Avinox SRAM AXS Motor power Cable (M1/M2 Variants)

The light cable looks correct. It has 4 wires coming out, so I'd say all 4 pins are connected, and I'm guessing only red and black are used by the derailleur, as it just needs a power supply. There is no data connection. The derailleur drawing power is what indexes the smoothshift.

I'm guessing you'll find a red and black cable in the old shift cable.

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Great, it seems logic but I would not trust to connecting red with red without checking, but I can measure when my frame arrives.

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Pinout of light cable. As expected only red and black used.

Just got to find positive and negative on the Old power cable.

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Jeez, that Higo A cable would be worth thousands of dollars in the US if you could find a way to smuggle it in.

Interesting that they went to 4 pins though. Existing AXS derailleurs have no way to use the pins but perhaps the S1000, Shimano, and/or future systems will have direct communications. I imagine "Smoothshift" could be smoother/faster if the motor knew which direction it was shifting. Also, you could potentially use the Avinox remotes for shifting instead of dedicated AXS/Di2 remotes.

I thought they would have done all that with the existing Bluetooth comms, but for whatever reason they don't seem to be interconnecting the various BT devices. I'd bet there's a future lineup of lighter/smaller/cheaper "wired" derailleurs which have no provisions for batteries or Bluetooth.
 
Smugly reading the thread after fitting 10 speed linkglide 😁.
Sorry i cant remember if both ends of the cable were blue and its quite the fiddle to take it apart again to check.
Good luck anyway.
What !!!
Have you managed to get 10S Linkglide Di2 to work with the M2S ? Thought it only worked with Shimano and Bosch.
That would be cool.
Or I am completely lost in all the variations
:(
 
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This seems to get repeatedly and endlessly discussed in multiple parallel threads, so :

You need the SRAM AXS Cable (Higo Micro A ??). Most people seem to go for the 955mm option (also available in 780mm 028.003).

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Manufacturer Item code : 11.3018.028.001

Or SRAM Model ID : EP-EAC-ECD-A1

Search for either of those and you should find a selection of vendors.

It's expensive for what it is. You can buy the cable in two parts and make one up, which is cheaper, but it's not easy finding the two ends : Haven't seen them on aliexpress for example.

Example links to the diy option in this post (though not 100% Sure the motor end connector is the correct on in the links) :

Re Hugo Micro A, that's the connector used on Avinox? Seen adverts for that with no ref to Amflow or Avinox

They seem expensive at £109. Anyone know where it's cheaper or 2nd hand?
 
Re Hugo Micro A, that's the connector used on Avinox? Seen adverts for that with no ref to Amflow or Avinox

They seem expensive at £109. Anyone know where it's cheaper or 2nd hand?
It appears that it depends which Avinox motor you have, I think the Higo A connector is for the original M1 motor.

I think the new M2 and M2S require the Z405 connector. SRAM cable 00.3018.418.001.

Please wait for confirmation before buying though as I'm not 100% sure. I'm sure one of the other helpful forum members will confirm in due course.
 
It appears that it depends which Avinox motor you have, I think the Higo A connector is for the original M1 motor.

I think the new M2 and M2S require the Z405 connector. SRAM cable 00.3018.418.001.

Please wait for confirmation before buying though as I'm not 100% sure. I'm sure one of the other helpful forum members will confirm in due course.
I think we can safely say.
M1 = Higo Micro A
M2S = Higo Z405

The unknown is the M2 motor.

The problem is sourcing the M2S cable. I can find no one selling it, So I'm sourcing an M1 cable and an Amflow light cable which has the Z405 cable end, and splicing them together.

Both cables appear to have a red and black wire that just requires joining, to supply the derailleur with a DC power source.

I will check polarity against my existing Amflow cable. I'll post results.
 
If you are splicing, then the Bosch AXS version is often a lot cheaper.
Also, where are you able to find the light cable ?
 
I may have missed this earlier in the thread but where did you purchase the wire harness (cable) that connects to the AXS mech?
 
