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Hello, for now we will continue with the kits for Bafang engines, very soon with the new M510RS and M560RS
New CEF69 bafang m510 and bafang m560 and cef50 bafang m820 frames
Thanks!
Once I finish building my second CEF50 probably i'll get a CEF69 with M510RS
Think the M510 is 200g more and has same power output. for buisness decision it wouldnt make sense to me to be locked into a platform, Im sure one day DJI will have Monthly subscriptions, People that don't like DIY usually can afford a commerical bike without the hassle of building it and you pay for that privlidge, Don't know if DJI will ever sell Motor Alone either.
Whats new with those compared to the non rs motors?
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The Bafang M510RS is an improved version of the M510. The following is an introduction to their differences:
• Torque Sensor Accuracy: The accuracy of the M510RS's internal torque sensor has improved considerably compared to the M510. It is also equipped with a rear wheel speed sensor with 42 signals. The two work together so that the motor system responds faster and more sensitively.
• Function Modes: The M510RS has a software update, adding sport+ and auto hold modes. The adaptive sport+ mode exceeds the traditional gear limit, providing dynamic assistance and intelligently adapting to driving needs. The automatic hold function allows drivers to stop stably on steep slopes without fear of backing up.
• Maximum pair: The maximum pair of the M510 is 95 N·m. The maximum torp of the M510RS is 110 N·m.
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M560rs
Speed sensor configuration: The M560RS is equipped with the SRS03 speed sensor and a speed disc with 42 rev holes, which improves speed detection resolution and makes the motor's perception of driving speed more accurate. In contrast, the M560 is only equipped with a conventional speed detection sensor and a magnet, and the accuracy of its speed signal feedback is relatively normal compared to the M560RS.
Special Functional Configuration: The M560RS adds the slope retention function, which allows the electric bike to remain stable when stopped on steep slopes and avoids backing up, significantly improving safety when driving on mountainous roads. The M560 does not have this dedicated hill maintenance function, and drivers must rely on braking to keep the bike stationary in the hills.
Torque performance consistency: The M560 has inconsistent torque data in different versions. Its maximum pair can reach 130N·m, and some high-power versions can reach 140N·m. The M560RS sets the maximum torque parameter at 140N·m. This stable high-torque performance makes your power performance more predictable while driving, especially when facing complex road conditions, such as climbs.
Noise performance when driving: The M560RS is promoted by manufacturers as a silent engine version. Although it still uses an all-metal gear structure like that of the M560, it may have optimized gear accuracy or adjusted the internal structure during the update. The M560 often produces an obvious high-pitched noise coming from the rotor and stator assembly when the rotation speed exceeds 70 rpm, while the M560RS has a certain improvement in the suppression of this acute electrical noise.
Throttle compatibility: The M560 supports an optional throttle device, which can offer users a more comfortable driving experience when they need to rely solely on engine power. There is no official information indicating that the M560RS has an optional accelerator configuration. It can focus more on the synchronization of pedal assist and sensor signals, and its driving mode depends relatively more on the coordination between human strength and engine assistance.
Speed sensor configuration: The M560RS is equipped with the SRS03 speed sensor and a speed disc with 42 rev holes, which improves speed detection resolution and makes the motor's perception of driving speed more accurate. In contrast, the M560 is only equipped with a conventional speed detection sensor and a magnet, and the accuracy of its speed signal feedback is relatively normal compared to the M560RS.
Special Functional Configuration: The M560RS adds the slope retention function, which allows the electric bike to remain stable when stopped on steep slopes and avoids backing up, significantly improving safety when driving on mountainous roads. The M560 does not have this dedicated hill maintenance function, and drivers must rely on braking to keep the bike stationary in the hills.
Torque performance consistency: The M560 has inconsistent torque data in different versions. Its maximum pair can reach 130N·m, and some high-power versions can reach 140N·m. The M560RS sets the maximum torque parameter at 140N·m. This stable high-torque performance makes your power performance more predictable while driving, especially when facing complex road conditions, such as climbs.
Noise performance when driving: The M560RS is promoted by manufacturers as a silent engine version. Although it still uses an all-metal gear structure like that of the M560, it may have optimized gear accuracy or adjusted the internal structure during the update. The M560 often produces an obvious high-pitched noise coming from the rotor and stator assembly when the rotation speed exceeds 70 rpm, while the M560RS has a certain improvement in the suppression of this acute electrical noise.
Throttle compatibility: The M560 supports an optional throttle device, which can offer users a more comfortable driving experience when they need to rely solely on engine power. There is no official information indicating that the M560RS has an optional accelerator configuration. It can focus more on the synchronization of pedal assist and sensor signals, and its driving mode depends relatively more on the coordination between human strength and engine assistance.
Not bad, colour is quite nice. How much was it?My frame is shipping soon too, will build it slowly over a couple months over winter checking for deals, already got some good stuff. Will post later once completed
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1900 USD for motor (m560) + 835wh carbon case battery + frame + all the miscellaneous stuff you need. 326 USD shipping to finland with duties so lets hope no additional cost there. So 2245 total, a lot of it is shipping.
In the end im hoping total bike build will be around 3.5k€ not going for super high end stuff unless i find some good deals. I didn't like the specs on prebuilt bikes in that pricerange, theres always some weird choices in those so i felt DIY was the choice for me.
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This is one of our CEF69 frames, runner-up in the UCI ebike world championship, with the M510 motor.
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Love to know what shock that is. It looks like it fits better then the X2
This is what I found about the competition results for the bafang motor.
Adrián Cuellar (Bafang Factory Artesana) finished 2nd in the Men Elite race at the WES UCI E-MTB XC World Cup round in Massa Marittima on Oct 11, 2025.
