Avinox launch 1500w M2S motor and cheaper M2 motor

[Brawwp]

I'm yet to find a hill I cannot ride up with my Bosch Gen 4 (85Nm and 750w)

The Bike Park Wales ebike climb is technical and reaches 33% in some points, along with tight switch-backs over large roots. Turbo mode is already too much for these, practice and technique matters more.

Feels to me, hills that I couldn't get up would be unrideable anyway. e.g. one section of Snowdon Llanberis path up is push up regardless of the bike you're on.

For sure, if I had a M2 / M2S motor it would be possible to use higher power on some of the straighter up sections meaning an overall quicker time up, but that has the consequence of using more battery, so reducing the overall possible range, on bikes with a fixed in battery (majority of them) is less than ideal.

Also, at some of the smaller Bike Parks (FoD, Flyup 417, WindHill) i'm towing my son (65kg) up the climb on his 18Kg DH bike with zero issues.

So for me, upgrading to a bike with one of these new M2 motors is chasing a numbers one up game, rather than adding any value.

Yeah because your eyes only see power and wattage and not the whole benefit of Avinox.

The whole I won’t buy an Avinox because it’s too powerful and you don’t need that is so bizarre. Just don’t hit boost… tune the different maps however you want. The avinox delivers its power in the most natural usable way imo. There’s way more to Avinox than how powerful it CAN be.

Not saying sell your bike to go get one if you’re happy with it, but it’s crazy to me to leave out Avinox in your next bike decision just because it has power on tap if you want to use it..But whatever man, you do you

 

[action99]

I'm yet to find a hill I cannot ride up with my Bosch Gen 4 (85Nm and 750w)

The Bike Park Wales ebike climb is technical and reaches 33% in some points, along with tight switch-backs over large roots. Turbo mode is already too much for these, practice and technique matters more.

Feels to me, hills that I couldn't get up would be unrideable anyway. e.g. one section of Snowdon Llanberis path up is push up regardless of the bike you're on.

For sure, if I had a M2 / M2S motor it would be possible to use higher power on some of the straighter up sections meaning an overall quicker time up, but that has the consequence of using more battery, so reducing the overall possible range, on bikes with a fixed in battery (majority of them) is less than ideal.

Also, at some of the smaller Bike Parks (FoD, Flyup 417, WindHill) i'm towing my son (65kg) up the climb on his 18Kg DH bike with zero issues.

So for me, upgrading to a bike with one of these new M2 motors is chasing a numbers one up game, rather than adding any value.

You ride hills and some are so easy that you can tow your son, I ride high alpine trails some peaks are 3000+ m height, nothing to do with what you do.
We are not chasing numbers, we use the power and even more so a well manager power (have you ever tried a DJI on difficult single trail?) to go where before we would not go because we would need to push it too much. That this is not for you great, but stating that people don't need it shows a narrow view.

 

[bmwpowere36m3]

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7400' per hour, that's fast. Looked like he was against the 20 mph limiter (if thats the "22" seen on the display) on the climb ONLY putting in 150W on a ~ 7% climb. Sure, the battery only lasted 30 minutes.

 

[Trek-Rail-eBike]

You ride hills and some are so easy that you can tow your son, I ride high alpine trails some peaks are 3000+ m height, nothing to do with what you do.
We are not chasing numbers, we use the power and even more so a well manager power (have you ever tried a DJI on difficult single trail?) to go where before we would not go because we would need to push it too much. That this is not for you great, but stating that people don't need it shows a narrow view.

Selective reading

You missed/skipped past the first part of my post where I mentioned riding up technical 33% climbs
Sure, I tow my son up the easy trails, but the not the harder/steeper stuff, as he will be on his ebike for these, instead of his DH bike, or we use uplifts at the Bike Parks. (Fort William has no trail to ride up to the World Cup track)

As I said - the really steep hills that I can't get up, I very likely wouldn't be able to get up on any bike, regardless of the power & torque output, because the steepness and/or surface makes it impossible to ride up.

