Blownoutrides
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Top of Boyscout??
2025 Norco Sight VLT CX
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Tone_Loc66
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Thanks I was pulling on the tab.
Spudley
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So was I at first. Almost broke it!
Blownoutrides
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54.7lbs w/ pedals (S4)
40 has a 190mm airspring (matches ATC of a 170 Zeb).
DH casing + Cushcore F/R
Will swap shock for a 65mm Arma when it gets here (borrowing the 60mm Vivid off my pedal bike). Also waiting on a TR41 rear wheel and a Kiox display.
Sized down. I'm 6'4" and the S4 has the same reach as my XL Dreadnought v2 (which I love). Whenever I go over 500 reach the front seems to wash in flat corners.
Super playful just hooning around the neighborhood. First ride tomorrow hopefully.
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psychonaut
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Dude, haha. What the Frankenstein.
Blownoutrides
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Anyone replace their chainring yet? Tried to mount a SRAM T-type XX for 55mm but turned out it's had way more offset than the one that came on the bike (?). Did not line up with idler.
Wish someone made a one piece titanium chainring for these motors. The two piece alum/steel affairs are bricks and aluminum just wouldn't last.
EDIT:
Looks like the sight/range vlt cx chainline is 52mm vs standard 55mm t-type chainline. Typically not a hard issue since chainring and cassette are far apart, but with the HP idler sitting directly above at 52mm there's no room for error.
So where do we find replacement chainrings?
Wish someone made a one piece titanium chainring for these motors. The two piece alum/steel affairs are bricks and aluminum just wouldn't last.
EDIT:
Looks like the sight/range vlt cx chainline is 52mm vs standard 55mm t-type chainline. Typically not a hard issue since chainring and cassette are far apart, but with the HP idler sitting directly above at 52mm there's no room for error.
So where do we find replacement chainrings?
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Blownoutrides
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You should see me.
psychonaut
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Why don't buy an other ebike more suitable for 190mm travel?
Blownoutrides
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It's suitable for sure. My V2 Dreadnought is set up 190/160 with a 40 and it's fantastic so the Norco should be epic.
Norco rates the sight/range frame for a 180mm fork (596mm ATC). This 40 is setup with a 190 airspring with crowns dropped 3mm to net a 586mm ATC and preserve the Range's 63.5 HTA.
The 40 is primarily for stiffness rather than travel, but the extra sure doesn't hurt.
Crestline would be an option if not for the long wait and potential DJI US customs issues. The other long travel options are 60lbs+ wallowy aluminum bricks. Done that already. Not interested.
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psychonaut
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How are coil shocks on this bike? Do you lose pop? Is it worth it?
bmwpowere36m3
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Given its intended for 52mm, I'd be surprised you'll find a DM T-type CR. Probably why they went with BCD and so they can alter the CR for Shimano or SRAM build options. Plus most options are aluminum anyway. The BCD type in steel will be the longest wearing for sure.
Blownoutrides
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Looks like SRAM sells different Gen 4 and Gen 5 Bosch ("DU38") chainrings. Can't tell if the DU38 version is a 52mm chainline or not as it isn't listed.
The only chainring I've come across that actually lists a 52mm chainline is the OChain spider. Spendy and heavy but I'm not not curious lol.
Bogdan_CH
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This might work :
www.ethirteen.com
Helix Core e*spec Chainring
Helix Core e*spec Direct Mount Chainrings feature our narrow-wide tooth profile, for reliable chain retention and an extra long wear life. Helix Core e*spec rings are cold-formed from steel and then heat-treated to provide excellent durability and toughness, all at a price that's easy on your...
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Spudley
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I was told not designed for dual crown and no warranty.
Did you confirm this first?
Blownoutrides
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Blownoutrides
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Quick shakedown lap before sunset. Dead quiet, smooth AF, and super nimble. Over the moon. Favorite bike yet by a mile.
Spudley
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Mums the word!Oops I better take it off. Please don't tell on me
I was gonna do that as well but decided it's capable enough...
Blownoutrides
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I'm heavy and tried a dual crown for the first time earlier this year on a whim and immediately decided I'm never going back. So much support, goes where you point it, eats bumps without flexing and binding up. Night and day.
If Norco cleared it for a 596mm ATC that means the head tube is strong enough. Side loading in a crash could theoretically be an issue. Might not be a bad idea to add more bumpers to spread the load out just in case.
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Zed. (Justin is short)
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The earlier gen range vlt is rated for twincrown, emailed Norco and had confirmation (180mm) and run Dorado pro forks on mine
Rich.
Would be cool if you posted the max angle you can turn the steering on that frame.
