Thanks for confirming OneUp and Crestline's get along ok!
Also thanks for the tips on the install I'll keep in mind, these cables can get fiddly and need to be caressed just right.
Pre-order starts next month - Next Crestline Avinox frame set
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Also thanks for the tips on the install I'll keep in mind, these cables can get fiddly and need to be caressed just right.
Now I am inspired(er),
Been wanting to try out the WTB Solano short nose saddle and see how I like it. Just scored a deal with this extra 15% promo for $175 for the carbon rail version to save weight way up top which will help the handling a notch more!
Just dropped 98 grams over my old saddle in the process, and this is not the SL version even.. hope I love this thing!!
Edit: I got the Medium size despite the screen shot, my rear is not quite that large..
Been wanting to try out the WTB Solano short nose saddle and see how I like it. Just scored a deal with this extra 15% promo for $175 for the carbon rail version to save weight way up top which will help the handling a notch more!
Just dropped 98 grams over my old saddle in the process, and this is not the SL version even.. hope I love this thing!!
Edit: I got the Medium size despite the screen shot, my rear is not quite that large..
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This thread is slowly turning into Weight Weenies. Maybe we should just move the whole discussion to
https://weightweenies.starbike.com/
This thread is slowly turning into Weight Weenies. Maybe we should just move the whole discussion to https://weightweenies.starbike.com/
Haa!
Sorry for all the components lust.. did you ever find out what size frame you prefer to ride on?!
TTEngineer
New Member
I'm interested in how Howler treats you. I'm almost 100% sure that they just drop ship everything, because there are products on their site that I can not find anywhere that they claim are "in stock". Also, just about everything is on sale there too. another classic drop ship site ploy.
As far as OneUp goes and the VPP tunnel, my plan was to run the stiffest cable I can find that will fit to help reduce kinking.
I don't have a Crestie, but I have lots of OneUp droppers and just got a new AXS that's going on a new Wild.
Sure, the cable routing and linkage is a thing, but no one has the low stack height of the OneUp V3 but also importantly, you can shim them down, something you can't do with an AXS. Which would be an awfully expensive error if for instance I miscalculated that I can clear the 200mm AXS on my new Wild.
I have wondered though, could Troyden just open up the bottom of the seat tube entirely making it a pass-through allowing cables and linkage to hang down a bit getting another 5-25mm of dropper insertion, and probably better cable actuation to boot? Of course, then the dropper cable would need to be exposed and reenter the frame somewhere.
Heckler Sb130
Member
Well I don’t have last years so I’m getting this years.
Nah, I was leaning towards RH2, but the short dropper insertion kinda turns me off from buying the frame altogether. I don't wanna compromise on such an expensive build. I'll hold off for now and see what the owners say after April's delivery.... did you ever find out what size frame you prefer to ride on?!
Full disclosure, I had ordered this saddle already but forgot to add it to my weight totals above. Placed the order with howler actually March 4th, received March 7th. Boom, done!
First time with them, but they "delivered" the goods as seen on my dinner table!!
One tip I'd share with Crestie owners is that the SQLabs saddles have the rails very close to the seating surface. In my case, this always allows me an extra 10mm dropper post at a minimum.
Also, the most comfortable saddles for me but choose wisely.
Also, the most comfortable saddles for me but choose wisely.
I can confirm, it's hard as a wooden plank to the touch but super comfy when you pick the right width for your sit bones.
I went with the Wolf Tooth Resolve V3 because it has the lowest max insertion depth that I could find for a RH3. It worded out to be ~25mm shorter stack when slammed vs the One Up V3 210mm. For me at 6' and 33' inseam, the 210 is a touch long- so this will be perfect, I hope...
It should be very close to fully slammed and the WT stack is only higher by a couple mm than OU. Only drawback I can see for the VPP folks seeking max height and minimal stack when slammed is it is more expensive by about $80 USD. I think it might be lighter too. I forget.
