Atherton S170.E Dyf-E bike coming soon...

“Mud actually lubes them as it squishes out between the ribs.”

It doesn’t, and it can’t, as mud isn’t a lubricant. I think the DH riders using a belt had to put a profiled comb in the path of the belt to sweep out mud and grit before it met the drive roller.
The comb is on the belt tensioner. They can get built up with some mud, ive found grass to
All this talk of belt drive motors.....surely that would only be pinion or intradrive? Intra drive seems still too new? Pinion doesn't seem to get raved about in reviews, although I'd like to try one
If your in the huddersfield area, you can try the MGU
 
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One of my lads rides a Zerode & he absolutely has had multiple instances of the belt clogging with mud & coming off the sprocket. I've seen it with my own eyes!
 
Really disappointed if it's DJI. Especially if the rumors are true and a second gen DJI is coming out this year with some of the issues fixed.
 
Really disappointed if it's DJI. Especially if the rumors are true and a second gen DJI is coming out this year with some of the issues fixed.
Why would you be disappointed? Who's to say it doesn't come with the gen 2 motor? By all accounts the next DJI motors will retain the same mounting/form factor so it's not really an issue.
 
Why would you be disappointed? Who's to say it doesn't come with the gen 2 motor? By all accounts the next DJI motors will retain the same mounting/form factor so it's not really an issue.
Well, in the UK at least part waits have been huge for DJI. Speed sensors are very fragile. Also now more people are racking up miles on them, they start to rattle, a lot. That's two issues allegedly coming in the next gen. That won't be till after eurobike so still quite a wait. Why would I pay for a second gen motor to replace a motor on a bike that I just bought? That makes zero sense
 
Well, in the UK at least part waits have been huge for DJI. Speed sensors are very fragile. Also now more people are racking up miles on them, they start to rattle, a lot. That's two issues allegedly coming in the next gen. That won't be till after eurobike so still quite a wait. Why would I pay for a second gen motor to replace a motor on a bike that I just bought? That makes zero sense
My point was more that we have no idea when the Atherton bike is coming (or do we?). Maybe it will release with the gen 2 motor.

Where did you hear that the new motor won't come until after Eurobike?
 
Well, in the UK at least part waits have been huge for DJI. Speed sensors are very fragile. Also now more people are racking up miles on them, they start to rattle, a lot. That's two issues allegedly coming in the next gen. That won't be till after eurobike so still quite a wait. Why would I pay for a second gen motor to replace a motor on a bike that I just bought? That makes zero sense
I dunno where you get this stuff from but spare part times are not an issue at all. Literally everyone I know that's needed anything has had it within a couple of days. As for the rattle. They really don't but whatever 😂

Any "new" Avinox bike that's coming in 2026 will more than likely have the new version in it. Why do you think the Avinox Commencal isn't coming til Spring 26 along with many others.

Sea Otter Classic will be a good place to have a look at new Avinox products 😉
 
Really disappointed if it's DJI. Especially if the rumors are true and a second gen DJI is coming out this year with some of the issues fixed.
Did any of you watch the YouTube to the end? Spot the mic, surely a give away for it being DJI / Avinox.

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surprised if its a 750wh battery when they only do a 600wh and 800wh for the system (currently)
600 becomes a 750 and the 800 becomes 1000? Is possible Atherton has their own custom battery, like Rotwild.

Electric car development in China is hunger games level competition, Avinox is bringing that mentality to the ebike world.

Will bet my meager savings that it will come with the M2 motor.
 
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I forgot to mention; my belt drive does NOT have a tensioner pulley system. (Front and rear sprocket only) Mud definitely wouldn’t be good for a tensioner pulley!

One of my lads rides a Zerode & he absolutely has had multiple instances of the belt clogging with mud & coming off the sprocket. I've seen it with my own eyes!
AlumPro made an important point. The tensioner is the problem, not the belt. Both his Anakin and my MilkMoney, both of which are MTBs, have concentric wheel paths and therefore no spring tensioner is required for the belt. This means that the belt can be set more taut and not give like spring tensioner would, hence the mud more readily squishes out. Unfortunately the spring tensioner doesn't know the difference between suspension activation belt flexing and a harder chunk of clay mud displacing the belt from the sprocket/crank. I really dislike spring belt tensioners as a whole as they are either poorly designed (e.g. Pinion) or freakishly heavy (e.g. over a pound for a UT tensioner). If light-weight MGUs ever come about, I'll take the frame builders that have concentric wheel paths for this very reason.

Ultimately, though, this doesn't matter for the Atherton as they went the Avinox route - unless Avinox has an MGU up its sleeve.
 
600 becomes a 750 and the 800 becomes 1000? Is possible Atherton has their own custom battery, like Rotwild.

