That's what I've done, plus you can get a tube & tyre levers I there as well,makes more sense,not a fan of the look particularly though.Why not just order that little bag thing and put a normal multi-tool in there?
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2024 Strive:ON
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Coming soon. Peaty’s Trail Tool Wrap.
Yeah I am waiting on this and this colour...got a spare Rob
Tempted by this...
Mars2
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Sorry to speak again about rear suspension with X2 shock and maybe I worry for nothing as I like how the bike ride.
But it look like I use a lot of travel easily. I'm 75 KG 180 Psi that set me a bit under 30% of sag.
Even going up by some fireman road quite smooth I use more than 50% of the travel. this avoiding bump on that road if I don't I'm more at 75% of travel used going up.
Is that normal?
You can see where the O-ring seat after going up by smooth road and also a picture of how that road to climb up to top of bike park look like. Nothing demanding on rear suspension.
I thought that Fabien Barrel said that the Strive on suspension was made to have a lot of mid stroke support?
But it look like I use a lot of travel easily. I'm 75 KG 180 Psi that set me a bit under 30% of sag.
Even going up by some fireman road quite smooth I use more than 50% of the travel. this avoiding bump on that road if I don't I'm more at 75% of travel used going up.
Is that normal?
You can see where the O-ring seat after going up by smooth road and also a picture of how that road to climb up to top of bike park look like. Nothing demanding on rear suspension.
I thought that Fabien Barrel said that the Strive on suspension was made to have a lot of mid stroke support?
CrispyDesigns
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I've always found the rear Fox shock on my Orbea Rise to be overly 'soft' if I set the PSI according to the Fox recommendation and at 30% sag. I get a way better feel and a more managed use of the shock stroke if I set to 25% sag. I know they are different bike with different kinematics but it's free to try and could be a very easy and quick fix
Mars2
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That is what I also want to try. Just thinking I will loose some sensitivity over small hit.
It's my first bike with X2
It's my first bike with X2
Don’t focus too much on simply minimizing stroke use under pedaling IMO, make it feel good and let the motor help overcome inefficiencies. It’s hard to comment on the 75% without knowing ascent speed and body dynamics when you hit the “bump.”
Mars2
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I'm going up at about 15 to 18Km/h sitting on the saddle. So minimum body dynamic.
I don't care about efficiency going up. It's just a bad moment to go through to enjoy the downhill.
It's just that going up on this bike I can look at the shock and see how much stroke I use for almost flat surface so I'm wondering what is happening going down? Am I always between 50% and 95%? Using too much mid stroke.
Also when I bike with friend shuttling up they often comment that I'm very down from the back
I will also try with less air in the fork I'm at 18% of sag. Maybe it will change the balance
PS:I did a more accurate sag checking and I'm at 27.5% exactly ( 17.9mm measured with caliper)
I don't care about efficiency going up. It's just a bad moment to go through to enjoy the downhill.
It's just that going up on this bike I can look at the shock and see how much stroke I use for almost flat surface so I'm wondering what is happening going down? Am I always between 50% and 95%? Using too much mid stroke.
Also when I bike with friend shuttling up they often comment that I'm very down from the back
I will also try with less air in the fork I'm at 18% of sag. Maybe it will change the balance
PS:I did a more accurate sag checking and I'm at 27.5% exactly ( 17.9mm measured with caliper)
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CrispyDesigns
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Also worth trying a small volume spacer?
Mars2
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To my understanding Volume spacer help mostly on end stroke. If I get it right
I think it will not help much mid stroke
X2 graph spacer vs no spacer
I think it will not help much mid stroke
X2 graph spacer vs no spacer
Nice view! What goggles are those?
Mars2
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Smith goggles
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Did some test pedaling on the road access to my house ( dirt road) try 180 psi Compression fully open then fully closed then 185 psi Compression fully open then fully close. it's always about 50% of travel used No change.
look like it goes very easy through the first 50%. Maybe it's because it's the first bike where I can see the shock when pedaling that I get paranoid
Some tester on PB have use telemetry and find out the best set up on his fox shock was Fully open LSR and fully closed LSC. I will try that tomorow.
An other tester on Bike radar says that the Fox X2 need to be ride with every thing fully open!
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look like it goes very easy through the first 50%. Maybe it's because it's the first bike where I can see the shock when pedaling that I get paranoid
Some tester on PB have use telemetry and find out the best set up on his fox shock was Fully open LSR and fully closed LSC. I will try that tomorow.
An other tester on Bike radar says that the Fox X2 need to be ride with every thing fully open!
Fox Float X2 Factory 2Pos-Adjust (2022) review
The Float X2 shock’s high price goes in hand-in-hand with high performance
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had the Bike for 8 days now, and i am still blown away how fun it is just to ride, it just handles so good on everything.