What's the climbing amount for rides with the 3000+ m peak height?
Avinox quoting a climbing range of between 1,400 to nearly 2,000 meters (800Wh battery) which I imagine will be using Eco mode, where power delivery is up to a maximum of 400 Watts, which is obviously much below what all of the older full power generation motors can deliver.

Yes, the mode power & torque can be changed in the app, but you will be typically scaling it down to prioritize battery range on the higher climbing rides.

 

[niceness]

Selective reading

You missed/skipped past the first part of my post where I mentioned riding up technical 33% climbs
Sure, I tow my son up the easy trails, but the not the harder/steeper stuff, as he will be on his ebike for these, instead of his DH bike, or we use uplifts at the Bike Parks. (Fort William has no trail to ride up to the World Cup track)

As I said - the really steep hills that I can't get up, I very likely wouldn't be able to get up on any bike, regardless of the power & torque output, because the steepness and/or surface makes it impossible to ride up.

What's the climbing amount for rides with the 3000+ m peak height?
Avinox quoting a climbing range of between 1,400 to nearly 2,000 meters (800Wh battery) which I imagine will be using Eco mode, where power delivery is up to a maximum of 400 Watts, which is obviously much below what all of the older full power generation motors can deliver.

Yes, the mode power & torque can be changed in the app, but you will be typically scaling it down to prioritize battery range on the higher climbing rides.

Depends on your weight etc and what mode you use but I did 1000 meters and 35 kilometers in original Auto/Trail mode with 50% of the 700 battery.

 

[action99]

Selective reading

You missed/skipped past the first part of my post where I mentioned riding up technical 33% climbs
Sure, I tow my son up the easy trails, but the not the harder/steeper stuff, as he will be on his ebike for these, instead of his DH bike, or we use uplifts at the Bike Parks. (Fort William has no trail to ride up to the World Cup track)

As I said - the really steep hills that I can't get up, I very likely wouldn't be able to get up on any bike, regardless of the power & torque output, because the steepness and/or surface makes it impossible to ride up.

What's the climbing amount for rides with the 3000+ m peak height?
Avinox quoting a climbing range of between 1,400 to nearly 2,000 meters (800Wh battery) which I imagine will be using Eco mode, where power delivery is up to a maximum of 400 Watts, which is obviously much below what all of the older full power generation motors can deliver.

Yes, the mode power & torque can be changed in the app, but you will be typically scaling it down to prioritize battery range on the higher climbing rides.

Yesterday tour, I started at 923m did 1758m elevation as it has a bit up and down to reach the peak at 2430m, 31km 90% single trails. I did a stop at the mountain hut for ~40min recharge and arrived back home with 4% battery left. So probably used ~1100 wh.

I'm sure that you with your skills you would have pedal it 100% on your current bike without using Turbo and without recharging and I'm happy for you.

Me, although it seems impossible for any human to use 130nm and 1300w (combined this time was 193nm), I did use trail /turbo a lot and compared to my old 85nm/600w bike I had to push only in two sections instead of 10+. So I'm super glad that DJI has created this motor and every tour I learn more and more how to use the power and clear more and more sections.

I'm sorry that, me, a below average joe, with M2s can now pedal where he had to push before and his having tons of fun doin it.

PS: maybe UK hills could be a bit different than Swiss Alps. This is 2998m (start is at 1656m):

 

[ShapeThings]

That ridge line image needs to go to pic of the day thread (I only know there is one because it happened to be in the “similar threads”
at the bottom of the page).

I imagine it’s the last place you wanna experience a gust of wind.

 

[haromania]

Yesterday tour, I started at 923m did 1758m elevation as it has a bit up and down to reach the peak at 2430m, 31km 90% single trails. I did a stop at the mountain hut for ~40min recharge and arrived back home with 4% battery left. So probably used ~1100 wh.

I'm sure that you with your skills you would have pedal it 100% on your current bike without using Turbo and without recharging and I'm happy for you.

Me, although it seems impossible for any human to use 130nm and 1300w (combined this time was 193nm), I did use trail /turbo a lot and compared to my old 85nm/600w bike I had to push only in two sections instead of 10+. So I'm super glad that DJI has created this motor and every tour I learn more and more how to use the power and clear more and more sections.

