120 Nm update for the Bosch CX and CX Race Announced

Tested today on my usual climbs, new behavior is amazing, traction and power dilvery is extra smooth and controlled. Despite all problems with installation - the result is really impressive. I've done all climbs which i didn't like before cause of Motocross chance with ease.
 
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How's the battery life on it? I'm on 840 and despite amazing screen on 850, battery life is to short for my liking. I'd always have to be 100% charged before a day long trip
I’ll have to report back after a ride. I just got it connected this morning. Next ride is tomorrow if I can break from work long enough or Saturday if that doesn’t happen. The battery is supposed to last longer, but can’t confirm. It is SIGNIFICANTLY smaller than the 840 in overall size, but the screen is almost as big as the 840.
 
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Finally got the update. Worked with pivot and they had to reset their approval and it finally worked.

Definitely feels faster. I don’t notice any drop off on assistance or power with speed. I’m almost never under 9 mph, but I did some tests from a stop. It is fast and controlled.

Biggest thing I noticed. I’m consistently getting assistance to 19.6 instead of 18.7 on my garmin! Still haven’t managed to get the garmin connected, but I expect that has to do with my beta enrollment. Need to reset it.
 
I went for a ride after I installed it yesterday, to be honest, can't tell the difference :ROFLMAO:
I rarely ride in turbo as I find it feels and rides nye on the same as emtb+, so configured the custom riding modes for 120nm in turbo only and going up some tech climbs switching between emtb+ and turbo I couldn't tell the difference, maybe the 120nm is more noticeable from a standing start on a climb?

But then again my avg watts looking from the flow app was 280w and cadence was 81 so I was gunning it regardless
 
Thats strange i already have the 750w and i havent done the update yet (y)
My 750w came with the 100nm update .
Sorry, your right, was already 750w. Ended up deleting Cache on App, then reconnecting, did this a few times and the 120nm appeared, wasn't clear I had updated it to be honest. Will get a ride this weekend and see what it's like. Thanks
 
Still no update in Sunny South Africa unless someone can advise otherwise, I've tried all the uninstalling and reinstalling but there is no update available.
 
Still SOL on my Pivot Shuttle AM. Looking at the Shuttle AM FB group, it looks like no one has managed to get the 120 nm update. We have all done the initial update and then uninstalled/reinstalled (wouldn't be surprised if I have done it 15 times) and there is no secondary update banner. Pivot has been talking to me about this, but I think they are unaware of the steps, or at least the customer service rep I am interacting with.
I updated mine at tuesday around 7:0 pm.
Had the same issue with the 120 NM not avaliable.
Tried all things with reinstall and so on with an Iphone and a Samsung. Nothing worked. Then i saw a Bosch Video that said you have to wait up to 24h then come back in the app navigate to setting/components/drivetrain and then you will have a blue banner that allows you the secound update step for the 120 NM. So i tried it again next day. At 5 pm it didn't work. But exactly that 24 hours later around 7 pm there was the banner at the drive untit Tab and i could do the last step. Very stupid this procedure.
 
Still no update in Sunny South Africa unless someone can advise otherwise, I've tried all the uninstalling and reinstalling but there is no update available.
If you are having this issue, you need to reach out to the manufacturer. I talked to pivot on Monday and they said it should work, but they were hearing it wasn’t. Finally yesterday they managed to reset the approval in the Bosch database and that’s what made it work. There was someone from pivot communicating back-and-forth with me on a Facebook group as soon as he said, they figured it out. It worked. I had deleted the app so many times I felt like I was going crazy.
 
Is there any way to turn this stupid trick counter notifications off? I don't need my bike beeping to tell what I did. It’s super annoying.
I had to do this on the bike! Went into settings on the tiny screen, turned off tricks and also turned off sounds.
 
I just bought a Pivot Shuttle Ampd. Thankfully, it has the Avinox S2 motor so I can say goodbye to Bosch!
I still have my Yeti LTE and am stuck dealing with the 2.0 software update nightmare. i am in the 24 hr waiting period to receive the secondary prompt to again attempt the update for the 5th time. What a joke.
I hope thing go smoother for you Pivot /Bosch owners. Patients required!
 
It's worrying how bad Bosch are at doing these updates though, doesn't inspire confidence...

That said, I did a quick loop today in turbo 120Nm +2 +2, does feel like a nice little boost. I have been riding almost exclusively in emtb+ 100nm 750w since the last update. Previously, turbo was only a slight increase over emtb+, now turbo at 120Nm it feels like a full assistance level above.

The update reset my emtb+ mode, going back down to it at the end of the ride the bike felt like a slog, couldn't believe it, I thought I was in 85Nm 600w, but no. Turns out it was the dynamics and assistance that were set to zero while I had them at +2 +2 before, changed that and the bike felt much livelier. Almost made me wonder if those settings don't have more impact than the NM one...

