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Crestline RS 181.2 thread – builds, reviews, technical info
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That is one of the features of the Avinox… if you put in a iot SIM card you are able to use bunch of features including real time tracking, OTA updates, data syncing etc
It’s such a small screw using a heat gun would heat up the entire unit. Was thinking about maybe touching the screw head with a soldering iron for a second. Or maybe not F around and just bring it to someone that does this for a living
Mario Antony
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Have you used the correct tool?
I would definitely try with a JIS, at proper size, and press it (like a lot) + rotate (carefully).
The threads don't seemed to have had threadlock.
An alternative, e just to drill the head (CAREFULLY!) and remove the rest of the bolt once the cap is out with pliers (needle nose pliers)
bmwpowere36m3
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That's awesome
TBF most of those KOMS include lots of traversing/climbing, not strictly DH.... no surprise a bike with an Avinox M2S is going rip.
I lamented with my buddies, the most part, only a few of us are actively chasing MTB KOMs at one of our local spots... super fun to win/lose/win. However we're all on Shimano/Bosch equipped bikes. Once someone gets an Avinox, game over.
Mario Antony
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Change the KOM trail, to make only DH, or having a technical climbThat's awesome
TBF most of those KOMS include lots of traversing/climbing, not strictly DH.... no surprise a bike with an Avinox M2S is going rip.
I lamented with my buddies, the most part, only a few of us are actively chasing MTB KOMs at one of our local spots... super fun to win/lose/win. However we're all on Shimano/Bosch equipped bikes. Once someone gets an Avinox, game over.
Definitely had blue thread lock on the screw that came out.
An easy out is a drill bit with reverse threads on it. It goes into a t-handle or a drill on low speed then into the stripped hole in the top of the screw head and you twist it out. It’s easy, hence the name “easy out”. You can get them at any hardware store or on amazon. They come in various sizes and they’re pretty cheap too. But obviously your call.It’s such a small screw using a heat gun would heat up the entire unit. Was thinking about maybe touching the screw head with a soldering iron for a second. Or maybe not F around and just bring it to someone that does this for a living
Easy out set on Amazon
TBF, I said “the bike rips”. The bike includes the motor. It means the whole package is fast, up and down. I never specified DH only or it’s all me. So yes the bike including the motor are responsible for those KOM’s, along with a little help from me. But, on the actual Luge DH segment, I was still I was only 3 seconds off my PR, on the second ride. But that is a very popular segment and a lot of really really fast guys do it, (I’ve seen and met Ryan Pinkerton and Brian Lopes there). But I’m way past my prime and there’s no way I’ll be getting a KOM on that segment. But my PR of 3:17, (153rd all time out of 2,473 and my 3:20 from yesterday is 27th out of 535 so far this year) is not too shabby for a 60yr old geezer. But my whole point was, the bike rips, look what I did with it.That's awesome
TBF most of those KOMS include lots of traversing/climbing, not strictly DH.... no surprise a bike with an Avinox M2S is going rip.
I lamented with my buddies, the most part, only a few of us are actively chasing MTB KOMs at one of our local spots... super fun to win/lose/win. However we're all on Shimano/Bosch equipped bikes. Once someone gets an Avinox, game over.
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bmwpowere36m3
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I meant any segments which include enough traverse or climb will be dominated by whoever has the most powerful motor and is reasonably fit.... sure they'll be nuances of how technical or specific segment is. Its no longer purely the fitness and skill of the rider.
Yes, you can focus on only DH runs/segments too.
Mario Antony
Active member
Personally I don't focus on anything, because trails are two way, meaning I can catch someone uphill (trail runners/hikers/etc), while charging DH.
Nothing like an actual Race to reset what we think we can or cannot do.
This is not a "lesson" or anything, and don't assume I ride slow.
I ride the speed I feel confortable and have some safety margin. Too many bolts and plates for Kudos or Virtual Prizes
First off, this bike rips! Like, it absolutely fucking sends. I am just so hyped. However, coming off a EP8 the assist levels on the M2S motor are just too powerful for me to feel like I am getting any type of workout. Once this novelty had worn off, I have been toying with additional custom modes to help tone down the assistance levels- which are a great feature of this platform!
Doing some digging, I came across this post in an Amflow FB group where a guy made a Excel file for rider weights and listed the settings for various factory modes with options for “long range,” “daily settings,” and “power settings” and the respective details for the 4 modes (assist level - max. watts - max. Nm) as well as additional information on usage and settings.
I haven't used these yet, but I plan on trying it out today. This will be my 5th ride. I have the 800w battery and find myself limited by the range on every ride so far. I have been getting in the wheelhouse of 25miles and 4500-5000'- which is awesome- but isn't enough for truly long days in the saddle. Anyhow- here's the link!
Doing some digging, I came across this post in an Amflow FB group where a guy made a Excel file for rider weights and listed the settings for various factory modes with options for “long range,” “daily settings,” and “power settings” and the respective details for the 4 modes (assist level - max. watts - max. Nm) as well as additional information on usage and settings.
I haven't used these yet, but I plan on trying it out today. This will be my 5th ride. I have the 800w battery and find myself limited by the range on every ride so far. I have been getting in the wheelhouse of 25miles and 4500-5000'- which is awesome- but isn't enough for truly long days in the saddle. Anyhow- here's the link!