Blownoutrides
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Sick! I figure if there's a motor the added weight for functional stuff like coils and dual crown forks makes sense.The earlier gen range vlt is rated for twincrown, emailed Norco and had confirmation (180mm) and run Dorado pro forks on mine
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Rich.
I do feel like the 55lb mark is kind of a red line. My previous 60lb bike was a pig... don't want to revisit that world.
I'm perfectly happy with the range and power of the current 800wh Bosch system. At this point let's just start bringing the weight down with better battery tech. It would be rad if a DH spec ebike weighed 50lbs in five years instead of the 55lbs it weighs today.
I can honestly say I prefer the feel of this 55lb Norco emtb to my 40lb Forbidden pedal bike built with the same 160/190 suspension bits. Feels more planted but still nimble. Both are fun though... what a rad time to ride.
Spudley
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Yes the earlier was. The latter I've been told definitely isn't.The earlier gen range vlt is rated for twincrown, emailed Norco and had confirmation (180mm) and run Dorado pro forks on mine
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Zed. (Justin is short)
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if you look at the earlier (gen2) frame then it's sorta obvious as to its intended use, 1.5″ top & 1.8″ lower headstock bearings are huge compared to most other bikes
Rich.
Spudley
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Yes indexed. I just upgraded from the the Gen 2 which I still think was an amazing bulldozer! Still rate that thing highly!if you look at the earlier (gen2) frame then it's sorta obvious as to its intended use, 1.5″ top & 1.8″ lower headstock bearings are huge compared to most other bikes
Rich.
Blownoutrides
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Note that this is with a 48mm offset crown so the stock 52mm offset will turn a little further.
No real difference in steering angle between the Sight and the Dreadnought based on head tube width.
I've never hit full lock on trail FWIW. If the wheel gets turned that far I'm either off the bike or about to be
.On that note, doubled up on the steering bumpers to spread out the load. Cheap insurance.
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Blownoutrides
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Encouraging decent length ride on Thursday.
Managed 4 x 1,000' laps on my local in purple/emtb mode with 30% left in the tank. With a little extra time I could've theoretically squeezed in 6 laps which is one more than the previous Gen 4 Bosch / 750wh would allow.
Stoked.
Managed 4 x 1,000' laps on my local in purple/emtb mode with 30% left in the tank. With a little extra time I could've theoretically squeezed in 6 laps which is one more than the previous Gen 4 Bosch / 750wh would allow.
Stoked.
Blownoutrides
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Anyone hook up their AXS derailleur to the bike battery via this cord yet?
www.fanatikbike.com
Curious about:
-routing
-where to plug it in
-does dealer/shop need to enable
Thanks!
EDIT:
Welp, it works! No dealer activation required. You just plug it into the yellow/orange port on the motor under the plastic fairing.
Looking forward to not worrying about AXS battery charging (while simultaneously wondering if the irony is now officially too thick and I should just go ahead and install a cable derailleur already lol).
Looks like routing through derailleur cable port will work but likely requires at least partially dropping the motor to fish it around.
Saving that headache for later this evening.
AXS Extension Cord - Eagle Transmission
The extension cord is an optional item to power the Transmission derailleur by the main system battery instead of a separate AXS battery. The extension cord interfaces to the derailleurs AXS battery port and is designed to be internally routed through the frame directly to the drive unit. The...
www.fanatikbike.com
Curious about:
-routing
-where to plug it in
-does dealer/shop need to enable
Thanks!
EDIT:
Welp, it works! No dealer activation required. You just plug it into the yellow/orange port on the motor under the plastic fairing.
Looking forward to not worrying about AXS battery charging (while simultaneously wondering if the irony is now officially too thick and I should just go ahead and install a cable derailleur already lol).
Looks like routing through derailleur cable port will work but likely requires at least partially dropping the motor to fish it around.
Saving that headache for later this evening
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Blownoutrides
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Done. Routing through the chainstay/motor wasn't the easiest but managed it without needing to drop the motor.
psychonaut
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Has anyone a good tip for a cleaning tool that fits this link? It's always clogged up
venturavin
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Couldn't agree more with this. I find the hair-splitting scrutinizing of geo charts to be akin to the patients in hospitals using google to tell their doctors what to do... just trust the bike manufacturers. At 6'1 I have always bought bikes in size Large (or Large equivalent, s4 in this case) and never thought twice about it. Will usually need to adjust stem length, bar rise, and slide the saddle up or down to get comfy, but that's it.
As you sit there in your chair, move your upper body such that your shoulders move 1 cm towards your screen, then 1 cm away. Feel how utterly insignificant that movement is. Now tell me a bike is unrideable because the reach is 10mm too long.
Think less, ride more. Swap stems.