Anyway, good to have the turbo maxed out, but will probably stick to emtb+ for 90% of my riding as I get predictable range out of it. Almost emptied my 600Wh in 23km and 850m climbing with 120 turbo, just over an hour...
 
I went for a ride after I installed it yesterday, to be honest, can't tell the difference :ROFLMAO:
I rarely ride in turbo as I find it feels and rides nye on the same as emtb+, so configured the custom riding modes for 120nm in turbo only and going up some tech climbs switching between emtb+ and turbo I couldn't tell the difference, maybe the 120nm is more noticeable from a standing start on a climb?

But then again my avg watts looking from the flow app was 280w and cadence was 81 so I was gunning it regardless

I think people forget the extra power/assist is under 15kph - so it will help on slow techy climbs but fast riding will be pretty much the same.

I have yet to test it properly as my local bike park is absolutely flat. Need to get out on something climby to give it a go
 
It's worrying how bad Bosch are at doing these updates though, doesn't inspire confidence...

That said, I did a quick loop today in turbo 120Nm +2 +2, does feel like a nice little boost. I have been riding almost exclusively in emtb+ 100nm 750w since the last update. Previously, turbo was only a slight increase over emtb+, now turbo at 120Nm it feels like a full assistance level above.

The update reset my emtb+ mode, going back down to it at the end of the ride the bike felt like a slog, couldn't believe it, I thought I was in 85Nm 600w, but no. Turns out it was the dynamics and assistance that were set to zero while I had them at +2 +2 before, changed that and the bike felt much livelier. Almost made me wonder if those settings don't have more impact than the NM one...

Anyway, good to have the turbo maxed out, but will probably stick to emtb+ for 90% of my riding as I get predictable range out of it. Almost emptied my 600Wh in 23km and 850m climbing with 120 turbo, just over an hour...

They have to roll them out, as do many other companies using apps with 3rd party brands associated(bike brands for example)
Pivot had an issue at their end and wouldnt let a heap update.

Completely normal. in future if you're so impatient, just side load via aptoide etc.
 
Thought I'd check for the update before I ride this weekend, (wasnt available the other day, haven't deleted the app or removed the bike or any other hack as such) just updated and given access to 120nm straight away, changed turbo to 120nm and 750w. be interesting to see the difference, I normally ride emtb+ at 85nm
 
I still don't have the update available. I've upgraded the app, removed it numerous times - still nothing. Orbea Gen 5 motor??
Any ideas....
Same here, or at least very similar.

I have a Radon DEFT 10.0 800 2025 with the Bosch Performance Line CX Gen 5 motor. I also retrofitted a Kiox 400C. The normal system update is installed, the Flow app is up to date, but the blue banner for the Performance Upgrade 2.0 / 120 Nm option still does not appear. Not after 24 hours, not after 36 hours, and now basically the whole week has passed.

I contacted Radon directly. Their answer was that the update currently does not work properly on all models and that they are in contact with Bosch to assess the issue. They also said this was not known to them before Bosch released the update, and they currently cannot give a timeline.

So from my point of view this does not look like a simple “delete and reinstall the app” problem. It sounds more like a manufacturer/Bosch rollout, model approval, backend mapping, or bike-specific activation issue.

For your Orbea, I would probably ask Orbea directly:

  1. Is your exact model officially approved for Bosch Performance Upgrade 2.0?
  2. Is the 120 Nm option already enabled for your model in Bosch/Rider/Flow backend?
  3. Are they aware of rollout problems with some Gen 5 bikes?
  4. Is there anything the dealer can check, or is it purely Bosch/manufacturer-side?
Very frustrating, because technically the bikes seem to have the right motor, but the rollout seems much less clean than Bosch made it sound.
 
I have to say, the whole Performance Upgrade 2.0 rollout is becoming quite disappointing.

I fully understand that the bike manufacturers have to approve or configure the exact values for each model. That part is fair. But at the same time, Bosch cannot completely hide behind the OEMs here. Bosch itself advertises the smart system as a connected ecosystem used by more than 100 eBike brands. If that is the selling point, then the integration quality across those brands is also part of the Bosch product experience.

Right now, the user experience feels anything but premium. App update, bike update, blue banner, no blue banner, wait 24 hours, wait 36 hours, remove the bike from the garage, add it again, reinstall the app, ask the bike brand, the bike brand asks Bosch. This is not exactly what I would expect from the market leader in 2026. It feels more like debugging a half-finished beta than activating an official software feature on a modern premium eMTB.

And it is not just about whether somebody “needs” 120 Nm. That is the wrong discussion in my opinion. The issue is trust, transparency and execution. If Bosch announces a major update, promotes it heavily, and presents it as something you can activate through the Flow app, then it should be clear, reliable and almost idiot-proof. At the moment it is not.

There are also some strategic questions around the update itself. The 600% support being limited to low speeds, the 750 W ceiling, the manufacturer-dependent torque limits, the delayed rollout of Extended Boost adjustment and Drivetrain Tensioner, and the new fast charger only coming later in the year all make the package feel a bit fragmented. Some of these things may have good technical or regulatory reasons, but from a customer perspective it still feels slow and overly complicated.

