Reign E+ 2022

[Dale_Calgary]

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Holy crap that's expensive!

I finally got my 250 extended and have been riding the last 3 days and.... I don't need this battery extender lol.

I might sell it.

 

[Rickster]

Holy crap that's expensive!

I finally got my 250 extended and have been riding the last 3 days and.... I don't need this battery extender lol.

I might sell it.

Dale you don’t have to strap it on for every ride. Unless you’re not adventuring far enough or long enough on a regular basis to justify the extender. For myself I’m hoping to score the new 800wh battery to complement the 750wh and the 250wh extender ! BC is a huge wide open area with so much to discover. I don’t know where you ride but I love discovering new to me areas. They are endless ! Cheers

 

[PetriKarj]

This is something I noticed too, I actually liked the auto mode when climbing at the local dh spot. No more faffing with assist levels when doing laps, I just leave it in auto.

Interesting, I find auto almost impossible for technical areas. Other bikes I have had the brake levers have killed the motor engaging but Reign does not have brake control over power which leads power surge when brakes are released on technical terrain. I need to use manual settings, most offen 2, for tech…

Are the climbs just easy areas or what could be the difference ?

 

[Mr Dog]

Dale you don’t have to strap it on for every ride. Unless you’re not adventuring far enough or long enough on a regular basis to justify the extender. For myself I’m hoping to score the new 800wh battery to complement the 750wh and the 250wh extender ! BC is a huge wide open area with so much to discover. I don’t know where you ride but I love discovering new to me areas. They are endless ! Cheers

You got some monster range there

Just ordered one. Should be here in 3 weeks. Hope they come good.

It does blow my mind how expensive these E-bike batteries are. I recently spent the same amount on 3.5X the kwh for a LiPo Leisure battery for for my van. That thing has a fancy BMS with bluetooth connectivity. I guess while suckers like us are willing to pay, manufacturers will be happy to sell and its not like supply is outweighing demand right now.

Anyway looking forward to extending the reach on the Giant. I starting to think I would never get hold of a second battery. Now im getting 50wh more than I hoped for too. Happy days.

 

[Dale_Calgary]

Dale you don’t have to strap it on for every ride. Unless you’re not adventuring far enough or long enough on a regular basis to justify the extender. For myself I’m hoping to score the new 800wh battery to complement the 750wh and the 250wh extender ! BC is a huge wide open area with so much to discover. I don’t know where you ride but I love discovering new to me areas. They are endless ! Cheers

This week we are in St George and riding at 7am because its freeking hot and we have done mostly punchy stuff and about 25-30 kms. At home I was going through more battery with climbs but I still havent ended a ride under 50% I=at my local Bragg Creek trails.

Yes I guess it's nice to have the backup but its an expensive backup that I'm going to need to keep on the battery maintainer because I might not even need it.

edit; ps...this bike handles the rough stuff like a champ. I'm very confident riding just about anything and the type of riding here the bike is an excellent choice.

 

[Sherman]

Are the climbs just easy areas or what could be the difference ?

The climb is easy, a very smooth trail. The steepness just varies a lot and auto mode seems to work there pretty well.

I wouldn't (and I don't) use auto for anything remotely technical stuff.

 

[Mr Dog]

Hey guys, may be worth having a quick check of your lower shock bolt torque. I just removed my rear shock to send it for service. I removed the top bolts first. Once they were out the shock was super loose on the lower mount with loads of play. Nut on rhs was no more than finger tight.

probably just a freak occurrence but fwiw may be worth giving that lower nut a quick check.

 

[LielyF]

Hey guys, may be worth having a quick check of your lower shock bolt torque. I just removed my rear shock to send it for service. I removed the top bolts first. Once they were out the shock was super loose on the lower mount with loads of play. Nut on rhs was no more than finger tight.

probably just a freak occurrence but fwiw may be worth giving that lower nut a quick check.

Do you know what the torque value should be for that? thanks

 

[Mr Dog]

Do you know what the torque value should be for that? thanks

I had a quick look around and did not find the value. Annoyingly that bolt has no info printed on it.
I found some info for an older Reign with the same arrangement and it said 15nm. Other suggestions were 11nm same as the upper bolts.
It did not take much to stop the play in the shock so if don’t find other info I will start with 11Nm

 

[Chuggz]

Hey guys, may be worth having a quick check of your lower shock bolt torque. I just removed my rear shock to send it for service. I removed the top bolts first. Once they were out the shock was super loose on the lower mount with loads of play. Nut on rhs was no more than finger tight.

probably just a freak occurrence but fwiw may be worth giving that lower nut a quick check.

