Thömus Oberrider (Avinox high-pivot)

Blownoutrides said:
Agree 100% with your last point. That is definitely happening.

But if rear end parts are the same and the only unique part is the front triangle for each size that moves the rear end attachment points further aft for each bigger size, then you don't need a reworked kinematic or additional molds.

Actual chainstays stay the same, but get moved further back away from BB via offset attachment points. Shock & links moving with them.

That is my understanding of how forbidden are doing it (their pedal bikes at least)
Click to expand...
Yeah, I can see how it can be done that way on certain suspension designs. However, even if you manage to design so the rear end parts stay the same you still have the kinematics issue because they all change in relation to the BB distance.

See how the bb stays the same and the high pivot roller moves back. Thats impacting kinematics right there!...





1772302362443.webp
 
⚡ EMTB Pro Go Pro — exclusive discounts & ad-free Peaty's 25% off & more · Ad-free browsing · Pro badge See the deals →
For me approaching 60 years old it is a moot point as I can no longer bend my knees enough to take advantage of a really low dropper
:)
 
Andrew.Terker said:
We just ordered one for my wife at our local Thömus dealer. Every bike is custom. All details are specified by the customer. Even just configuring the bike is a wonderful experience.
Click to expand...
How did you spec it? Enjoy it!
 
From what I understand about the Eightpins system:
ISPS integration: How the Eightpins dropper post works within the Frame

the seatpost tube is supplied very long, and then each user can shorten it according to their needs. However, it also seems to me that the seat tubes themselves are quite tall, probably to accommodate riders with a very, very high inseam.

Overall, I theoretically like the system a lot. But I would say that if, like me, you’re interested in an XL and you have a long torso and short legs, and you appreciate a dropper post with a lot of travel, the system becomes limiting. To allow for a lot of travel, they would need to provide two versions of the frame for the same size (same reach): one with a tall seat tube and another with a short seat tube.
 
Afaik one frame broke in this area, and then they reinforced the other frames for the testrides.
Problem should be fixed for the real release, but I would have an eye on that!
 
I contacted Thoemus as I was hugely interested in the oberrider. They are not importing them into the uk! They dis say I'd be more than welcome to come to Switzerland to buy one though😥
 
Andrew.Terker said:
We just ordered one for my wife at our local Thömus dealer. Every bike is custom. All details are specified by the customer. Even just configuring the bike is a wonderful experience.
Click to expand...
Very nice bike!! Do you have any info on the price (and weight) of the LT model?
 
Prices start at 5.5k and may go up to around 10-12k... You have to choose individual parts for everything. Wheels, suspension, dropper, bars, pedals, everything. The wheight will then also change with every part you choos. Minimum wheigt with lightest parts an 600wh batterie is around 19.2 kg if I remember correctly.
There should be an online configurator available soon, like it is for every other Thoemus bike.
 
I rode the Oberrider LT today for about 1.5 hours – the 29/29 LT version in size M with the 800 Wh battery, weighing around 23.5 kg, fitted with Albert Radial tires. Normally I ride a Levo SL 29/27.5, size S3, with a Lyrik / Vivid Ultimate setup, Magura 220 mm brakes, weighing 19.6 kg, also on Albert Radials.

First impression: the bike feels great. The Öhlins suspension is on the firmer side, but not uncomfortable at all. The setup was already quite close, although of course it was still a test bike.

Uphill, the power is insane – no surprise there. Shifting almost feels optional :D. I rode it on my home trails, so I know those sections very well.

The bike felt very stable, although not quite as agile as the Levo SL. The rear suspension worked almost unnoticed, which I’d say is a very good sign. Same for the high pivot: in corners and under braking, the bike stayed active and composed.

On my favourite trail (+100times ridden), my PB on the Levo SL is 1:07. In a direct back-to-back comparison, I did a 1:09 on the Oberrider, and overall I really liked it. With the right component choice, the Oberrider seems very versatile and capable of adapting to different needs – from a relatively lightweight build at around 20 kg to a full top-end enduro setup at around 24 kg.

I had never ridden a DJI-powered bike before, but I’ve owned a Levo Gen 2 and now a Levo SL, so I had a pretty good idea of what to expect. Still, I was surprised. I only rode it on trails and mostly in full blast mode, but honestly, the difference to the even higher support modes seems irrelevant to me. I’m 95 kg, and in full blast mode I used around 45% battery in one hour with 600 vertical metres. To be fair, I was also pretty cooked uphill – DJI really redefines uphill flow. The motor power feels very good and controllable. With just three crank rotations, you’re already at 25 km/h.

One downside I noticed is the battery swap. To change the battery, you have to remove the motor, so the idea of buying both the 600 Wh and 800 Wh battery combo loses a lot of appeal. And with no DJI range extender clearly on the horizon, that may remain a limitation.

For me, this is definitely a bike worth considering as a true 2-in-1 option:

With a lightweight build using the 600 Wh battery and something like a Fox 36 / Vivid Ultimate setup, you could end up right around 20.5 kg and still have enough range for a 2000 hm tour or 1.5 hours of full-blast riding at home.

Best of both worlds.