Two years before the Massa Marittima finale, Albert Faixeda publicly stated his goal: win an eBike World Cup, not just place well. Faixeda went on to Win a WES UCI E-MTB World Cup round, fulfilling that stated goal
Albert Faixeda: World Cup win
Adrián Cuellar: 2nd place at the season-ending Massa Marittima round
Here is a Bafang quote: "Since 2023, we’ve watched Albert triumph in demanding races like La Cavallera, Romànic Bike Extrem, La Cabronada and so on. One defining moment was at “La Salamandra 2023” in Llagostera: through 41km of relentless rain and slippery, 1100m+ elevation, Albert and his M510 emerged victorious."
Adrián Cuellar (Bafang Factory Artesana) finished 2nd in the Men Elite race at the WES UCI E-MTB XC World Cup round in Massa Marittima on Oct 11, 2025.
Two years before the Massa Marittima finale, Albert Faixeda publicly stated his goal: win an eBike World Cup, not just place well. Faixeda went on to Win a WES UCI E-MTB World Cup round, fulfilling that stated goal
Albert Faixeda: World Cup win
Adrián Cuellar: 2nd place at the season-ending Massa Marittima round
Here is a Bafang quote: "Since 2023, we’ve watched Albert triumph in demanding races like La Cavallera, Romànic Bike Extrem, La Cabronada and so on. One defining moment was at “La Salamandra 2023” in Llagostera: through 41km of relentless rain and slippery, 1100m+ elevation, Albert and his M510 emerged victorious."
Wallyza
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After a LOT of research I went ahead and bought the CEF 69 with M510RS motor from Jean last month. Delivery to South Africa is expected end January '26 (lead time for the RS was a bit longer than the older version). I went for the L, I am 178 cm with longer than average legs and ape index so a M would feel cramped.
I am currently riding a Kenevo SL and will be swopping over all the parts except the dropper (34.9mm) Nothing wrong with the Kenevo at all, I just needed a bigger motor and battery to be able to keep up with my mates. I have both a 27.5 and 29 rear wheel so, can play around and get the sweet spot.
Thanks for all the info in these forums, they formed a large part of my research.
- What length dropper are you guys running and what is your clearance on the frame? I think I am in the clear but am still a little concerned.
I am currently riding a Kenevo SL and will be swopping over all the parts except the dropper (34.9mm) Nothing wrong with the Kenevo at all, I just needed a bigger motor and battery to be able to keep up with my mates. I have both a 27.5 and 29 rear wheel so, can play around and get the sweet spot.
- To the guys running mullet, have you experienced any issues with the lowered BB height?
Thanks for all the info in these forums, they formed a large part of my research.
I posted a little earlier in the thread the geo numbers if you go mullet. A few of us will be running mullet. I specifically will be running it with a 2mm bushing offset. The bb gets lower but it’s not bad at all. I would recommend going with as short of a crank as possible though.
Wallyza
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Yeah, I saw that, thanks. It is very helpful and informative. They are supplying 165mm but I think the 2mm bushing is a good idea. Will look into that when the bike arrives.
Droy33
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I to have just got rid my ksl2 gone for m560 motor and custom paint job hopefully be here January RC2T coil fox 38s 152 cranks hunt wheelset mullet xt gears brakes should look rather sweet when done
IMO 165mm is too long. I am getting 152. Now I am shorter but I wouldn’t go any longer than 160. My
2 cents.
WK0
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Dang that's gonna look sharp when it's built up
Guys i went through this, The BB is 20mm lower with a 205 x 65 Shock 27.5 Rear, the 2mm Bushing won't do much to help It might bring it forward or back 2mm. Engineers also from SSZbikes also mentioned that the 2mm bushing won't work, Told me if you dont want pedal strikes get smaller cranks or get 29inch wheel.
I'll get picture at luch of my bike and the heigh of BB
I'll get picture at luch of my bike and the heigh of BB
The distance from the ground to the bb with a mullet should only be about 8mm lower. The drop is a little different than the actual clearance. I agree the 2mm offset is minor but it helps. Is the bb really 20mm closer to the ground?
Here are some pics, One is where chain is and other where mount is under the bike, I have chain guard on bike, Attached is x2 which i will be changing as it hits top of the frame.
To Motor Cover To chain
X2 you can see i have already scrapped sticker off, you can see the mount 2 mm off set won't change much
To Motor Cover To chain
X2 you can see i have already scrapped sticker off, you can see the mount 2 mm off set won't change much
Thx. Chances you have a 29r wheel to compare?
I do have 29inch wheel that needs to be laced, Reason i say 29" be better looking at the latest pic that showed the CEF69 that come second in the EMTB UCI championshhips, He was usina a OHLINS which when i mesaured them were about 1mm can size smaller then the X2. , Unless im wrong it looks like the TTX2.
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Wallyza
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Where are you getting the 152mm cranks from? I asked Jean this morning for anything shorter than 165mm and they do not have.
Wallyza
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My, very basic, maths says approximately 12mm. Difference in diameter is 1.5 inch so difference in radius is 0.75 inch, 19.5mm. If the BB is halfway between the 2 axles (it is more to the rear) that 19.5mm will be halved again. As it is more to the rear the drop will be more. So a educated thumbsuck is 12mm.
Feel free to correct me, my school days are long behind me.
my sales representative was not Jean. Mine was able to include them. Options were 152.5, 160, 165, 170 I believe . I’m not sure why one person can get them and one cannot.
Wallyza
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Thanks, will check with them again.
Edit: 160mm is the shortest the can supply currently. I changed my order just in time, Jean sent a video of them packing my bike right now!
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Cool...Not sure why someone can get different sizes than another but there are a few companies that make 155mm that will fit the befang. At least you got a 160. Ebikes = shorter the better IMO