I have it standing inside in my hallway and everytime i look at it i just want to go.
Getting used to the new saddle brought some initial discomfort but its getting significantly better every ride, ass pain is the only thing holding me from riding all the time.
I need to wrap this bike, i love it.
I have it standing inside in my hallway and everytime i look at it i just want to go.
Getting used to the new saddle brought some initial discomfort but its getting significantly better every ride, ass pain is the only thing holding me from riding all the time.
I need to wrap this bike, i love it.
I think that's a regular criticism of Fox suspension; that you need to ride with everything open unless you're on the heavier side.Did some test pedaling on the road access to my house ( dirt road) try 180 psi Compression fully open then fully closed then 185 psi Compression fully open then fully close. it's always about 50% of travel used No change.
look like it goes very easy through the first 50%. Maybe it's because it's the first bike where I can see the shock when pedaling that I get paranoid
Some tester on PB have use telemetry and find out the best set up on his fox shock was Fully open LSR and fully closed LSC. I will try that tomorow.
An other tester on Bike radar says that the Fox X2 need to be ride with every thing fully open!
Fox Float X2 Factory 2Pos-Adjust (2022) review
The Float X2 shock’s high price goes in hand-in-hand with high performance
Mars2
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Went this morning to test LSR fully open and LSC 3/4 closed felt super good downhill. Bike have very good pop for jump and felt very stable on rock garden.
I try LSC fully closed but was too harsh. try LSC half open and felt using too much travel.
Still using 50% to 75% of travel going uphill but I think I will try forget about that.
I try LSC fully closed but was too harsh. try LSC half open and felt using too much travel.
Still using 50% to 75% of travel going uphill but I think I will try forget about that.
I think they designed the bike to use more travel on purpose though. I remember reading that they did this because they realised most riders were never utilising all of their travel, so perhaps it's by design.
As long as it feels good and you're not bottoming out all the time, then should be all good.
Mars2
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the more i ride this bike the more I love it. just trying to get the best out of it for my kind of riding.
the only thing i hate on it is not Canyon design but Bosch and it's this 25km/h limit that is not possible to change
the next time I buy a bike this will be a big "NO buy it" so frustrating for some jump or regain speed after curve downhill and you have to pedal so hard because you already way past 25km/h
I always go down in Turbo mode to have those little boost after curve like on a MX. But with Bosch this is useless.
the only thing i hate on it is not Canyon design but Bosch and it's this 25km/h limit that is not possible to change
the next time I buy a bike this will be a big "NO buy it" so frustrating for some jump or regain speed after curve downhill and you have to pedal so hard because you already way past 25km/h
I always go down in Turbo mode to have those little boost after curve like on a MX. But with Bosch this is useless.
Mars2
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I fully understand this speed limit make sense as some of those motor's will be use on road and city. But they should have some kind of over boost like on car's in the 90's. maybe 5 second where you can have assistance between 25 and 50Km/h and then the 25 limit kick back on, and you can't use that over boost for the next 30 or 45second. At least for motor that going to be fitted on MTB's. like that people can't cruise at 50Km/h but you can get boost when you need it.
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That's not really Bosch's fault though. As I understand it's EU laws that mandate the speed limit.
Winryn
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It’s the only negative to the bike for me. I absolutely hate the limit. I rode 3200 miles on my old Shimano motor set to USA region and it’s very difficult to adjust to. What doesn’t help me is a lot of my riding is on early morning Wrekin rides and I ride 6 miles on the road. I find myself just spinning the pedals to stay at 16mph whereas naturally riding fast before I was sitting at 19-20mph but still under motor support. That feeling of cut off on the road is awful as it’s like someone has slammed the brakes on riding beyond it. If anyone can change the region I’d happily pay £1000 if someone could sort it
Mars2
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HI Rob did you have more time with the 180mm fork? Still enjoying it?
Did you set that fork more soft to use more travel than the 170mm?
Many question sorry. But very interest in that.
Did you set that fork more soft to use more travel than the 170mm?
Many question sorry. But very interest in that.
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I've only had one quick ride really, but will be out all day tomorrow, so will report back.
Its taken from my Kenevo so have not adjusted anything at all (although i set bars 10mm lower on stem).
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4 weeks and 300 miles covered I’m still loving the bike.
It really is a tremendous all rounder. As stated before, I was a medium on my previous focus jam 2 and even though the numbers say it was smaller and shorter, in reality I can’t feel any difference. In the saddle the bike feels shorter, out of the saddle I just feel like I’m in the middle of the bike with a nice slack front end which makes me a far better rider on the descents. The slacker head makes the steering slightly slower than I’m used to on fairly tame trails however once used to it it doesn’t take the fun away. I now find myself looking for drop offs and jumps which I was not confident on on my focus. The difference seems to be even if you land drops wrong, it makes them feel like nothing so takes all the fear away.
