Forbidden DreadNought E

Plummet said:
Nah, nowhere near that. When its next out ill weigh it.

The additional adapter to fit a 400 is like 40 grams.

Of course there is standard mounting hardware, but all bikes have battery mounting hardware to some degree. So thats kinda moot.
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Right on, I’d be curious to hear the weight with mounts. Crestline certainly uses a better mounting solution than many Bosch bikes.
I’d considered doing one with my cx5 mondraker, but no off the shelf solutions, so wasn’t worth it to trade 200wh for 500g (weight of a 400wh in the mondraker with adapters is 2500g).

The Avinox batteries mount with just two 5g screws in the dread-e no need for end plates. Avinox got that right with the battery packaging.
 
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ntm95 said:
Right on, I’d be curious to hear the weight with mounts. Crestline certainly uses a better mounting solution than many Bosch bikes.
I’d considered doing one with my cx5 mondraker, but no off the shelf solutions, so wasn’t worth it to trade 200wh for 500g (weight of a 400wh in the mondraker with adapters is 2500g).

The Avinox batteries mount with just two 5g screws in the dread-e no need for end plates. Avinox got that right with the battery packaging.
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Plummet said:
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I actually discussed this with Plummet on the Crestline thread, but all in all, the lightest setup I can get on the crestline is about 50lbs with the 400wh, With the Dreadnought-e at 600wh battery, I can get it 2lbs lighter. I would gladly take a 400wh battery on an Avinox system to make it even lighter but such battery existed.

Although it's not all about the weight, it was the massive geometry shift on Forbidden bikes that made me pull the trigger. I tested the higher stack + reversed stem setup and completely changed the handling on the Crestline. I reckon with the lighter avinox setup along with that style of cockpit setup, it would put me really close to the feeling of a regular enduro/dh bike.
 
iJak said:
I actually discussed this with Plummet on the Crestline thread, but all in all, the lightest setup I can get on the crestline is about 50lbs with the 400wh, With the Dreadnought-e at 600wh battery, I can get it 2lbs lighter. I would gladly take a 400wh battery on an Avinox system to make it even lighter but such battery existed.

Although it's not all about the weight, it was the massive geometry shift on Forbidden bikes that made me pull the trigger. I tested the higher stack + reversed stem setup and completely changed the handling on the Crestline. I reckon with the lighter avinox setup along with that style of cockpit setup, it would put me really close to the feeling of a regular enduro/dh bike.
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I'm 47lb with the 400wh in. The bike feels fantastic with the light front end. I have no plans to upgrade anytime soon. i'll probably riding this out for another 2-3 years. We'll see what sort of tech crazyness has been released then. Hopefully a light weight and refined mgu so I can ditch the derailleur!
 
After all my sizing shenanigans (LBS adamant I'm a S4 at 6'1" and even double checked when they rang last week to notify me about possible landing dates here in Oz), I settled on a S3 based on everyone's feedback here.
Watching this interesting video, they argue everyone is oversized.
I did the calculations on 186cm at the minus RAD and it came out as 455.7 reach, which definitely rules out the S4. I'm definitely not a S2.
S3 it is. Now to get 2 ladders a test their theory!
Food for thought.

 
Red Peekay said:
After all my sizing shenanigans (LBS adamant I'm a S4 at 6'1" and even double checked when they rang last week to notify me about possible landing dates here in Oz), I settled on a S3 based on everyone's feedback here.
Watching this interesting video, they argue everyone is oversized.
I did the calculations on 186cm at the minus RAD and it came out as 455.7 reach, which definitely rules out the S4. I'm definitely not a S2.
S3 it is. Now to get 2 ladders a test their theory!
Food for thought.

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I remember watching that vid back in the day.
A lot of their “revelations” stemmed from Lee’s need at the time to only ride with a somewhat extreme hip hinge.
It’s dated info for sure, even for its time.

The trend towards downsizing was driven mostly by the relatively poor f/r ratios available in large and xl bikes up until somewhat recently.

You’ll be good to go with the s3, unless you are all torso and no legs. Maybe need a 50mm stem at worst.
I’m 6’, 20mm of spacers under a 40mm stem, 35mm rise bars, on a s3 and it’s perfect.
 
Red Peekay said:
Will be interested to see how it looks when stickered up...post some shots.
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So it turns out I ended up cancelling the Dreadnaught E once I saw a sneak peek photo of the new Orbea Wild with Avinox. So I've got one of those on order instead. But the Dreadnaught E is a very nice bike. I rode my friend's for a bit today and it's super plush and fun.
 
brendand said:
So it turns out I ended up cancelling the Dreadnaught E once I saw a sneak peek photo of the new Orbea Wild with Avinox. So I've got one of those on order instead. But the Dreadnaught E is a very nice bike. I rode my friend's for a bit today and it's super plush and fun.
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Ooooooo😋 got any photos of that? I was always keen on the Orbea Wild.... unfortunately I'm now committed to the Dreadie...
 
Plummet said:
I'm 47lb with the 400wh in. The bike feels fantastic with the light front end. I have no plans to upgrade anytime soon. i'll probably riding this out for another 2-3 years. We'll see what sort of tech crazyness has been released then. Hopefully a light weight and refined mgu so I can ditch the derailleur!
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MGU is dead. The power is getting so high that 3 speeds might be in order soon.
 
Suns_PSD said:
The Gen3 Rotary with the Volks is a nice touch.
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It wasn't a rotary for long, converted to good old LS power.
The stock 13b was slow in stock sequential format, and temperamental at best in built single format.

2760 pounds wet, 510whp, 50/50 weight, and naturally aspirated for reliability. Decently quick for a moderate amount of power, ran in the 10's on the street at 2200+ feet of elevation, and terrorized the local clubs on lapping days. Only faster FD for lap times around these parts was also LS swapped, running a quaife sequential gearbox, and a proper aero package.
Sold it last year, as we are in the process of downsizing to facilitate a move out to the western edge of Alberta, to be closer to the mountains and bike parks. I miss it, but comfort myself with things like e-dreadnoughts :giggle: .

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Suns_PSD said:
MGU is dead. The power is getting so high that 3 speeds might be in order soon.
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By that token, derailleurs could be dead as well, along with chains and take-up clutches. Putting only 3 gear speeds into a mid-drive motor won't be that hard and I can see DJI easily doing this with an arm tied behind its back.
 
The LS3 is hard to beat when you consider packaging, overall weight, reliability, etc. Those 13b's like to do weird stuff, like loose compression on synthetic oil, blow seals, etc.

You can't get anything short of a Miata or an old Lotus that light any longer.

I have a photo of my own built LS3 somewhere around here...
 
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