I'm sorry that, me, a below average joe, with M2s can now pedal where he had to push before and his having tons of fun doin it.

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PS: maybe UK hills could be a bit different than Swiss Alps. This is 2998m (start is at 1656m):View attachment 184733

Fantastic!!

 

[Red Peekay]

A link to Avinox's press release as a response to the "too much power" argument kicking around.

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/avinox-releases-statement-regarding-emtb-power.html

 

[Polar]

A link to Avinox's press release as a response to the "too much power" argument kicking around.

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/avinox-releases-statement-regarding-emtb-power.html

Wonder how many that has bought or will buy Avinox only because of the power and go all in to use the power as often as possible.
Avinox is bragging about their power and then release a press note telling ppl not to use it when they want to..

Power Is About Capability, Not Speed but in practice it's the other way around.

 

[Scott_123]

People are getting WAY into the weeds on this one. The M1 and M2 motors are the best on the market at the moment. Buy it, ride it, and enjoy it. Tune your bike the way you want and have fun. There is nothing wrong with having some extra head room in the motor department. On my M1 I run Eco and Auto [tuned to 85Nm] and at age 64 there is some truly gnarly stuff I would have never been able to do with an analog bike. For me, this is FUN.

 

[Euro]

A link to Avinox's press release as a response to the "too much power" argument kicking around.

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/avinox-releases-statement-regarding-emtb-power.html

The comments section is some craic. I’m gonna need a blue badge for my PX when arrives, so folk know the reason I bought a devil bike from the devil

 

[DirkWisely]

Wonder how many that has bought or will buy Avinox only because of the power and go all in to use the power as often as possible.
Avinox is bragging about their power and then release a press note telling ppl not to use it when they want to..

Power Is About Capability, Not Speed but in practice it's the other way around.

I don't know how many people are like me, but it's definitely not about speed in practice. 700-800wh is not enough for me to go faster than my current bike and still go the distance. If someone's ride was already running down the battery of their current bike with a average battery size then an Avinox won't be any faster on average.

 

[entrechats]

Just got my new bike yesterday and did only a quick ride yet. I tuned all the modes a bit down and did the ride in trail mode, it is pushing crazy. I think I will have fun with this M2S.

 

[Roughshod]

To be announced next month - The Megamo RYAL trail bike.

M2 and M2S - 4 models from 3999€/£.
Alloy Frame with removable battery, 800Wh.

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Post in thread 'Megamo Reason M2 April release — any color options known?'

Apr 15, 2026

@Greg Watts

Latest Info:
RYAL Model Range : Info confirmed
- Alloy 160mm Travel
- Removable Battery 800Wh (Range extenders as per Avinox system as and when released)
- 4 Models : £3999 M2, £4499 M2, £5499 M2S, £6999 M2S
- 3 Colours : All Black, Red/Black, White/Black
Reveal due in May.

UPON ALONG Model Range
Carbon Drop Bar Gravel Bike - Avinox
Reveal Unknown.

ALONG UPON Model Range
Carbon Road Bike - Avinox
Reveal Unknown.

Information may be subject to change until final reveal.
Interested - Please contact your local Bike Shop (and share any more info )

e&OE
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• Petrex

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Latest Info:
RYAL Model Range : Info confirmed
- Alloy 160mm Travel
- Removable Battery 800Wh (Range extenders as per Avinox system as and when released)
- 4 Models : £3999 M2, £4499 M2, £5499 M2S, £6999 M2S
- 3 Colours : All Black, Red/Black, White/Black
Reveal due in May.

Dealers now placing pre-orders with full details available in-store/phone.

Megamo Upon E-Road bike just been announced. Unfortunately not the gravel bike, so looks like that will be the Along. Wonder when that and the Ryal Trail Bike will be announced.

Interesting they say it's build on road geometry with longer reach but their current Bosch powered gravel bike has even longer reach. Hopefully their Avinox gravel bike has slightly more relaxed geometry and more mounts.

Interesting to see the M2S make it's way into a road bike, frame doesn't look too chunky either. Internal 600Wh battery.

 

[TheSnowShark]

How ugly ! Is it a torture device ?

