control AXS derailleurs from the Avinox buttons? Perhaps two wires are for comms to tell the derailleur to change?

Id be happy either way, control avinox modes with AXS pods, or control AXS derailleur with avinox remote.

that would need to be on srams wireless protocol. afaik not available to 3rd parties. the only way currently for 3rd party controllers is via blibs

 

[Astro66]

Has anyone noticed that the Avinox remote control customisation options for the right hand buttons now includes "upshift" and "downshift", alongside all the other stuff like screen changes and HRM control.

Is that on an M1 motor ? Mine doesn't have that.

 

[Hero Dirt Slayer]

Is that on an M1 motor ? Mine doesn't have that.

No I have the M2S.
Under "Customize Controls"
Select the circle or two squares.

Thoughts on what this could mean?

 

[sethimus]

No I have the M2S.
Under "Customize Controls"
Select the circle or two squares.

Thoughts on what this could mean?

View attachment 182168

maybe trp? their system is now also supported

TRP cycling | E.A.S.I. A12 E Bike Shifting system with Bosch

The TRP E.A.S.I. A12 electronic drivetrain, crafted in collaboration with Bosch, brings the automatic e-bike shifting dream to life.

trpcycling.com

 

[ZR1]

Did the cable change from m1 to m2 to axs? Guess auto shifting is on the cards if the motor can change gear?

 

[sethimus]

Did the cable change from m1 to m2 to axs? Guess auto shifting is on the cards if the motor can change gear?

can you read?

 

[ZR1]

Not caught up with the many changes, I thought I read on here before that the cable was the same.

Is auto shifting confirmed?

 

[sethimus]

new connector, no autoshifting

 

[Petrex]

M1 - AXS : Coaxial Plug
M2/M2S - AXS : Micro 4 pin plug

 

[Astro66]

Ok. More information direct from Avinox. The new cable port on the motor, (Extension Port A) is now a CANbus port. On the M1 motor. It was only a 12V power supply.

The SMAM AXS derailleurs do not use the CANbus data cables. It only uses the 12V power supply. But if you plug a dropper in, it can use the CANbus and not trigger the Smoothshift.

You can also buy Y connectors so you can daisy chain multiple devices off the same Extension Port.

So yes. I'll just need to join the Red and Black wires on the Z405 light plug, and the SRAX AXS power cable. I will put a voltmeter on the red and black wires to confirm this.

What is interesting. Is that if you connect a transmission system that is CANbus compatible. You will be able to use the Avinox remotes to change gears. Hence why there is now that option on the M2S motor, but not on the M1 motor, as the M1 doesn't have the CANbus port coming out of the motor.

 

[Hero Dirt Slayer]

Ok. More information direct from Avinox. The new cable port on the motor, (Extension Port A) is now a CANbus port. On the M1 motor. It was only a 12V power supply.

The SMAM AXS derailleurs do not use the CANbus data cables. It only uses the 12V power supply. But if you plug a dropper in, it can use the CANbus and not trigger the Smoothshift.

You can also buy Y connectors so you can daisy chain multiple devices off the same Extension Port.

So yes. I'll just need to join the Red and Black wires on the Z405 light plug, and the SRAX AXS power cable. I will put a voltmeter on the red and black wires to confirm this.

What is interesting. Is that if you connect a transmission system that is CANbus compatible. You will be able to use the Avinox remotes to change gears. Hence why there is now that option on the M2S motor, but not on the M1 motor, as the M1 doesn't have the CANbus port coming out of the motor.

Good info!
What brands of gears are using Canbus?
Perhaps il ask Mr Google.

 

[Astro66]

What brands of gears are using Canbus?

Shimano

 

[Roughshod]

Interesting stuff about canbus and how Shimano uses it. Wonder why smoothshift is only via SRAM AXS?

Guess it could just require some software updates to widen the functionality to other brands?

 

[Astro66]

Wonder why smoothshift is only via SRAM AXS?

Smoothshift with SRAM doesn't use data. The motor just detects power being used by the derailleur, and indexes the chainring.

 

[Roughshod]

Smoothshift with SRAM doesn't use data. The motor just detects power being used by the derailleur, and indexes the chainring.

Exactly, so I'm wondering why it doesn't just work with any electric groupset that's hooked up to the Avinox battery.

 

[Zimmerframe]

Exactly, so I'm wondering why it doesn't just work with any electric groupset that's hooked up to the Avinox battery.

Has to be a group set where the power comes from the motor, but the controls are Bluetooth/wireless.

Think theres a trip out/due which may also be compatible. Think the Shimano system all works via the motor/canbus ?

 

[Petrex]

Did I hear Shimano were going to release a Di2 Linkglide 10/11 with Avinox compatible cable ?
Or just wishful thinking

 

[Astro66]

Exactly, so I'm wondering why it doesn't just work with any electric groupset that's hooked up to the Avinox battery.

It's possible it does. But the amount of current drawn when shifting may be monitored. So too much, or too little current, or the time period being different, may not trigger the chainwheel to spool.

The derailleur would always draw a little bit of power, to power the electronics. But driving the derailleurs stepper motor, would draw more current for a short interval. There is obviously a current detection circuit in the motor for this type derailleur movement, and this may not be consistent across all brands of derailleurs.

 

[TheKaiser]

Did I hear Shimano were going to release a Di2 Linkglide 10/11 with Avinox compatible cable ?
Or just wishful thinking

The new Cannondale Moterras have that setup with a Bosch CX motor. I would have initially thought the answer to your question would be NO, as Shimano has a spotty history when it comes to mixing and matching parts, and I'd thought they'd want people locked into their own motors. But, if they did it for Bosch, I don't see why they wouldn't do it for Avinox...unless they see Avinox as a future threat to other parts of their component business.