I always put some blue locktite on mine it always needschecking

Hey guys, may be worth having a quick check of your lower shock bolt torque. I just removed my rear shock to send it for service. I removed the top bolts first. Once they were out the shock was super loose on the lower mount with loads of play. Nut on rhs was no more than finger tight.

probably just a freak occurrence but fwiw may be worth giving that lower nut a quick check.

My old 2020 reign had that bolt come loose
Had 15nm marked on it,
Blue loctite and ur good to go

 

[Redlemon]

Hey guys, may be worth having a quick check of your lower shock bolt torque. I just removed my rear shock to send it for service. I removed the top bolts first. Once they were out the shock was super loose on the lower mount with loads of play. Nut on rhs was no more than finger tight.

probably just a freak occurrence but fwiw may be worth giving that lower nut a quick check.

Found that mine was also loose a few ago and lead to a creaking noise.

I believe it has to do with the shock eyelet pivoting just a little bit on the bolt when suspension is being compressed, better check that bolt more often.

 

[Endorium]

So going morzine again in a few weeks. Anyone ran a 180mm fork in the bike?

 

[Mikects]

So going morzine again in a few weeks. Anyone ran a 180mm fork in the bike?

IMHO Morzine is much more fun on a proper DH bike - its pretty easy to do a full days riding (70k or more) with little or no pedalling so an E bike may not be the best bet. The longer and slacker the better.

 

[Endorium]

IMHO Morzine is much more fun on a proper DH bike - its pretty easy to do a full days riding (70k or more) with little or no pedalling so an E bike may not be the best bet. The longer and slacker the better.

I hated morzine on a dh rig fast but not fun. Most of it doesn't really need it really. Morgins was a different matter. It got washed out last year and was mega rough. The year before did moraine on a 150/150 Bronson and still loved it. Generally we do chatel, super m, pleney, morgins, linderetes and Les gets. I have really loved the reign e+ at bike parks (info to one every week)

 

[Mikects]

I hated morzine on a dh rig fast but not fun. Most of it doesn't really need it really. Morgins was a different matter. It got washed out last year and was mega rough. The year before did moraine on a 150/150 Bronson and still loved it. Generally we do chatel, super m, pleney, morgins, linderetes and Les gets. I have really loved the reign e+ at bike parks (info to one every week)

Good answer, but isnt he taliking about riding what would essentially be a DH bike but with an added 8kg or so of motor and battery that wouldn't be used 99% of the time?

 

[Endorium]

Good answer, but isnt he taliking about riding what would essentially be a DH bike but with an added 8kg or so of motor and battery that wouldn't be used 99% of the time?

Noooo. DH bike is way longer and slacker. That's why they aren't as fun. They are built for all out speed and stability. Which is ok, but not fun. Can always take the battery out. 21ish kilos then. To be honest I don't notice the weight anymore. Plus can do a few enduro loops as well then as well. But your right, most the time the battery isn't being used.

 

[Redlemon]

My Reign E+2 with a few new upgrades, posting again with the main components upgrade list :

• Rockshox ZEB Ultimate
• Rockshox Super Deluxe Ultimate
• SRAM Code RSC w/ MTX Gold pads
• SRAM HS2 220mm F&R
• Chromag OSX 35 bar (800mm)
• Chromag BZA 35 stem (50mm)
• Nukeproof HZN V2 rear wheel
• Maxxis Assegai maxx grip front & DHR II maxx terra rear, both double down casing.

Next up on the list would be a One up V2 210mm dropper & NOBL TR41 I9 Hydra carbon wheels with a lighter GX cassette, but most likely not before next season.

 

[markoricho]

Does anyone know the difference between these 2 batteries please?
This is the one fitted in my 22 reign 625wh part no. 244M36625l-02V

I have chance to buy a used 625wh battery from an explore e+2 2021
Part no 244M36625l-01V

Same part no. Apart from mine ends in -02V the other is - 01V

Wondered if the V2 just a newer version of the V1 or something different.

Cheers.