Good point, a low seat stack and a low drop dropper could make up some mm pretty quickly! I think the OneUp is also known to drop as low(er?) as anything out there.
I did have my eye's on those SQlabs, look very different to what I am used to but seems to be a very thought out design and maybe the sweet spot for pure comfort for some. And I hear they are "LIGHT WEIGHT" too!!
The WTB Solano comes on the new Commencal DJI and I want to try this smaller footprint out for myself for easier maneuvering and more clearance.
This will only be my second saddle purchased for emtb. Replaced my oem with an Ergon SM E Mountain Pro and have loved that thing more than any saddle ever.
Only one way to find out if I like something better though. I figure the new frame will be a good shot to try out the new saddle, but the Ergon will be on standby..
For those interested: This puts the estimated build weight at 39.1 pounds without the carbon frame.
I did have my eye's on those SQlabs, look very different to what I am used to but seems to be a very thought out design and maybe the sweet spot for pure comfort for some. And I hear they are "LIGHT WEIGHT" too!!
The WTB Solano comes on the new Commencal DJI and I want to try this smaller footprint out for myself for easier maneuvering and more clearance.
This will only be my second saddle purchased for emtb. Replaced my oem with an Ergon SM E Mountain Pro and have loved that thing more than any saddle ever.
Only one way to find out if I like something better though. I figure the new frame will be a good shot to try out the new saddle, but the Ergon will be on standby..
For those interested: This puts the estimated build weight at 39.1 pounds without the carbon frame.
the stack on the OU is ~2mm shorter than the WT. However, if you are running anything longer than 180 in RH3 you are not going to be slammed. Therefore insertion depth is what will get you more clearance than the 2mm stack height difference between the two brands. Close to an inch in my case!Good point, a low seat stack and a low drop dropper could make up some mm pretty quickly! I think the OneUp is also known to drop as low(er?) as anything out there.
I did have my eye's on those SQlabs, look very different to what I am used to but seems to be a very thought out design and maybe the sweet spot for pure comfort for some. And I hear they are "LIGHT WEIGHT" too!!
The WTB Solano comes on the new Commencal DJI and I want to try this smaller footprint out for myself for easier maneuvering and more clearance.
This will only be my second saddle purchased for emtb. Replaced my oem with an Ergon SM E Mountain Pro and have loved that thing more than any saddle ever.
Only one way to find out if I like something better though. I figure the new frame will be a good shot to try out the new saddle, but the Ergon will be on standby..
For those interested: This puts the estimated build weight at 39.1 pounds without the carbon frame.
Damn, I never considered this.
Not an issue on my incoming Wild as the OU 210 & the 200mm AXS both insert fully, but definitely an issue on the Crestie. Good freakin catch!
JJ503
Member
Do we know if a 180 OneUp can be slammed with the RH3? Curious where a rider in the 5’11”-6’ range sets their OU 180mm- slammed or raised 1-2”?
The WT may open the door for a 200. Unfortunately I’m longer in the torso vs inseam, so I’m questionable.
180 OU can be slammed.
A XX derailleur would be lighter and just as reliable. Is money dictating why you’re choosing an XO?
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FrogSkunk
Member
I spent some bread at Howler and had the goodies faf. Ordered 3/2 and took delivery 3/6. Hard to beat with 15% off too. Not sure where it came from, but I’m in the middle of nowhere, NW Florida.
Oh, and a free park pass with my order. Too bad its a 12 hour drive. Maybe if I hit Bentonville this year….
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This is the deepest question I have pondered in quite some time, looking back now it's all so clear..
I was so focused on rotating mass with my wheelset I plum forgot all about unsprung weight, silly me!!
Adding to cart.
XX only 12g lighter…This is the deepest question I have pondered in quite some time, looking back now it's all so clear..
I was so focused on rotating mass with my wheelset I plum forgot all about unsprung weight, silly me!!