Electric car development in China is hunger games level competition, Avinox is bringing that mentality to the ebike world.

Will bet my meager savings that it will come with the M2 motor.
I wish it will come with m2, but given details are soon to be announced, I don't think it will. It's too early. Plus other bike manufacturers have just released and still releasing gen 1 models. Would complete stop all there sales of gen 2 was announced this early.
 
I wish it will come with m2, but given details are soon to be announced, I don't think it will. It's too early. Plus other bike manufacturers have just released and still releasing gen 1 models. Would complete stop all there sales of gen 2 was announced this early.
Manufactures often unveil bikes stipulating that final production model specs may differ from what was initially shown. I'm not sure you can determine anything at this point so just wait and see.
 
sure there will be alot of rumours and false facts but thats part of the fun. I would think theyd go with bosch, be interesting to see!
 
Manufactures often unveil bikes stipulating that final production model specs may differ from what was initially shown. I'm not sure you can determine anything at this point so just wait and see.
I mean, the new DJI commencal was announced last year yet it'll arrive with the new version whatever that ends up being. Same will go for whatever Atherton announce, probably won't arrive til the Spring anyway so would coincide with it being delivered with thr new Avinox setup.
 
I won't being doshing the value of any Atherton any time sooner, but IF, I was considering, it would definitely have a 48V system.
Have a battery with smart security system, geometry is key (I for once like short chainstays, and steep HA, don't mind for a less steep SA so that long reach don't end with a short TT, and/or High BB!
Definitely would like to have a more centralized CG as Lapierre overvolt. - middle mount battery.
And would definitely love to have 2x400Wh battery with a possibilty for a Range Extender for those very long rides. [2x400Wh would allow only 1 battery for 1h ride, without extra weight]
 
The DJI Avinox Motor has been out since 2024 and has a very good reliability record thus far. Additionally the motor has an IP55 water egress rating which is above most other current manufacturers. I think we can all agree between 2024 and all of 2025 the DJI Avinox motor and battery system has probably been through more brutal testing than any EMTB system before it. Amflow made sure their bike went out to anyone and everyone who wanted to put it through its paces. Some reviewers stated the bike they got looked “well used” and never had any motor/battery issues.

If Atherton adopted the M1 Avinox motor or the Bosch CX for their new EMTB it will probably be the best choice because both have a good track record. If they are engineering and building now they are already locked in, so whether it’s Avinox or the Bosch CX it will be a fantastic bike.
 
I won't being doshing the value of any Atherton any time sooner, but IF, I was considering, it would definitely have a 48V system.
Have a battery with smart security system, geometry is key (I for once like short chainstays, and steep HA, don't mind for a less steep SA so that long reach don't end with a short TT, and/or High BB!
Definitely would like to have a more centralized CG as Lapierre overvolt. - middle mount battery.
And would definitely love to have 2x400Wh battery with a possibilty for a Range Extender for those very long rides. [2x400Wh would allow only 1 battery for 1h ride, without extra weight]
only true 48v system is the new giant reign e+. Thats on my radar to get but waiting to see what the atherton is first. Im at dyfi bike park every week and not seen a hint of it yet :(
 
only true 48v system is the new giant reign e+. Thats on my radar to get but waiting to see what the atherton is first. Im at dyfi bike park every week and not seen a hint of it yet :(
Why is the Levo G4 not a “true” 48v system?
 
Why is the Levo G4 not a “true” 48v system?
From what I saw.on some tests, it doesn't run 48v all the time. It's like they say the a works is 58v. That's stretching marketing to the max. Main advantage is higher voltage and lower amps. Less heat and more efficient. The gen 4 I demoed was not what I would call efficient.
 
48V at this time has some downsides for manufacturers. It also has upsides, so wide adoption won’t happen right away.
 
AlumPro made an important point. The tensioner is the problem, not the belt. Both his Anakin and my MilkMoney, both of which are MTBs, have concentric wheel paths and therefore no spring tensioner is required for the belt. This means that the belt can be set more taut and not give like spring tensioner would, hence the mud more readily squishes out. Unfortunately the spring tensioner doesn't know the difference between suspension activation belt flexing and a harder chunk of clay mud displacing the belt from the sprocket/crank. I really dislike spring belt tensioners as a whole as they are either poorly designed (e.g. Pinion) or freakishly heavy (e.g. over a pound for a UT tensioner). If light-weight MGUs ever come about, I'll take the frame builders that have concentric wheel paths for this very reason.

Ultimately, though, this doesn't matter for the Atherton as they went the Avinox route - unless Avinox has an MGU up its sleeve.
When I set up my Anakin frame build, Cavalerie advised me to set the belt tension as loose as possible without it falling off, which reduces output shaft bearing wear and drag.
 
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