1774206065116.webp

1774206081868.webp

1774206089233.webp

1774206096445.webp

1774206105649.webp


1774204573483.webp


1774204589115.webp


1774204602295.webp


1774204712643.webp


1774204736087.webp
 
winters3 said:
I rode the Oberrider LT today for about 1.5 hours – the 29/29 LT version in size M with the 800 Wh battery, weighing around 23.5 kg, fitted with Albert Radial tires. Normally I ride a Levo SL 29/27.5, size S3, with a Lyrik / Vivid Ultimate setup, Magura 220 mm brakes, weighing 19.6 kg, also on Albert Radials.

First impression: the bike feels great. The Öhlins suspension is on the firmer side, but not uncomfortable at all. The setup was already quite close, although of course it was still a test bike.

Uphill, the power is insane – no surprise there. Shifting almost feels optional :D. I rode it on my home trails, so I know those sections very well.

The bike felt very stable, although not quite as agile as the Levo SL. The rear suspension worked almost unnoticed, which I’d say is a very good sign. Same for the high pivot: in corners and under braking, the bike stayed active and composed.

On my favourite trail (+100times ridden), my PB on the Levo SL is 1:07. In a direct back-to-back comparison, I did a 1:09 on the Oberrider, and overall I really liked it. With the right component choice, the Oberrider seems very versatile and capable of adapting to different needs – from a relatively lightweight build at around 20 kg to a full top-end enduro setup at around 24 kg.

I had never ridden a DJI-powered bike before, but I’ve owned a Levo Gen 2 and now a Levo SL, so I had a pretty good idea of what to expect. Still, I was surprised. I only rode it on trails and mostly in full blast mode, but honestly, the difference to the even higher support modes seems irrelevant to me. I’m 95 kg, and in full blast mode I used around 45% battery in one hour with 600 vertical metres. To be fair, I was also pretty cooked uphill – DJI really redefines uphill flow. The motor power feels very good and controllable. With just three crank rotations, you’re already at 25 km/h.

One downside I noticed is the battery swap. To change the battery, you have to remove the motor, so the idea of buying both the 600 Wh and 800 Wh battery combo loses a lot of appeal. And with no DJI range extender clearly on the horizon, that may remain a limitation.

For me, this is definitely a bike worth considering as a true 2-in-1 option:

With a lightweight build using the 600 Wh battery and something like a Fox 36 / Vivid Ultimate setup, you could end up right around 20.5 kg and still have enough range for a 2000 hm tour or 1.5 hours of full-blast riding at home.

Best of both worlds.

View attachment 180035
View attachment 180036
View attachment 180037
View attachment 180038
View attachment 180039

View attachment 180025

View attachment 180026

View attachment 180027

View attachment 180030

View attachment 180031
Click to expand...
Is that the new motor? It's got a heavy chamfer around the housing on the non drive side
 
TG73 said:
Looks like it's been leaked by Megamo.

Post in thread 'Avinox M2' https://www.emtbforums.com/threads/avinox-m2.44718/post-670336

I guess if it's your first ride you can't compare it to the old M1.

Did you notice any rattling when descending?
Click to expand...
I was riding with headphones 😎, but the trail was rough enough that any rattling would definitely have shown up.

To be honest, in your specific case the bike was dead silent. I’m pretty sensitive to that kind of noise, and I think you’d also feel something like that through the cranks. I even had to lift the bike over a fallen tree and dropped it quite hard onto the rear end—still no noise, no rattling, nothing.
 
Red Peekay said:
This just looks more well thought out with lots of options (I'm thinking how Swiss is that....). I'm really excited by this one. Had a Forbidden Druid Core on order, but the LBS moved it on as I'm not in country in Oz for 4 months (it arrived a couple of days before I left, but I couldn't pick up). They are trying to talk me into taking the next batch some time mid year (given Forbiddens track record on delivery, maybe mid next year!). TBH, this interests me more. The only downside is there are no dealers that I know of in Oz. Not sure if they would ship to Oz anyway.
I'll wait to see if the rumours about the Forbidden e-Dreadnought are true and jump on that.
Click to expand...
dealers for which?
 
winters3 said:
yes itßs the new one the guy from the shop tould me, but no specs
Click to expand...
What is with all the leaked M2 bike pics that there are no pics from the transmission side? Where there a bash guard on the bike? If so, how was it mounted?
 
MOG said:
Pretty sure the seat tube thing must be length to top of eightpins collar as it is more or less flush to the actual seat tube. So potentially a saving of at least 25mm over running a conventional dropper. Based on my current bike that means for me at almost 6 foot I could happily run the Eightpins with 205mm of drop.
Click to expand...
It all depends on the dropper really... With a 440mm seat tube, my OneUp dropper would put the seat rails at about 475mm, but the Eightpins will be 485mm as it has a very tall seat clamp. So for me this would actually be akin to having a 450mm seat tube, which is really the only reason for me not buying it, but it is a big reason.

I do like lots of ballsack clearance for bike parks, and I probably have short legs. On the Medium Oberrider, it looks like there would be over 300mm of uninterrupted seat tube, so plenty of scope to make it shorter.

This image shows OneUp, Eightpins, and Magura Vyron v3 droppers (cut off at seat rail height) on a 440mm seat tube...

Screenshot 2026-03-30 at 10.47.21.webp
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Keep reading
    Browse all

    Similar Threads

    Community Stats

    Since 2018
    668K
    Messages
    40,731
    Members
    Join 30,000+ Riders, it's free!
    Back
    Top