Newoldskool
Member
Not sure what the 2 extra plugs are for?
Starting to assemble frame. Need a little help. Thx
Starting to assemble frame. Need a little help. Thx
New CEF69 bafang m510 and bafang m560 and cef50 bafang m820 frames
temon10
Well-known member
throtlle and lamp. no need for just tape it for waterproof
Newoldskool
Member
What is that wrap you used. Looks very clean
Nice looking bike!!
From the other hand the build does not make any sense.
170mm enduro frame on Bardzo and Mezcal tires, XC bars and no dropper post. Elite wheels with thin 28 spokes.
Way too "light" build for any enduro or natural trails. Too much frame travel for efficient XC fast runs.
Exactly my thoughts as well, this build is ok for a CEF50 / M820 light setup for XC but the enduro frame and motor combo is kind of wasted with this light build. Charly would better off advertising builds that align with the frameset so it doesnt confuse those with less experience who might go down the wrong path on the buying decision.
I have been told they are going to send me new link any day now. looks different to current and it should fit X2 Fox Float now
bigoldhills
Member
Looks like Charly's auto translate just failed : ) I'm about order the 69 with the updated link and a X2 shock so it looks like they have it sorted.
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Thanks mate i 3D printed it few weeks ago to test fit. It will clear now few mm with x2, still havnt riden my bike off road since built it last year. Because of this.
Green Leopard Print
New Member
Are you able to share the file they sent you or if not a screenshot of the linkages with a dimension or two?
I made a outline CAD of the rear kinematics and was wondering if the new linkage design affected it. I'm guessing the shock and the yoke was angled downwards a bit?
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I translated it wrong; when placing a new order, you have to say "updated for x2" and it will work for any shock absorber.
PM Email ill send you step file, Its not linkage attached to shock they changed other one
Green Leopard Print
New Member
Perfect thanks!
Grip'N'Rip
New Member
Here is my CEF69 build I just completed and the timing seems good with the whole Float X2 conversation firing back up. The Float X2 I have does clear my Large frame. It only clears by about a thick sheet of paper but if it fits it ships so I'm sending it. The bike as ridden including pedals and tire sealant weighed in at 23.2kg. I could probably save some weight with a better wheelset. This is my first ebike and I have only done a couple test rides. I need to get the suspension a little closer to dialed and wait on good trail condition to really test it out but so far no complaints.
CEF69 Large Frame with Bafang M560 and 835wh battery
Fox 38 forks (2025, 170 travel)
Fox Performance Elite Float X2 (2022, 205x60)
Shimano SLX shifter and cassette with an XT derailleur
Lewis LH4 brake set, with TRP rotors (203 front, 180 rear)
One up 180mm dropper and Carbon handlebar
Take off entry level Norco wheelset
Maxxis DHR2 with double down casing rear, and Vittoria Mazza front
CEF69 Large Frame with Bafang M560 and 835wh battery
Fox 38 forks (2025, 170 travel)
Fox Performance Elite Float X2 (2022, 205x60)
Shimano SLX shifter and cassette with an XT derailleur
Lewis LH4 brake set, with TRP rotors (203 front, 180 rear)
One up 180mm dropper and Carbon handlebar
Take off entry level Norco wheelset
Maxxis DHR2 with double down casing rear, and Vittoria Mazza front
Wallyza
Member
I now have about 250kms on my CEF69. Generally very happy with it. I have picked up a few issues.
1. The large frame does not accommodate the float x. I have had to move shock hardware spacers around to get it to work. Jean said she will quote on a new link when ready. I have pushed back as their diagrams clearly show it can accommodate a piggy-back shock. Sent her photos as well. We will see what the result is.
2. When I wash my bike something inside gets wet and the bike will not start up. I mentioned this and she said drying with a hairdryer works. All well and good until I get stuck on the mountain in the rain. I will open it up and see if I can sort it out. This needs to be mentioned to Bafang as it is an issue (other people have mentioned this to them).
3. This bike is not a mullet. I have 152mm cranks and have had numerous strikes. I have swopped out to a 29er and it runs perfectly. I mentioned to her that with the new link they should look at a flip chip to accommodate a mullet. Their solution is to run a 2.8 tyre.
Other than that, the bike is a beast. I ended up at just over 21.5kgs with a fairly burly build and it handles everything I have thrown at it so far. No issues (touch wood) with the M510 RS motor either. Smooth power delivery and no hiccups yet.
1. The large frame does not accommodate the float x. I have had to move shock hardware spacers around to get it to work. Jean said she will quote on a new link when ready. I have pushed back as their diagrams clearly show it can accommodate a piggy-back shock. Sent her photos as well. We will see what the result is.
2. When I wash my bike something inside gets wet and the bike will not start up. I mentioned this and she said drying with a hairdryer works. All well and good until I get stuck on the mountain in the rain. I will open it up and see if I can sort it out. This needs to be mentioned to Bafang as it is an issue (other people have mentioned this to them).
3. This bike is not a mullet. I have 152mm cranks and have had numerous strikes. I have swopped out to a 29er and it runs perfectly. I mentioned to her that with the new link they should look at a flip chip to accommodate a mullet. Their solution is to run a 2.8 tyre.
Other than that, the bike is a beast. I ended up at just over 21.5kgs with a fairly burly build and it handles everything I have thrown at it so far. No issues (touch wood) with the M510 RS motor either. Smooth power delivery and no hiccups yet.
bigoldhills
Member
Could you post an image up of your bike ?