Loving the Bosch Emtb mode. Seems to give 35-40 miles on the 750w battery with lots of climbing. I’ve got used to it after the Shimano systems and enjoy the reactive nature of it. Also I’m loving the over run feature, it’s actually really important with the bottom bracket being quite low and having to be more careful with pedal strikes. Being able to give half a turn and let the motor kick you over obstacles really helps get around the issue.
Brakes are still great, love the grips, stem and bar combo. Missing the 2.8 rear tyre from my focus, allowed me to run much lower pressures without rim dings but enjoying the sharpness it seems to give. The tyre combo is fantastic, love the assegai at the front and loving the bullet proof nature of the dd rear dhr 2.
Glad I did the invisiframe, seems to be holding up really well. I’ve sliced up an old RRP front mud guard to use at the rear to protect the mud and rock shelf the bike has which seems to be working well.
Someone mentioned the plastic skid guard at the bottom rubs the bottom of the down tube. I added extra frame protection to protect the carbon but heard a funny creaking the other day (bike has been deadly silent so far) turns out it was dirt caught between the plastic and the wrap which had worn through the wrap. I’ve now added a piece of sticky foam padding which hopefully will help stop it rubbing through again.
I’ve swapped the Deore mech out for SRAM AXS GX upgrade kit. Runs beautifully with the Shimano cassette and chain and I’m loving the instant always perfect changes and lack of cables.
Also such a simple install 
Overall couldn’t be happier with the bike, just wish the weather was better as it’s constantly covered in mud
It really is a tremendous all rounder. As stated before, I was a medium on my previous focus jam 2 and even though the numbers say it was smaller and shorter, in reality I can’t feel any difference. In the saddle the bike feels shorter, out of the saddle I just feel like I’m in the middle of the bike with a nice slack front end which makes me a far better rider on the descents. The slacker head makes the steering slightly slower than I’m used to on fairly tame trails however once used to it it doesn’t take the fun away. I now find myself looking for drop offs and jumps which I was not confident on on my focus. The difference seems to be even if you land drops wrong, it makes them feel like nothing so takes all the fear away.
Loving the Bosch Emtb mode. Seems to give 35-40 miles on the 750w battery with lots of climbing. I’ve got used to it after the Shimano systems and enjoy the reactive nature of it. Also I’m loving the over run feature, it’s actually really important with the bottom bracket being quite low and having to be more careful with pedal strikes. Being able to give half a turn and let the motor kick you over obstacles really helps get around the issue.
Brakes are still great, love the grips, stem and bar combo. Missing the 2.8 rear tyre from my focus, allowed me to run much lower pressures without rim dings but enjoying the sharpness it seems to give. The tyre combo is fantastic, love the assegai at the front and loving the bullet proof nature of the dd rear dhr 2.
Glad I did the invisiframe, seems to be holding up really well. I’ve sliced up an old RRP front mud guard to use at the rear to protect the mud and rock shelf the bike has which seems to be working well.
Someone mentioned the plastic skid guard at the bottom rubs the bottom of the down tube. I added extra frame protection to protect the carbon but heard a funny creaking the other day (bike has been deadly silent so far) turns out it was dirt caught between the plastic and the wrap which had worn through the wrap. I’ve now added a piece of sticky foam padding which hopefully will help stop it rubbing through again.
I’ve swapped the Deore mech out for SRAM AXS GX upgrade kit. Runs beautifully with the Shimano cassette and chain and I’m loving the instant always perfect changes and lack of cables.
Overall couldn’t be happier with the bike, just wish the weather was better as it’s constantly covered in mud
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I rode the 180mm for a few hours this afternoon. I’ll be going back to the 170mm.
The 180mm works well for super steep stuff but anything else it’s too unsettled / unbalanced Vs stock, and I struggled to weight the front end without a lot of body language over the bars.
Was a good experiment but I far prefer the 170 stock.
The 180mm works well for super steep stuff but anything else it’s too unsettled / unbalanced Vs stock, and I struggled to weight the front end without a lot of body language over the bars.
Was a good experiment but I far prefer the 170 stock.
He said he did...
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Tried 10mm and then 15mm lower.
Happy Friday
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After a 48 hour period of doubting whether I should go for the Orbea Wild so I can buy from a bricks and mortar local bike shop I'm firmly back in the Canyon Strive:ON camp! I've been reading the Orbea Wild thread and there was enough stories and posts about frame quality finish that I thought it deserved a trip to my local Orbea dealer and see if the bikes in the shop look ok. TBH the finish was ok, a solid 7/10 but no where near good enough for me to be happy with my purchase if I went for the Wild.
I'm glad to be back....
I'm glad to be back....
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