The comparison with newer systems such as Avinox is hard to ignore. Avinox is not perfect either, of course, and long-term reliability still has to be proven. But the direction is obvious: more integrated software, higher peak performance, app-driven features, and even drivetrain-related functions such as SRAM Eagle Transmission support. Whether one likes the power race or not, customers and OEMs are clearly watching this very closely.

That is why I think Bosch should take this rollout much more seriously. This is not only a Radon, Orbea, Cube, Canyon or Trek issue. It is a Bosch reputation issue. If major brands can already advertise the 120 Nm upgrade prominently while other owners with technically compatible Gen 5 motors are stuck waiting for banners, backend approvals or unclear manufacturer mappings, the whole ecosystem starts to look inconsistent.

For me personally, this has been a very frustrating experience. I bought into the Bosch smart system because I expected stability, maturity and professional support. Instead, I am now sitting here for days trying to get a supposedly simple software update to appear, while the manufacturer says they are in contact with Bosch and cannot give a timeline.

I still like the Bosch system in many ways. But this rollout does not inspire confidence. Bosch needs to communicate more clearly, support the OEMs better and make the activation process much more robust. Otherwise the market will not wait politely. It will simply move on.
 
Bosch is slowly starting to get on my nerves as well. This feels almost identical to last year’s 100 Nm rollout — same confusion, same vague communication, same endless “wait a bit longer” story every single time.

At this point the whole process is becoming unnecessarily complicated and messy. One bike gets the update immediately, another technically compatible Gen 5 bike is stuck waiting for banners, backend approvals, OEM confirmations or app voodoo. Meanwhile Bosch keeps heavily advertising the feature as part of the Smart System ecosystem.

And honestly, I’m getting tired of all the regulatory and “users don’t need more power” talk from Bosch. If that was truly the philosophy, they would not be marketing 120 Nm, 600% support and Race-like performance upgrades in the first place. You cannot advertise huge performance gains on one side and then lecture users about why they supposedly do not need them on the other.
 
I have Trek RAIL+ and both performance updates (original 1.0, 100Nm and 2.0, 120Nm) went smoothly, no need for deleting the Flow app (Android) or emptying the cache. However, in both cases update was not available the day they said it will be, I had to wait for 1-2 days. I am totally fine with this, but they should simply tell that it is a phased roll-out and when the update is available at latest - seems like ~5 days after the initial release. Of course, it would be nicer if they could handle the release properly, but at least communicating it properly would save a lot of frustration.

Regarding the performance, I am very happy with the latest 120Nm update as I ride pretty technical terrain with low cadence and that's where the torque makes the biggest difference. And as others already told, if you want 600% Assistance, you have to set assistance to +5, I typically use Dynamic setting between 0...-2 for technical single track use.
 
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It would be interesting to see some concrete information for the number of Bosch e-mtbs undergoing the update over others that everybody is comparing it to.

Without that, opinions on whether it’s a successful rollout or not are moot, regardless of the self selecting sample on here who have had issues (or not).
 
If you are on Android just use APKMirror and you will get the update installed and running in 5 minutes.

The issue is that along with the motor firmware update Bosch are also updating the UI which means that the entire app has to be replaced. I'm guessing that is why you have again two updates, first is the UI which then downloads the firmware.
 
Bosch is slowly starting to get on my nerves as well. This feels almost identical to last year’s 100 Nm rollout — same confusion, same vague communication, same endless “wait a bit longer” story every single time.

At this point the whole process is becoming unnecessarily complicated and messy. One bike gets the update immediately, another technically compatible Gen 5 bike is stuck waiting for banners, backend approvals, OEM confirmations or app voodoo. Meanwhile Bosch keeps heavily advertising the feature as part of the Smart System ecosystem.
I can understand your frustration and I think it is ridiculous to allow the bike manufacturer the option to decide if the lights or power ports etc. should be activated, there should be more settings available in the Flow app. for that. On the other hand though I do see a case for the bike manufacturer to have a say (though maybe not the final say) on the implementation of updates and retrofit upgrades, the PowerMore extender battery being too heavy for water the bottle mounts on some bikes being a good example, and increasing the power could cause drive train or other problems maybe. Should it be entirely down to the bike owner to decide, perhaps after severe warnings???? I'm not sure.:unsure:
I do believe Bosch could and should get a lot more "klug" about informing the bikes owner about what is going on, I assume it is the Flow app that is blocking the 2nd part of the update, pending the manufactures approval so why not display a message about that.
For example:-
"Part 1 of the Performance Power 2 update has been successfully installed. To complete and install Part 2 requires the approval of your bike's manufacturer. This normally can take up to 24 hours, if this message remains unchanged after that time please contact the bike manufacturer or your LBS"
Come Bosch that would really clarify a lot, it's not that difficult, you can improve this!
 
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