Wallyza
Member
Will get some shots on my next ride.
Since others are doing writeups I will add my experience with the SZZS-69. I am now at almost 370miles (600KM). All of these miles have been in mullet mode setup as a 170/160 and 152 cranks. I have a small so the Float X does fit and clear fine on my bike. First, the positives. This bike is an absolute animal. There is nothing it cannot handle. It rides amazing and TBH I just cannot see paying $14k-$15k for another ebike where our bike will be as good if not better for half the money. It descends amazing, it climbs amazing. It is setting KOMs everywhere. Up, down and on the flats.
Some concerns and issues to pay attention to: Make sure to use blue lock tight on all pivots and let it set for 24-48 hours. With that said...you still need to 2x check all pivot bolts often! Make sure to check the cassette as well. My 12spd Sram cassette actually started to back out over time and it needs to be checked.
I agree with others....the bike needs a mullet flip chip and hopefully SZZS allows this option in the future. For those of you on the fence....get the shortest cranks (152.5) you can AND get a 36t chainring. Thank me later. IMO the solution to run a 2.6 tire for mullet is not acceptable. I don't want a balloon back there. It completely takes away the whole point of having a mullet.
I was new to the ebike world so I learned this....plug the charger into the wall first...THEN plug into the bike.
The headset IMO needs to be upgraded and I will probably do this. If even the littlest bit of water gets near it, it begins to squeak and then needs to be pulled and some grease added.
I also wish SZZS would add a cross brace on the seat stays. I think the power of this motor and the flex to the rear may contribute to some of the loosening of parts. I'm no expert here and it does not seem to effect the ride...just an observation.
Lastly...and this will take more time on the bike, but I want to see how the durability and the reliability of the frame holds up. So far so good but I think this will only come with time.
Hope this helps some of you.
Some concerns and issues to pay attention to: Make sure to use blue lock tight on all pivots and let it set for 24-48 hours. With that said...you still need to 2x check all pivot bolts often! Make sure to check the cassette as well. My 12spd Sram cassette actually started to back out over time and it needs to be checked.
I agree with others....the bike needs a mullet flip chip and hopefully SZZS allows this option in the future. For those of you on the fence....get the shortest cranks (152.5) you can AND get a 36t chainring. Thank me later. IMO the solution to run a 2.6 tire for mullet is not acceptable. I don't want a balloon back there. It completely takes away the whole point of having a mullet.
I was new to the ebike world so I learned this....plug the charger into the wall first...THEN plug into the bike.
The headset IMO needs to be upgraded and I will probably do this. If even the littlest bit of water gets near it, it begins to squeak and then needs to be pulled and some grease added.
I also wish SZZS would add a cross brace on the seat stays. I think the power of this motor and the flex to the rear may contribute to some of the loosening of parts. I'm no expert here and it does not seem to effect the ride...just an observation.
Lastly...and this will take more time on the bike, but I want to see how the durability and the reliability of the frame holds up. So far so good but I think this will only come with time.
Hope this helps some of you.
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bigoldhills
Member
Going to try 27.5 front and rear with a 180mm fork on a medium frame, 150mm cranks, 2.5 radial Muddy Marys front and rear, a 36t chainring with a 12 speed cassette
Not entirely sure how it’ll work out, but I’ve got a set of I9 Torch wheels and a pair of Bos Idyll single crown forks already, so I thought I might as well give it a go.
Could go mullet, but that’s another £1000 I’d rather not spend on top of the build at the moment. Just hope the pedal strikes aren’t too bad.
Not entirely sure how it’ll work out, but I’ve got a set of I9 Torch wheels and a pair of Bos Idyll single crown forks already, so I thought I might as well give it a go.
Could go mullet, but that’s another £1000 I’d rather not spend on top of the build at the moment. Just hope the pedal strikes aren’t too bad.
IMO the pedal strikes are going to really bad. The bike in full 29r goes from a respectable BB height of 345mm to a low of 330mm in mullet mode. If you go to a full 27.5 i think its going to be really low.
bigoldhills
Member
310mm ish with the 180mm fork... its a bit low but will give it a shot.
Green Leopard Print
New Member
As a head ups, nvcheeko has been working with Jean on a linkage that looks a little different than Grip'N'Rip's linkage and should clear the Float X2 cans a touch more. (Yoke that attaches to the shock would be the same but the rocker length is shorter.) A quick sketch looks like it increases the rear travel and puts a mullet to about stock geo.
Wallyza
Member
That would be really good if it does change the geo for a mullet. Rear travel is more than enough for me currently but extra never hurt either.
Puts a mullet to stock geo???? Really? This is incredible news if true. So we can have two links...one for full 29r mode and one for mullet similar to a Stumpjumper Evo. Do we know when this will be available?
Printing again now 50% infill, first one snapped when i got excited and sat on it, ill just take photos this time full compressed, its much shorter then previous which will change travel, not the easiest thing to fit but ill post some more maybe tomorrow.
thanks to Green Leopard show me designs i wanted to return favour and get this fitted and printed again ASAP
thanks to Green Leopard show me designs i wanted to return favour and get this fitted and printed again ASAP
WK0
New Member
I was talking to my salesperson about the new linkage and she sent me the attached photo. Sounds like they're pairing the new linkage with a new upper seatstay that has a bridge which should stiffen up the rear end a bit. I'll keep you all updated as I learn more but I'm going to try to order the new linkage/ upper seatstay asap
