I'm excited for it, but suspect with it being alloy, ots going to weigh a lot. Which would be a shame. Pricing it seems will be 8k upwards in gbp.Looks like they have 3 chainstay sizes available, from 430-440 on the AM150, which was the one I considered a few years back. Pretty sure it was 1 or 2 back then, but either way too short for my tastes.
For a custom frame, I think that's much too limited when you are talking reaches from 415- 535.
A.150M.Frame
Our frame-only option comes with a Fox Facotry X2 shock 205/60, delivering 150mm of smooth, controlled travel. This bike is available to buy through the cycle-to-work schemewww.athertonbikes.com
Anyways, I'm exicting to see what they bring to the table for their e-bike.
Atherton S170.E Dyf-E bike coming soon...
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Right. I would not consider the alloy version myself.
I honestly don't follow the Avinox specific threads here or elsewhere but what I've 'heard' is that they are reliable and provide good service.
Have any links to share of examples showing otherwise?
That said, you're not going to beat Bosch service and uptime, at this time.
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Highland Wheels
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He's talking nonsense.
One of the biggest AMflow dealers up here has been selling probably hundreds of them since day one, if not in the thousands now. Never heard him once complain about any reliability issues.
Same goes to the absolutely massive amount of them you see on any given day, out in the Scottish wet weather at places like the Golfie.
After sales is bang on as well. Had an issue with one of my controllers, Order placed and a new one arrived next day. Same story to any of my mates that have needed parts. Weeks and months you say?
Just the usual Internet BS.
Just depends, have to wait and see. I prefer the alu Enduro bike over the carbon
With the crazy USA administration banning DJI drones, they could potentially ban all DJI/Avinox products....Atherton perhaps should weigh the risk of potentially not being able to sell their ebike in the USA as a possiblity when selecting a motor system. Plenty of other systems available without the political risk.
While most seem to be problem free, in 5 months I've replacements of the following:
speed sensor
left wireless controller
battery
screen
charger
sethimus
😠 Donald Duck 😠
that is a YOU problem, not a rest of the world problem
also, cry over there: Will a forecast DJI drone ban in USA affect emtb?
Purple parznip
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Not the best looking frames for analogues,lets hope they go dji for the motor,if not they will lose out badly.
Purple parznip
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Internet bs is saying there is no issues. Go to the avinox section on this forum. Please ty of u happy people eating a long time on spares due to faults. It's not rocket science.
For example, speed sensors going g but DJI saying motor needs replacing. There is many reports of this on lots of forums and groups and the local shop to me also sees it.
Anyone who says there is no issues is lying or blind. Or their business depends on the brand.
Amflow: Bike power motor restricted, Speed sensor error
Pretty much all emtbs have issues, there's been no horror stories for avinox like canyon batteries etc
When I've had issues, going through amflow directly resulted in parts sent out in a day or two. When my issue was bigger and had to go back to the shop it was 2 weeks.
seems more like the shop/amflow haven't been able to diagnose it. Amflow seem happy to throw the parts cannon at it so not sure how long they would be without a working bike
Highland Wheels
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I'm not denying there isn't folk having some issues, i'm included in that
,But That goes without saying for literally every other motor system that's on the market as well. But the Avinox is certainly not unreliable like you claimed earlier in the thread.
crossing fingers for an alu frame ... Or even better : the choice, so everyone will be happy (dream mode OFF).
Whatever, i'm very curious to see how they will adapt their existing linkage to the 'E' (motor-battery) constraints.
And if it's Avinox-ed / Mahle-ed or Maxon-ed, i hope being able to afford one.
Whatever, i'm very curious to see how they will adapt their existing linkage to the 'E' (motor-battery) constraints.
And if it's Avinox-ed / Mahle-ed or Maxon-ed, i hope being able to afford one.
mmcengineer
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well good on them for realising the people with disposable income are buying ebikes sell to the market or die
Highland Wheels
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Surely this applies to absolutely every single brand and every single bike be it Electric or not
Bob Orbea Rise
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Given their comments on waiting for the right technology to become available I’d immediately assumed gear box e motor with gates drive. Everything else had been available for some time
But whatever it is there WILL be some reliability issues somewhere esp given the environment these thing operate in. Every manufacturer of anything has a failure rate it’s just a question of how long how often and how well they deal with it. They being the motor manufacturer not Atherton presumably
But whatever it is there WILL be some reliability issues somewhere esp given the environment these thing operate in. Every manufacturer of anything has a failure rate it’s just a question of how long how often and how well they deal with it. They being the motor manufacturer not Atherton presumably
AlumiPro
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Which would pair nicely with my gates drive gearbox Anakin V2 
Droy33
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And only 12k
Gbp price will start under 10.And only 12k
I have seen how well belt drives can work inside a car engine, inside factories, and even on the commute in the wet. But how well do belt drives work in the mud? 