 

[Rando_12345]

(Double posting from a Cube thread, as it is relevant to the power discussion here)

Yesterday I participated in a very local XC race with an emtb category with my Cube one77. Before the race I noticed one Amflow PL pro (avinox M1) and a Mondraker Zendit (avinox M2s), so assumed I had no chance.

Surprisingly, at the end of the 16km course with only 400m of climbing:

1st place: Young and very light guy on a Cube one55 (Gen4 Bosch!)
2nd place: Myself, middle age + middle weight on a Cube one77 (Gen5 with 120Nm update)
3rd place: Middle age, light rider on the Zendit.

The first very steep hill really showed the difference in power, the avinox bikes gained 5-10s on the rest of us over a short 2 minute climb, but for most of the race the 25km/h limit made the difference in power less important on less steep climbs. The final part of the race was a 5 minute uphill, the Zendit went from being hundreds of meters behind me to right on my wheel, I was on the verge of passing out from the sprint while the Zendit rider was putting in minimal effort. But still, skill on the single track prevailed over pure watts even in a questionable format like emtb XC...

So even though the power is clearly much higher on the avinox bikes, I don't think it particularly changes anything regarding what is possible on an ebike.

 

[Wojtek]

Px Carbon + DT Swiss EXC 1501 Spline® One 30 wheelset upgrade (or you have any other suggestion for wheelset upgrade) OR Px Carbon Pro?

How are amflow carbon wheels holding on? Have they been upgraded?

Thanks!

 

[Petrex]

... I don't think it particularly changes anything regarding what is possible on an ebike.

Except, possibly the old or infirm that can't produce much power and need a bit more help.

 

[Euro]

I decided to cancel my PX Pro. It was to be my first ever bike and I was very excited. However, my dealings with these folk over the past few weeks was not what I'd hope for. I think I've dodged a bullet with this crowd. Amateurflow, scAmflow, I don’t know, they’re not bike people.

I've order something less controversial from a crowd I'm familiar with.

 

[Wojtek]

I decided to cancel my PX Pro. It was to be my first ever bike and I was very excited. However, my dealings with these folk over the past few weeks was not what I'd hope for. I think I've dodged a bullet with this crowd. Amateurflow, scAmflow, I don’t know, they’re not bike people.

I've order something less controversial from a crowd I'm familiar with.

could you share more please? I am about to get one and would like to know your experience. Many of us would i guess.

 

[Euro]

Sure thing. I ordered the bike from the Amflow site as they seemed to be the only place that had a delivery date. Paid in full mid April, delivery was 2nd June. Around the end of May I went looking for an update. Was finally told there was a delay I wouldn’t be getting the bike. I complained about poor comms and was told my complaint would be escalated (looked to be AI generated but hey ho). Got told mid June for delivery. Then got contacted by customer support manager. He appeared to be AI too. Repeated the same guff as the subordinate. I was offered a free pair of amflow grips as compensation. I asked for something useful (tubeless kit, torque wrench etc) instead. I’ve new death grips and vault pedals ready to fit once it arrives. Anyways… got told mid June was a no, and end of June is when first shipment is due. There is a chance my bike is in it.

I just didn’t think this was good enough. Not the delay, but how it was handled. The thought of any sort of warranty issue filled me with dread so I asked for a refund. Even the comms around this were amateur, different emails with conflicting info. It must be chaos in Amflow HQ, I’m happy to stay well away.

 

[Wojtek]

Sure thing. I ordered the bike from the Amflow site as they seemed to be the only place that had a delivery date. Paid in full mid April, delivery was 2nd June. Around the end of May I went looking for an update. Was finally told there was a delay I would be getting the bike. I complained about poor comms and was told my complaint would be escalated (looked to be AI generated but hey ho). Got told mid June for delivery. Then got contacted by customer support manager. He appeared to be AI too. Repeated the same guff as the subordinate. I was offered a free pair of amflow grips as compensation. I asked for something useful (tubeless kit, torque wrench etc) instead. I’ve new death grips and vault pedals ready to fit once it arrives. Anyways… got told mid June was a no, and end of June is when first shipment is due. There is a chance my bike is in it.

