Kenevo SL Official 2022 Kenevo SL (KSL) Megathread!

Mcharza

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Do most KSL owners only use like 50-75 battery points per ride? That doesn’t get you very far.
In Finland I got 25 km per ride, normally 200-400 meters vertical. So I get three rides before have to charge. Yes I know, i’m living in flat land. Consumption is about 1 Wh per km.

In Alps I got 10,2 km and 1050 m vertical and then down, total km a little bit over 20, used about 80% battery. But it was very steep climg, 100m vertical per km.

To me it’s good enough.
 

George_yt

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Sep 11, 2021
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there’s likely problems with draining the external battery to the point that they’ll never consider it.

1) Right now, "shorten lifespan" mode already exists anyway, it's the "use extender first to point of heavy taper"
2) I advocate for changing that mode only to start proportionally charging from main battery at point right before the taper occurs, and delivery is always smooth, no taper occurs to mixed charge due to temporary dead zone. This would in NO way worsen that mode's impact on lifespan, so your argument on this incorrect.

Do you understand what adaptivity would do ? It would effectively switch from mode1 (extender only) to mode2 automatically, without user input, which is what everyone right now does.

But you had to build a strawman.

Surprise, this is already how other systems are doing it. Are other engineers dumber than Spec? No, Spec is just lazy to do feature updates.

Re Battery: 2000 KM on my KSL this year (maybe not enough, but I have toddler and spent equal KMs on pumptracks), almost always discharge to less than 10perc, then fully charge to 100, leave for days if must. Battery still at 100perc. health. Baby-sitting lithium batteries has become obssesive. Impossible to do any long-term damage to battery on gravity oriented bike, no one on KSL or LS runs 20K per year.
 
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Sid Duffman

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Aug 23, 2022
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San Jose, CA
Proud owner of a new KSL expert, and got my first ride in yesterday. Overall quite pleased with it. Having no idea what to expect from the battery, I spent a lot of time in eco mode. After 22 miles and 4500 ft vert (35km/1370m), still had 42% of battery remaining. So I put it in turbo mode for the 5 mile/1000ft fireroad slog back to the parking lot and that drained the battery to 9%.

As a long time fan of Shimano brakes, the Codes feel woefully underpowered. I might give it a few more rides, but will probably swap them out. Fork and shock needs some dialing in, but decided to swap the fork for the Manitou Mezzer that was on my other bike. I figure the Fox 38 performance elite probably has good resale value. The shock handled single hits well, but less impressive in chattery stuff.
 

Sid Duffman

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Aug 23, 2022
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For those who have gone the mullet route, did you do any other changes to tweak the geometry?

Playing around with the numbers, it seem like if I went to a 180mm fork, high bottom bracket and middle headtube angle, the BB height and head tube angle would be similar to the stock geo with 29er front/rear, 170mm fork, and low/slack settings.
 

George_yt

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For those who have gone the mullet route, did you do any other changes to tweak the geometry?

Playing around with the numbers, it seem like if I went to a 180mm fork, high bottom bracket and middle headtube angle, the BB height and head tube angle would be similar to the stock geo with 29er front/rear, 170mm fork, and low/slack settings.
You're correct.
I did Mullet, BB high (I think bigger benefit is shorter chainstay rather than the BB itself) and kept 170 ZEB on middle position.
That alone lowers the head angle to 63. So upping to 180 would you give you low/slack, but with additional slacker seat tube, possibly less anti-rise.
The bike feels very DH-worthy in this setup with 170 alone, mind the additional stack height even without rising the fork.
Fun fact: I put all the numbers into bike-stats and the bike was 99perc. identical to new mullet Santa Cruz Nomad :- ). Kinda confirming to me the mullet didn't affect anything negatively (mainly because the BB flip-chip shortens chainstays as well outside of lifting the BB up.)
 

elkefro

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Dec 19, 2022
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Porto
Hello,

Anyone with play on the upper link bolt? It turns but doesn't fix... Thanks
Kenevo SL

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MM5K

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Jan 24, 2022
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Bay Area
Has anyone actually seen their battery health drop? I have 67 charge cycles with my battery health still showing 100%, and I'm wondering if that's accurate.

