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There is a one way bearing there, maybe that's why it is smooth in one direction.they simply take whatever lies on the floor ... be it grease, butter from someone's sandwich or dead rat ... bafang is still Chinese and they have peculiar way for doing things to say the least...I've seen that corn head grease recommended, my only concern is that it is for low speed applications below 1000 RPM. I think the M560 exceeds that with its two-stage reduction.
I agree that the source of the noise is the stator/rotor assembly. Not sure about the cause though, maybe it has something to do with manufacturing tolerances, but in my opinion it's more likely the PWM frequency of the FOC controller.
I've not seen any hard evidence of a silent M560, just reports.
This may be explained by the subjective nature of noise perception and the fact that some riders are using low pedal cadence around 50 RPM where the noise is tolerable. Also, in city environments the motor sound is drowned out by the background noise.
If your test is successful I will open mine up again
Wow, interesting. So they are changing grease for different batches at the factory?
That stereotype may have been true 20 years ago, but these days Chinese factories are producing everything from low cost low quality products to the leading edge state of the art technology. Bafang are somewhere on that continuum, but certainly not at the bottom.
Well crap is a strong word but sadly it can't compete with quality of Bosch for example. I always thought, well, bosch gen4 is somehow noisy until I've experienced Bafang. Well, everything is subjective but once you have something to compare you can't ignore the facts. And fact is Bafang is simple noise like hell if you compare it to Bosch for example.
Well, what's stronger than M560 ? I mean trail e-bike, not commuters ? M560 has shitload of power and it's great on trails without fcking 25kmh limit but what about noise ? This is pretty irritating. I don't user thumb throttle at all since I don't need it on trails so this is the leat problem. M600 is a crap with power scourge issues. M560 is a crape because of noise issues. What else are my opinions ? I wanted to build my own bike but only option is with Bafang but what Bafang fulfill my needs ? None.
There are few mid drive motors that offers a lot more power than m560. I think I have seen 2500w mid drive motors lmao. For hub motor you can get 15 000w or even more.. My friend has 750w, 1000w and 1500w mid drive bikes and 3500w + 6750w rear hub bikes. The 6+ kw motor is built on a fat bike and it can easily lose grip from 45km/h on an asphalt or do a wheelie.. Top speed +80km/h.
Yeah, but it’s more like for commuting and not trails. 510 could be fine for my needs but I’m concerned about noise. I’ve tried m600 and while it is more silent than m560 power delivery in hills is tragic. Iy has power scourge all the time which is more annoying than noise. Believe me.
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Guys, two weeks ago I've received M560 with board ECU_M510_BAFANG_V0.8_20221214
They won't tell the truth. I've send the motor noise to the seller and they said it's normal so what to expect from them ? I have a suspicion they've send me old motor from the noisy batch. But I can't prove it that's why I need someone who is more experienced in this area. I saw some screens from inside of these motors where different ECU was used specifically for M560. On mine it says M510 controller but I assume the last number is manufacturing date so if it says 20221214 I would assume it is from 2022? But that time M560 was not released and M510 probably either.
That looks exactly same as mine. So I'm really curios on the noise once your friend install it. I've also got it with the frame. Ordered directly from dengfu here:
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"simple truth" lmao.. You do know that Bosch and all other motors have their own problems? Some have had recalls for faulty batteries etc.
I can't agree. I also have M600 and this is far away from virtually no sound either. Either our noise perception is different or you must have some hearing issues. I'm not dare to say that Bosch gen4 is silent because there obviously is some but it's much more quiet than Bafang M560 and also M600 I've tried. More over, this M600 is pretty shitty, at least mine because I don't know why the power is not stable on climbing. It oscillates and it's pretty annoying. Like someone is constantly shifting throttle. Sometimes it even stops deliver power in hill for short of a moment. It's either some torque sensor issue or I don't know but I'm not excited about this motor either. Either I've got some lemons, or bafang is simply not that good. M510 is on the way to me so if this one will be with same characteristics then I would not consider it as a bad luck anymore but simply confirms that bafang is shitty. I wanted to say low cost alternative but I can't say this because I've saw it selling for 1000+ eur here in Europe which is insane. So let's see.
With this I agree. Really ebike frame manufacturers should put more effort into doing some dampening but so does the motor manufacturers. In bafang there is absolutely nothing for dampening the noise. In comparison with bosh it's night and day. Also there is no consensus on this high frequency pitched noise. They should maybe work on it.
I think you must be living in a different world than the one I do. No manufacturer is going to give you the freedoms of customising their product you are asking for and nor should they. They are the ones who have put in the hard yards of research and development. They expect a financial return.
