jakeu
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Sounds good, thank you very much for the reply!
Strive:ON problems
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jakeu
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The updated replacement latch arrived within two days (quite incredible). I've installed this 3D printed spacer as a precaution as well.
I've also added these two zip ties as someone suggested, since without them, I had some side-by-side battery movement going on:
With this new latch, the 3D printed spacer and the zip ties, I have ZERO battery movement and have yet to encounter any cut-offs. It's been riding incredible, and I'm now one happy Strive:ON owner again!
Here's a pic from today:
I've also added these two zip ties as someone suggested, since without them, I had some side-by-side battery movement going on:
With this new latch, the 3D printed spacer and the zip ties, I have ZERO battery movement and have yet to encounter any cut-offs. It's been riding incredible, and I'm now one happy Strive:ON owner again!
Here's a pic from today:
SEBA
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I just bought 2nd hand strive on ltd on canyon website , do you think I have to prépare myself to this latch issue or canyon check obviously this area on each their bike ?
Tieff
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You definitively will have the latch issue, sooner or later, depending on your riding style. So better be prepared for it. Even if Canyon checked your bike and maybe put one of the reinforced Bosch latches in, you will get issues. However, thanks to the extensive experience of the members here in the forum, there are now some effective countermeasures. The improvement of the reinforced latch as shown above, the zip-tie method, and the Cascade Components replacement latch made of aluminum. And definitely don't forget to check all the screws, including the upper battery holder in the down tube, and of course the famous @Mario Antony thread lock mod (see detailed description in one of Mario Antony's posts)!
SEBA
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how to check upper bolt ? do you need extra mega long screw driver ?!?
Tieff
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Haha
, please read the post from @Mario Antony.... It should be enough if you have slim and long forearms and can grip the upper battery holder with the contacts. The screws for loosening are on the outside of the down tube (the two silver screws at the top of the down tube that face to the bottom if the bike stands on it's wheels) . It's not the most pleasant job, but afterwards you can be sure that everything is secure. Because it's not just the latch that is responsible for the battery movement!Then you should take out the entire battery holder and apply threadlocker to all the screws and tighten them firmly. Then reinstall the whole thing. Don't forget to pull out the cover plates of the cable duct (this should be easy) so that you can take out the battery holder. And secure the three cables on each side with zip ties so that you can put them back into the same cable duct later.
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Mario Antony
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Mario Antony
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There are tools from Bosch.Haha
Then you should take out the entire battery holder and apply threadlocker to all the screws and tighten them firmly. Then reinstall the whole thing. Don't forget to pull out the cover plates of the cable duct (this should be easy) so that you can take out the battery holder. And secure the three cables on each side with zip ties so that you can put them back into the same cable duct later.
Doing this job, I noticed my left arm ain't slim enough, and I'm right hander.
If you're veternarian and used to have cows, this will be a peace of cake! Ehehehehhe
Happy rides, too all!
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Tieff
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With helpful I mean of course the hint to the Bosch tools, not the vet stuff... Now you've created this image in my mind and every time I reach into the battery compartment of my Strive:On I have to think of cows and where I put my hands...
not sure why Bosch would have a tool for the job......their system consists of rail that the battery slides into and the rail also holds the connector a the top and the clip for the battery clamp at the bottom. So no need to have to stick your arm up the downtube. The Strive does not use the Bosch Rail so I think any tool to hold the connector at the top would need to be an ingenious DIY job!!.................maybe a modified litter picker!
Tieff
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Yes, I had the same idea with that litter picker, let's test it out....
SEBA
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do you think there is the new or the old latch in a strive on ltd bought outled the 8th of august ? 
I heard a bosch rail in the newer 
any photos/informations about that ?!
what are the torx size for the 2 bolts to be loctited ?
is there other bolt to unscrew before reaching these 2 torx ?
if yes what are these bolt ? allen or torx ?
is 300mm screwdriver enough to reach these bolts ?
images I found on thread
I heard a bosch rail in the newer any photos/informations about that ?!what are the torx size for the 2 bolts to be loctited ?
is there other bolt to unscrew before reaching these 2 torx ?
if yes what are these bolt ? allen or torx ?
is 300mm screwdriver enough to reach these bolts ?
images I found on thread
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Tieff
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I honestly do not know if Canyon puts the new latch into their outlet bikes. At least I heard they put new batteries in the used bikes. In this case there is a good chance you will get a new latch too.
As far as I remember it is T25, but I'm not sure anymore, @Mario Antony, can you help?
There are in total 6 bolts at the upper battery bracket, please have a look here: 2024 Strive:ON (from the famous(!) @Mario Antony thread lock mod).
You cannot acces the screws number 1 in the Mario Antony post above, if you don't remove the entire upper battery bracket! Also I would not try to unscrew the two bolts you see from the open end of the downtube (just to put threadlocker on it). It is very unlikely that you will be able to put it back together properly afterwards, because you cannot (or at least hardly) see what you are doing. It is much better, as Mario Antony described, to remove the entire upper battery bracket and apply threadlocker to all(!) screws. Although this is obviously a lot more work, it is certainly the better method.