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€16 is probably the VAT free price for export. They seem to really hate the UK. Probably still to do with the B word !
EBike24 have explained it.
British customs have been returning all their parcels valued under a certain figure so they instituted a €200 minimum so that they definitely get through.
British customs want to force all EU companies to register with UK VAT so that they don't have to deal with any parcels under the £135 VAT at source threshold.
Apparently.
 
My Avinox M1 AXS Power cable has turned up. Cost me AUD$164. I could have got the Bosch one for AUD$120, but didn't find it till after I purchased the M1 cable. Them's the breaks.

The light switch cable has been loaded into a container to leave Europe. Hopefully it's not trying to come through the Strait of Hormuz ........ :ROFLMAO:

When it turns up I will splice the red and black wires together. Hopefully the M2S bike will turn up about the same time. Current ETA is mid May.
 
So confirming that the Extension A Port coming out of the motor, that the Derailleur is powered from, is just a 12VDC supply. So you can actually connect your SRAM dropper post, using the same battery replacement cable.

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But if you do and have Smoothshift turned on. Won't the chainwheel spool every time you operate the dropper ? So would you be better off connecting the dropper to the Display, on Extension Port B, and leaving the Derailleur wired solely to Extension Port A ?

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But if you do and have Smoothshift turned on. Won't the chainwheel spool every time you operate the dropper ? So would you be better off connecting the dropper to the Display, on Extension Port B, and leaving the Derailleur wired solely to Extension Port A ?
If it was just using the old two two connector with a Y connector for mech and dropper, then yes.

But it's now a 4 port connector. One for the mech, one for the dropper. So the current sensing for smoothshift would have presumably been kept separate from the dropper circuit.

The pre-release motors only had the old style connector, so was obviously something they were still developing/expanding on.

If/when the hub gearbox is released I guess that might need all 4 wires, but based on everything else they've done it will probably just need the existing two and use bluetooth.

It's interesting that they've twinned the dropper options so you could connect from the motor or the display - not sure if this is for easier backwards compatibility for M1 owners or just future component flexibility.
 
If it was just using the old two two connector with a Y connector for mech and dropper, then yes.

But it's now a 4 port connector. One for the mech, one for the dropper. So the current sensing for smoothshift would have presumably been kept separate from the dropper circuit.

The pre-release motors only had the old style connector, so was obviously something they were still developing/expanding on.

If/when the hub gearbox is released I guess that might need all 4 wires, but based on everything else they've done it will probably just need the existing two and use bluetooth.

It's interesting that they've twinned the dropper options so you could connect from the motor or the display - not sure if this is for easier backwards compatibility for M1 owners or just future component flexibility.
@Zimmerframe
Where can I find the website with the originals of your images, please.
 
But it's now a 4 port connector. One for the mech, one for the dropper.
That would mean the 4 wires contain two separate 12VDC supplies. It would also mean that if you do not connect the derailleur to the correct supply. Smoothshift won't work.

So the red and black wire should be one supply, and the green and yellow wire should be another one. I'll be able to check this.
 
Yes 😂

So, where does the original master chart come from @Astro66 / @Zimmerframe

Please
Haven't found the official master yet - that's "in house" unfortunately - the information is on display at Sea otter.

Have done a spoofy upgrade due to a foot injury and induced boredom from such this morning :

 
Interesting stuff
It would be good to see the original chart as some of the pixels are a bit blurry and it may be better in the original !?
Strange to find the chargers are shown as being different in more ways than just the plug-connector

Avinov 582W/I68W Charger (Round Connector)

Avinex 508W/188W Chorger (Square Connector)

Accessories Page (Amflow) both are 508W/168W

New Battery Shown - RS500---RS800/FS600?
(Must be RS600---RS800/RS600)

Above - Same image labeled RS800---FP700/FS800/FS600
(Must be RS600---FP700/FS800/FS600)

Some pixels may have gone astray !?

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Hence my wish for the original
Cheers All
 
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