That's awesome
TBF most of those KOMS include lots of traversing/climbing, not strictly DH.... no surprise a bike with an Avinox M2S is going rip.
I lamented with my buddies, the most part, only a few of us are actively chasing MTB KOMs at one of our local spots... super fun to win/lose/win. However we're all on Shimano/Bosch equipped bikes. Once someone gets an Avinox, game over.
Not a dig at all of the KOM's, good job for sure.
But with average speeds over 20mph UPHILL, yah, you are really only competing against other M2s', a very rare motor at this point. The ones with 700wh batteries will dominate next because they can maintain that power for longer.
Just my opinion, no one is going to set a DH KOM (in very competitive SoCal of all places!) on 2.8 trail tires and Berd wheels.
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polymathic
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@Rizzle Thanks for sharing the FB page. I was wondering, too, about modes and settings.
What mode are you on when you get 4500-5000 ft? So far, I'm getting 5000 ft in trail mode. Then I created a Levo setting that mimics my Gen 3 Levo trail mode, and that gets me 6000 ft.
On the topic of traverse and climbs... I got a bunch of KOMs on those, but that really means nothing to me. Pure DH time where the motor is not the advantage but the actual bike is the advantage is what's interesting. I'm get 5-6th overall on classic DH here on leaderboards of 300 eBikers, and I'm 55. Some of these runs don't require any pedaling. It's not the motor that's great (though it is), it's the bike itself.
The Crestline is a great MTB, not just a great e-MTB .
What mode are you on when you get 4500-5000 ft? So far, I'm getting 5000 ft in trail mode. Then I created a Levo setting that mimics my Gen 3 Levo trail mode, and that gets me 6000 ft.
On the topic of traverse and climbs... I got a bunch of KOMs on those, but that really means nothing to me. Pure DH time where the motor is not the advantage but the actual bike is the advantage is what's interesting. I'm get 5-6th overall on classic DH here on leaderboards of 300 eBikers, and I'm 55. Some of these runs don't require any pedaling. It's not the motor that's great (though it is), it's the bike itself.
The Crestline is a great MTB, not just a great e-MTB .
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I haven't used any of these modes yet, but will today. I made a "Bosch Mode" of 750w, 85nm that I primarily used before and it was PLENTY powerful. Too much, honestly.
I'm curious how this new setup with lowered power delivery improves range. I'll report back once I get a feel for it.
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TTEngineer
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I set trail mode to the same 750/85 on my first ride bike because I wanted to compare the range to my old bike. It's hard to calculate exactly but I'd call it like 25-30% more range than the 630 battery I had before, and it still feels far more powerful. I have also been playing with the minimum assistance and cont. assistance settings and those seem to have the most impact on the battery vs. outright lowering the max power setting.
Thanks for the content Rob! Such a sick interview. Makes me proud to support a guy like Troydon vs a big company.
Will you be dropping a ride review? Would love to hear your thoughts on the 180/DC/DC with bmb stem.
OT: We very well might look back in 25 years with Western Manufacturing and living standards in absolute shambles and wonder why we gave away all of our expertise and money away in pursuit of, 1300 watt e-bikes, cheaper goods, etc.
The West is run by Attorney's, the East by Engineers and the effects of this are becoming obvious.
They could have saved some R&D money and just followed me on Strava if they wanted to track me.
But for real… I’m pretty sure this version of the Avinox display does not have Apple find my, so this is the only way to keep tabs on my bike. Also, Im sure it’s nice to have more control over your bike without physically being next to it.
Btw the phone repair guy took it out in 3 seconds and had a bowl full of replacement screws that were a match.
John_likes_bikes
Well-known member
It's always interesting to see others settings and obviously to each their own when it comes to this stuff... my 2 cents, that is a lot of detuning. You'll certainly get a lot of range though!
He assume 200watts for 5 min which isn't crazy by any means but a 210lbs person sustaining that is in relatively good cardio shape (unless you're doing that to pure exhaustion) so I guess his numbers aren't crazy.
I'm 85 kg and run my daily settings almost exactly at his "power" settings for 95 kg and max out at about 6700 ft/ 25 miles. That usually gets me 2.5 hours of riding which for me is about the max available as a weekend warrior.
Any who... I enjoy looking at this stuff and trying different things to maximize my ride.
Speed_GeauxT
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Man… LFG 
600wh rh2
600wh rh2
Do you have an actual link to the spread sheet or have the spread sheet you can email? I don't Facebook.
breakfasttaco93
New Member
what weight are you / what settings are you running?
I know the flatter DPC100 without the 4G data has it but I think the other 2 do not
His approach is to treat the modes like an old school front chainring, and shifting it depending on the type of incline you are experiencing. At the end of the day, you can leave it in turbo and have tons of support-basically Trail mode + on the current settings- which is plenty for any remotely fit person. Way more than boost on the EP8 I came off of.
At the end of the day, there's only a couple of people I ride with that have the new M2s and only a few others that have the M1. Most are on Bosch or EP8. Being able to stick with them without driving the pace and being 'that guy' on the ride is an added benefit.
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