All the inner screws are torx!
I didn't measure it, but I don't think a 300mm screwdriver is long enough (the 750wh battery is already 480mm, without latch...). You have to take into account that you can still put your arm into the down tube, but then you won't be able to see what you're doing. And you should also be able to tighten the screws with a reasonable torque. I think it's really only possible to do this properly if you remove the entire upper battery bracket.
As far as I remember it is T25, but I'm not sure anymore, @Mario Antony, can you help?
There are in total 6 bolts at the upper battery bracket, please have a look here: 2024 Strive:ON (from the famous(!) @Mario Antony thread lock mod).
You cannot acces the screws number 1 in the Mario Antony post above, if you don't remove the entire upper battery bracket! Also I would not try to unscrew the two bolts you see from the open end of the downtube (just to put threadlocker on it). It is very unlikely that you will be able to put it back together properly afterwards, because you cannot (or at least hardly) see what you are doing. It is much better, as Mario Antony described, to remove the entire upper battery bracket and apply threadlocker to all(!) screws. Although this is obviously a lot more work, it is certainly the better method.
All the inner screws are torx!
I didn't measure it, but I don't think a 300mm screwdriver is long enough (the 750wh battery is already 480mm, without latch...). You have to take into account that you can still put your arm into the down tube, but then you won't be able to see what you're doing. And you should also be able to tighten the screws with a reasonable torque. I think it's really only possible to do this properly if you remove the entire upper battery bracket.
SEBA
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i do not understand how to remove the entire upper bracket ?
( the 2 bolts under the upper down tube ?! )
Tieff
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Yes, the two bolts you see from the outside! Number 3 in the Mario Antony picture...
SEBA
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Tieff
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yes, correct
SEBA
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OK these 2 bolts
but wonder how you but the upper bracket back , full arm can go inside without too much problem ? and you can hold the bracket temporarly to align 1st hole with 1st bolt ? easy task ?! any cables that are plugged and stop the upper bracket to fall ?
but wonder how you but the upper bracket back , full arm can go inside without too much problem ? and you can hold the bracket temporarly to align 1st hole with 1st bolt ? easy task ?! any cables that are plugged and stop the upper bracket to fall ?
Tieff
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On the Canyon web page you can find the exploded view of the Strive:On. They don't show the Bosch parts, but at least you can see where and how the upper battery bracket is mounted...
Tieff
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correct!
correct.
yes, the assembly is not easy! Please have a look above, that's why Mikerb came up with the idea of the litter picker...
SEBA
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exploded view is not well detailed indeed ...
i cannot see if there are some cable that retain the upper bracket
got a pic of global view of the upper bracket outside the frame ?
i cannot see if there are some cable that retain the upper bracket
got a pic of global view of the upper bracket outside the frame ?
Tieff
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I've no pic at hand now, but there are some in this forum or in the Strive:On forum.
As I said: they don't show the bosch parts on the exploded view.
The cables are in the cable channel that you can see under the battery. There are 6 cables (three on each side of the channel) from the motor side. Since the motor and the external charging socket are at the bottom, the cables from the upper battery bracket go down through the cable channel. (If you remove the battery bracket, you must also open the two covers of the cable channel first (simply pull it out upwards)). So you definitely can't lose the battery bracket in the down tube, because you can still pull it out again (carefully) using the cables. Also, the down tube isn't much deeper...
As I said: they don't show the bosch parts on the exploded view.
The cables are in the cable channel that you can see under the battery. There are 6 cables (three on each side of the channel) from the motor side. Since the motor and the external charging socket are at the bottom, the cables from the upper battery bracket go down through the cable channel. (If you remove the battery bracket, you must also open the two covers of the cable channel first (simply pull it out upwards)). So you definitely can't lose the battery bracket in the down tube, because you can still pull it out again (carefully) using the cables. Also, the down tube isn't much deeper...
SEBA
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ouch ..
with the cables mess it's easy to disassemble the upper bracket
but a pain in the ass to put it back especialy with all the cables and hold it aligned to at least one hole ...
SEBA
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got to slide these long plates to deliver the cable , maybe a touch of grease to put them back to slide them easy
Tieff
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Yes, as I said it's not the most pleasant work. You should take a day off and be able to work in peace. But it's possible. And once you've done it, you can be sure that everything is OK... and of course you will know your bike better than before
Tieff
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Yes, right for the cable covers, but be careful with the grease it should not be agressive to the cabels.
SEBA
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yep i know all my Shimano bike from every washer and bolt, but bosch eco system is mystery for me atm
Tieff
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The best reason to do this work, then you will know Bosch better...
SEBA
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i suppose i have to put back the upper bracket first and pray for align hole with bolt
then the plate will slide easier as my 2 hands will be free , one for taking the cables in place in the "rail" as flat as possible a'd the 2nd hand to slide it at the same time
then the plate will slide easier as my 2 hands will be free , one for taking the cables in place in the "rail" as flat as possible a'd the 2nd hand to slide it at the same time
