Sounds like you should sell the frames and cut your losses, particularly if you can purchase Bosch cheaper than Bafang. I guess that’s down to EU tariffs.
Well same as mine. Check video of mine with motor on the trail. But be aware when the motor is installed in a frame the noise is amplified and is even worse. Really on a ride people will turn to you for sure. I've opened it up and greased everything and it helped little bit. But still noisy especially in higher RPMs. Let's say up to 60 it's fine. Up to 70 tolerable and above the "fun" begins. At that point you want to gear up to lower cadencies because you want to get rid of a noise. But uphill the motor is not that performant in lower cadencies so there is no win situation. It's not like the noise of gears, yes it's there - some mechanical noise of spinning gears but this is not that bad. Problem is that high pitched noise created probably by the rotor spinning very fast transferring into motor cage and then up to the frame.is there someone waking up finally and saying things as they are ?
anyways
here's sound of my friends m560 he got two weeks ago
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But on a trail in the night oh man... poor wild animals That's true but with Bosch you don't need any customization. Everything works there out of a box. Support is great, regular firmware updates, all is simply working out of the box. The only thing I would do is not unlock it to 45kmh and that's all I need.
A good decision. No good bike manufacturer will install bafang in their bikes and they have a reason for that. People would kill them. I would never buy bafang but I wanted to try E82 frameset and this was the only option. And yeah, it's disappointment. They do many motor and in the end is +/- the same. Some more power some less power. But they have one thing common. They are all noisy, very noisy.
Maybe but other manufacturers are now miles ahead of bafang. That's reality. You can put lot of bullshit on a paper trust me. I can say that my Bosch gen. 4 is in turbo mode same if not more powerful than M600. And look at specs...
We get that you love your bosch motor, but that doesn't make everything better than the bafang. Bafang is the 3rd most used sytem in the world next to Shimano, and Bosch so to say that "no good bike manufacture will install bafang" is nearly a load of crap, not to mention the right to repair is totally gone with the bosch, how much more are other manufactures when people are still buying M560s, M510s, M620s, which are really really old tech. Also, the animal comment is hilarious when nearly all hunting e-bikes use bafang systems.Well same as mine. Check video of mine with motor on the trail. But be aware when the motor is installed in a frame the noise is amplified and is even worse. Really on a ride people will turn to you for sure. I've opened it up and greased everything and it helped little bit. But still noisy especially in higher RPMs. Let's say up to 60 it's fine. Up to 70 tolerable and above the "fun" begins. At that point you want to gear up to lower cadencies because you want to get rid of a noise. But uphill the motor is not that performant in lower cadencies so there is no win situation. It's not like the noise of gears, yes it's there - some mechanical noise of spinning gears but this is not that bad. Problem is that high pitched noise created probably by the rotor spinning very fast transferring into motor cage and then up to the frame.
Just returned from a ride and yes, I guess it was better this time but still far away from the noise of my Bosch gen. 4. It can't be even compared. At least there is no power surge and power delivery on climbing is stable. With this I'm fine. The noise I consider the only issue. It was pretty windy today so the noise blended with environment
That's true but with Bosch you don't need any customization. Everything works there out of a box. Support is great, regular firmware updates, all is simply working out of the box. The only thing I would do is not unlock it to 45kmh and that's all I need.
A good decision. No good bike manufacturer will install bafang in their bikes and they have a reason for that. People would kill them. I would never buy bafang but I wanted to try E82 frameset and this was the only option. And yeah, it's disappointment. They do many motor and in the end is +/- the same. Some more power some less power. But they have one thing common. They are all noisy, very noisy.
Maybe but other manufacturers are now miles ahead of bafang. That's reality. You can put lot of bullshit on a paper trust me. I can say that my Bosch gen. 4 is in turbo mode same if not more powerful than M600. And look at specs...
hard data please . millions including hubs and bbs yes ? and the number is coming from where ?
Thanks! Thant explains it then. Really looks like it's the latest iteration. I've regreased the motor completely and now it sounds much butter. It is still not silent, but much better. Think I can get used to it (until I ride my bosch again lol).
Well, they do not. But still it's the fact no premium brand bike manufactures use bafang. This is used in low/middle class bikes - Pedego, Juiced, Aventon, Charge. Did you ever hear of them ?And it is false expectations you have, same as Mischenko. So they should build motor according your expectations?
Bosch also allowing you to set treshold voltages?
"here in uk" you mean via a local dealer ?
Oh well I guess if you are correct then the deep dive I did using Google ChatGPT must be bollocks. So much for AI.
Well, I found ChatGPT often talks nonsense. It depends how you ask and what sentiment you have when ask. And sometimes you must ask multiple times because first you get a completely different response.
Cheapest I found somewhere in Germany is about 600 eur for 36V. Most of them are 700 and up. Often they are selling for 1000 eur which is insane.
Is there an actual UK Bafang dealer in the UK, I think we are covered by the European division.
the only numbers i believe is annual company report . chinese companies are not required to publicize them outside PRC thus we know nothing ... not to mention this is irrelevant as discussed issues are still here unsolved and manufacturer is not likely to fix them , rather offering new product - where is fault in this statement?
This is right. You buy this motor and then you need to fix it yourself. I don't understand so many fanboys around here
OMG its an ended Auction, that's what I paid 3 months ago, what more can I say.Omg, that's an ended auction. Show me shop in UK which sells cheap. Even in China you won't buy for less than 600$ and then add shipping fees and taxes eventually.
I have 10000+ km on my Bosch and never had a single issue. M560 is a bit more powerful but that's it.
This is right. You buy this motor and then you need to fix it yourself. I don't understand so many fanboys around here
People should be more objective because all that glitters is not gold.
Just cry, boy. If you would know how many issues and bugs I encounter with Bafangs last years you would cry a river.
Thing is you can't normally buy it for that price. You were lucky, that's it.
I just bought m560 motor from chili Shen and it cost me 510€. Shipping and tax included. China to EU.
It is as it is. Yes, Go app was shit and made lot of harm to people. Also was criticizing missing Assistance level % in app - such an important parameter. Just you wont solve anything with the crying.
YOU started attacking me . what is weird in the fact that "Slovaks, Czech and Polish" are complaining for the price since they earn money in much less worthy currency genius ?? why not set price at 100 pln or 100 czk . actually you only admitted that you fixed what bafang fu#$%d up - therefore conclusion is that bafang is shit ? yes or no ? if NO - why ? it took lots of work ? of course - bafang released half baked product - thank u for agreeing with me.
You develop it for 100pln, smart boy.
yee , typical . i want bafang to do their job . could u please try stick to arguments not people ? and grow up just a little ?
Hey, and you are from Slovakia and don't cry about the price
Anyhow, it's not about the price why we are crying 
Not at all, I've seen that same retailer on a number of occassions selling around that. Chilli is much the same price. I think the UK has quite a bit less % Customs and delivery charges than the EU, certainly I've stopped buying from the EU as I can get gear quite a bit cheaper through AliExpress, Temu, Ebay since Brexit.