Also, just got my first motor replacement after 1,450 miles. The internal sprag clutch (or whatever clutch system they use) stripped out on me. It'd be interesting to hear if that's happened to anyone else here, cause my shop said I was the first they've seen that happen to.
 

BikingBad

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Sep 6, 2022
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Has anyone actually seen their battery health drop? I have 67 charge cycles with my battery health still showing 100%, and I'm wondering if that's accurate.

Also, just got my first motor replacement after 1,450 miles. The internal sprag clutch (or whatever clutch system they use) stripped out on me. It'd be interesting to hear if that's happened to anyone else here, cause my shop said I was the first they've seen that happen to.
What were the signs/symptoms of stripped clutch?
 

lzrm00s

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Jan 21, 2022
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CA
This is going to be an oddly specific question, but does anyone know of a chainring for the Kenevo SL, that comes in a silver-ish color?
 
Dec 23, 2022
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20
Brisbane, Australia
Posting here as a proud new owner. I was very much on the fence between full power and a lightweight. Had test ridden a heap of full fat's in the last couple of weeks, but one quick test ride on the KSL at a dealer was all it took. When I came across a deal that was too good to ignore on a 22 KSL with Fox Factory 38's and a coil shock, the decision was made. I managed to sneak in a quick ride on Boxing day and wow. So stoked on the new ride. Cannot wait to get out on it again.
 

Mcharza

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Posting here as a proud new owner. I was very much on the fence between full power and a lightweight. Had test ridden a heap of full fat's in the last couple of weeks, but one quick test ride on the KSL at a dealer was all it took. When I came across a deal that was too good to ignore on a 22 KSL with Fox Factory 38's and a coil shock, the decision was made. I managed to sneak in a quick ride on Boxing day and wow. So stoked on the new ride. Cannot wait to get out on it again.
Great, right choice.
 

Olivier Clg

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Nov 15, 2021
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France
Hello, just a fact: this morning I did a 30 km ride with my KSL but I rode it with the motor off. Only the TCU was active in order to follow the parameters (distance, rpm, elevation, etc..). No mission control activated. Result : the battery lost 3% just for powering the TCU during the ride...
 

BikingBad

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Sep 6, 2022
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USA
Cassette came loose and chewed up what looks to be inside plastic piece of derailleur hanger? Anyone know what this part is? Is this part of the SRAM universal derailleur hanger or separate part?

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andronin

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Jul 3, 2022
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16
South Africa
Proud owner of a new KSL expert, and got my first ride in yesterday. Overall quite pleased with it. Having no idea what to expect from the battery, I spent a lot of time in eco mode. After 22 miles and 4500 ft vert (35km/1370m), still had 42% of battery remaining. So I put it in turbo mode for the 5 mile/1000ft fireroad slog back to the parking lot and that drained the battery to 9%.

As a long time fan of Shimano brakes, the Codes feel woefully underpowered. I might give it a few more rides, but will probably swap them out. Fork and shock needs some dialing in, but decided to swap the fork for the Manitou Mezzer that was on my other bike. I figure the Fox 38 performance elite probably has good resale value. The shock handled single hits well, but less impressive in chattery stuff.
As someone that was really unhappy with the Code’s I came across a suggestion to try thicker rotors. After installing the HS2 rotors (HS2 Rotor - RT-HS-2-A1 - SRAM) I am much happier. They do not have the “on/off” feel of My XT’s on my Stumpy but I think I actually prefer this now. Been running them for two months and not wanted to change brakes.
 

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I was idly playing around with the geo calculator on the Spesh website and spotted this;

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Mixed wheel setup? What's that all about then?
 

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Yeah, I get that, the question was ambiguous, there's just no mention of it anywhere else on the site.
 

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I've used the calculator before but can't remember if it's always said that or if it's a sign of things to come...
 

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