I just didn’t think this was good enough. Not the delay, but how it was handled. The thought of any sort of warranty issue filled me with dread so I asked for a refund. Even the comms around this were amateur, different emails with conflicting info. It must be chias in Amflow HQ, I’m happy to stay well away.

I wonder how it works with warranty and dealing with LBSs if ebike was purchased online or in a different country...

 

[InRustWeTrust]

Why buy a bike with the Avinox M2S motor when you can buy a stark for the same money?

All the new bikes with the M2S motor are insanely expensive.

 

[Zimmerframe]

Why buy a bike with the Avinox M2S motor when you can buy a stark for the same money?

€13000 !! Not sure why, I expected it to be less. We accept that we'll be shafted when buying an EMTB, but an iddy biddy little electric moto I'd have thought would have been cheaper.

As all the grumpo's keep pointing out, the performance is similar and that Avinox with it's 2hp peak is almost identical to the moto with 80hp...... Makes you wonder why anyone who wants to buy a moto would even bother when they can by a super powerful EMTB with a neck breaking 2hp.

 

[Astro66]

Why buy a bike with the Avinox M2S motor when you can buy a stark for the same money?

This is the simplest question ever asked. Because you can ride an EN15194 compliant Avinox EMTB, anywhere you can ride a bicycle. National Parks, Bike Parks, Shared Paths, along the beaches, on the roads, anywhere.

E-Moto's cannot.

This opens up some of the most beautiful places within 100km of where we live, in these high stress cities. Which means, everyday I can find that little piece of beauty, that motivates us to look forward to that next day, no matter what shit is going on.

 

[Euro]

I wonder how it works with warranty and dealing with LBSs if ebike was purchased online or in a different country...

Not sure. I’m sure the lbs will do their best but the buck stops with Amflow and their team. Good luck with that.

 

[InRustWeTrust]

€13000 !! Not sure why, I expected it to be less. We accept that we'll be shafted when buying an EMTB, but an iddy biddy little electric moto I'd have thought would have been cheaper.

As all the grumpo's keep pointing out, the performance is similar and that Avinox with it's 2hp peak is almost identical to the moto with 80hp...... Makes you wonder why anyone who wants to buy a moto would even bother when they can by a super powerful EMTB with a neck breaking 2hp.

Fair point, my neck is still recovering from that 2hp launch! From when i tried my friends avinox


what I mean. If €13k gets you an 80hp engineering e-moto from Stark, it really highlights how insanely inflated EMTB pricing has become when an 'iddy biddy' bicycle motor commands the same premium.

 

[Rando_12345]

Fair point, my neck is still recovering from that 2hp launch! From when i tried my friends avinox


what I mean. If €13k gets you an 80hp engineering e-moto from Stark, it really highlights how insanely inflated EMTB pricing has become when an 'iddy biddy' bicycle motor commands the same premium.

There are multiple avinox bikes on sale under 5k and plenty of well specced ones for 6-7k. Spending over 10k on a bike (electric or not) has always been a rippoff just to get the nicest parts that almost certainly don't add performance.

 

[InRustWeTrust]

This is the simplest question ever asked. Because you can ride an EN15194 compliant Avinox EMTB, anywhere you can ride a bicycle. National Parks, Bike Parks, Shared Paths, along the beaches, on the roads, anywhere.

E-Moto's cannot.

This opens up some of the most beautiful places within 100km of where we live, in these high stress cities. Which means, everyday I can find that little piece of beauty, that motivates us to look forward to that next day, no matter what shit is going on.

You’re 100% right on the legal access, and that's the winning argument for now. But you’ve got to admit, we are sliding down a slippery slope here when the emtbs brand keep gain moore power.

Look at the new DJI Avinox M2S—it’s pumping out 1,500W of peak power and 150Nm of torque. For context, a Surron Light Bee X starts at 3,000W of rated power. If eMTB manufacturers keep pushing the limits in this power arms race, the gap between an eMTB and a Surron is going to vanish.

For me the new avinox motor are not a emtb motor , i already rate it as a emoto.