Adding to cart.
SRAM XX & X0 Eagle AXS Transmission – Find Weight Here!
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sethimus
😠 Donald Duck 😠
the x0/xx cage is less sturdy. if you really use your ebike, you have a gx derailleur for its strength, the x0 cassette for its weight and the xx chain to keep both running for a long time.
John_likes_bikes
Well-known member
FWIW, I've used all models of T type derailleur and in my experience the XX (not SL version) performs substantially better than lower tier models with not difference in durability. XO and GX performed the same for me.
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Dont worry, I didnt pickup an XX! I was actually being sarcastic, as I thought that question for me was surely sarcasm as well. Weird when strangers on the web are asking if you are having money trouble when purchasing a $15k bike!!XX only 12g lighter…
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I am pretty sure the good old mechanical is the lightest and most affordable option still if that is the game which I think we all agreed it is not. I took an Amflow for a demo though, and that damn auto shifting without pedaling got me before my first ride was done!
The ultimate question (not really) - Why XO then? Seems to be the goldilocks group.. Not to heavy, not too pricey, and I will gladly admit that I am keen to it's bad ass black tones to match my raw carbon!!
Ok all, I actually did not buy the lightest weight parts I could at every turn for the record, I was simply asking about the weight of the frame since I was stoked seeing this thing is going to be 5+ lbs lighter than my current bike as I totaled up the weights.
My build is curated for how and where I like to ride, and the components I simply am drawn towards accordingly. I am very active in the saddle or when standing, and appreciate sharp nimble handling. Shedding weight enhances everything I do on the bike to a degree (accelerating, braking, changing directions, jumping, etc), but I also need the ebike to keep on going through the rough, really fastly!
So I did my best to source components that will strike the balance of high performance I desire by shedding weight on rotating mass, unsprung weight, and weight up high like the dropper, bars, and seat which I can feel improvements in performance. And of course, they got to be SEXY in my eye's too!!
When I totaled up all the parts other than the carbon frame and saw a 39.1 pound total I wanted to get some confirmations on the frame weight to get more accurate.
Reached out to the "T-man" and believe it or not he told me he does not have the frame weights for these things. Does the last gram matter? Of course not, this girl is BEAST already!
Do I want to know how much my mystery bike is going to weigh? Hell yeah I do!!
In what aspect? Rob tested them and said he couldn't tell the difference. I suspect the higher end chain is going to be what could make things smoother due to the full chrome plating. As a Shimano guy it was a hard pill to swallow but I'm doing GX transmission with with the XX chain. Mostly since the Avinox already has integration in place, and the new Shimano has no clutch. The XX chain wasn't cheap @ $155 but I had similar experience with XTR chains lasting way longer which are also plated so I think it's worth it.
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In the same boat, I was ready to order the new di2 wireless stuff then saw the no clutch and no guarantee there's avinox integration (I heard it's happening at some point).
I cannot find any fundamental difference in shifting performance between any of them.
I'f I was building a bike, I'd go for the S1000 level mech (not sure it's available aftermarket).
The rest is superficial IMO.
I'f I was building a bike, I'd go for the S1000 level mech (not sure it's available aftermarket).
The rest is superficial IMO.
I would also love anyone's thoughts on the Flash. Currently running an Ohlins 38 on the 1st gen RS and it feels great. Trying to figure out if spending another $1,600 on a new intend fork would make that much of a difference over a newly rebuilt Ohlins 38...
John_likes_bikes
Well-known member
To keep it short, the GX has 2 very well-known issues: pogo pins breaking (I didn't experience this) and play in the frame mount causing inconsistent and rough shifting. XO wasn't any better with shifting consistency; it often needed resetting for no apparent reason. I could only guess why??? XX has been flawless for 9+ months. I've read reviews on all sides so YMMV, but have you seen how Rob is running his bars/stem these days... do you really trust a guy that likes that setup!?!?!?!?