Anyone got any experience to share?
Anyone got any experience to share?
AlumiPro
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They work great in mud. Mud actually lubes them as it squishes out between the ribs.I have seen how well belt drives can work inside a car engine, inside factories, and even on the commute in the wet. But how well do belt drives work in the mud?
Anyone got any experience to share?
When riding in dry dusty situations I spray the belt with belt dressing every other ride because the rubber belt going around the aluminum sprocket will produce a small squeak sound.
Rockhopper70
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“Mud actually lubes them as it squishes out between the ribs.”
It doesn’t, and it can’t, as mud isn’t a lubricant. I think the DH riders using a belt had to put a profiled comb in the path of the belt to sweep out mud and grit before it met the drive roller.
It doesn’t, and it can’t, as mud isn’t a lubricant. I think the DH riders using a belt had to put a profiled comb in the path of the belt to sweep out mud and grit before it met the drive roller.
Rockhopper70
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From a PinkBike article…..
”Hello, my name is Pascal. I'm the mechanic for Gamux Factory Racing and also co-owner with the Gamux Bike Company.
We're stood in nice bright sunshine here in Les Gets. But rain's coming probably at the weekend. What do you guys do wet weather set up wise?
Mainly we focus on tire choice. There's a few little things we do to the drivetrain in order to keep it clean,In the tension we have sort of a 3D printed insert that we put in, so it keeps the pulley wheel clean so we don't pull any mud in to the system. Maybe some suspension changes. It really depends on how hard-packed the train is below, like the riding surface. So if it goes steep and gets rough and rutty, you do some changes depending on the rider requests. But other than that, for us really crucial is tyre choice and tyre pressure.
Does the belt drive system have any unique challenges when it gets wet and muddy?
Yeah. The main thing is to keep it as clean as you can and you don't want any mud or like, clay-like mud getting stuck in the pulley wheel mainly of the tensioner. But that's why we put this little 3D printed inserts and then if it's really muddy and sticky, you're going to wash the bikes anyway. So just keep your drivechain clean like on a chain driven Derailer system is pretty similar, honestly. And you're golden.”
I take from that that they can manage mud for a short downhill race but I’d be curious how such a system would cope with a big trail ride in muddy conditions. Certainly, they don’t want mud in the system at all.
”Hello, my name is Pascal. I'm the mechanic for Gamux Factory Racing and also co-owner with the Gamux Bike Company.
Mainly we focus on tire choice. There's a few little things we do to the drivetrain in order to keep it clean,In the tension we have sort of a 3D printed insert that we put in, so it keeps the pulley wheel clean so we don't pull any mud in to the system. Maybe some suspension changes. It really depends on how hard-packed the train is below, like the riding surface. So if it goes steep and gets rough and rutty, you do some changes depending on the rider requests. But other than that, for us really crucial is tyre choice and tyre pressure.
Yeah. The main thing is to keep it as clean as you can and you don't want any mud or like, clay-like mud getting stuck in the pulley wheel mainly of the tensioner. But that's why we put this little 3D printed inserts and then if it's really muddy and sticky, you're going to wash the bikes anyway. So just keep your drivechain clean like on a chain driven Derailer system is pretty similar, honestly. And you're golden.”
I take from that that they can manage mud for a short downhill race but I’d be curious how such a system would cope with a big trail ride in muddy conditions. Certainly, they don’t want mud in the system at all.
AlumiPro
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Correct; mud isn’t an actual lubricant…..don’t purposely put mud on your gates belt. I don’t ride in extremely muddy conditions, so there’s not a ton of mud that makes it onto the belt. I agree it also depends on the type of mud/clay. Gearbox’s already have a bit more drag than cassettes do, I wouldn’t want even more drag riding in thick mud, so I try to avoid it.
I forgot to mention; my belt drive does NOT have a tensioner pulley system. (Front and rear sprocket only) Mud definitely wouldn’t be good for a tensioner pulley!
I forgot to mention; my belt drive does NOT have a tensioner pulley system. (Front and rear sprocket only) Mud definitely wouldn’t be good for a tensioner pulley!
Rockhopper70
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Muddy here…I think a belt would struggle.
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