 

[Dale_Calgary]

My Reign E+2 with a few new upgrades, posting again with the main components upgrade list :

• Rockshox ZEB Ultimate
• Rockshox Super Deluxe Ultimate
• SRAM Code RSC w/ MTX Gold pads
• SRAM HS2 220mm F&R
• Chromag OSX 35 bar (800mm)
• Chromag BZA 35 stem (50mm)
• Nukeproof HZN V2 rear wheel
• Maxxis Assegai maxx grip front & DHR II maxx terra rear, both double down casing.

Next up on the list would be a One up V2 210mm dropper & NOBL TR41 I9 Hydra carbon wheels with a lighter GX cassette, but most likely not before next season.



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I really like my NOBL tr41's

 

[mummyb0t]

My Reign E+2 with a few new upgrades, posting again with the main components upgrade list :

• Rockshox ZEB Ultimate
• Rockshox Super Deluxe Ultimate
• SRAM Code RSC w/ MTX Gold pads
• SRAM HS2 220mm F&R
• Chromag OSX 35 bar (800mm)
• Chromag BZA 35 stem (50mm)
• Nukeproof HZN V2 rear wheel
• Maxxis Assegai maxx grip front & DHR II maxx terra rear, both double down casing.

Next up on the list would be a One up V2 210mm dropper & NOBL TR41 I9 Hydra carbon wheels with a lighter GX cassette, but most likely not before next season.



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nice upgrades! really like the spec.

 

[Mr Dog]

Just wondering how many guys on here have had issues with the Float X2 rear shock.

I started getting the squelching so I followed up with the dealer (purchased online), who directed me to the importer, who directed me to a local service shop to investigate if its a warranty issue or not. As im in no real hurry to get the shock back I hoped I could get a fix under warranty. From the responses that I got it seems like that is unlikely which is not a huge deal. What concerned me more was the response from the service center;

"Fox Float X2 Performance Elite that has started to make a load squelching noise when compressed

It is a high maintenance shock - don't use unless you can spend on service on a regular basis. The chance for this falling under a warranty case is 50/50."

So its the price of a service or a bit more (200 Swiss francs) which I can tolerate if its one per year but this shock is 6 months old with not a lot of hours on it.

Im wondering if its really worth it or should I think just switching out for a lower maintenance shock?

 

[Endorium]

Just wondering how many guys on here have had issues with the Float X2 rear shock.

I started getting the squelching so I followed up with the dealer (purchased online), who directed me to the importer, who directed me to a local service shop to investigate if its a warranty issue or not. As im in no real hurry to get the shock back I hoped I could get a fix under warranty. From the responses that I got it seems like that is unlikely which is not a huge deal. What concerned me more was the response from the service center;

"Fox Float X2 Performance Elite that has started to make a load squelching noise when compressed

It is a high maintenance shock - don't use unless you can spend on service on a regular basis. The chance for this falling under a warranty case is 50/50."

So its the price of a service or a bit more (200 Swiss francs) which I can tolerate if its one per year but this shock is 6 months old with not a lot of hours on it.

Im wondering if its really worth it or should I think just switching out for a lower maintenance shock?

Think you answered your own question. I won't touch those shocks. So unreliable and rarely work perfectly. Get a super deluxe ultimate and be done with it.

 

[goroncy]

Just wondering how many guys on here have had issues with the Float X2 rear shock.

I started getting the squelching so I followed up with the dealer (purchased online), who directed me to the importer, who directed me to a local service shop to investigate if its a warranty issue or not. As im in no real hurry to get the shock back I hoped I could get a fix under warranty. From the responses that I got it seems like that is unlikely which is not a huge deal. What concerned me more was the response from the service center;

"Fox Float X2 Performance Elite that has started to make a load squelching noise when compressed

It is a high maintenance shock - don't use unless you can spend on service on a regular basis. The chance for this falling under a warranty case is 50/50."

So its the price of a service or a bit more (200 Swiss francs) which I can tolerate if its one per year but this shock is 6 months old with not a lot of hours on it.

Im wondering if its really worth it or should I think just switching out for a lower maintenance shock?

I cannot believe that Fox Switzerland won't take care of you. I send all defective (within warranty period) forks and shocks to foxracingshox in Germany and they just take care of EVERYTHING. Never had any question asked. We run Fox on almost all our bikes and these things are reliable.

 

[Mr Dog]

Think you answered your own question. I won't touch those shocks. So unreliable and rarely work perfectly. Get a super deluxe ultimate and be done with it.

This would be my alternative - 3 fox services and I bought it. I have never had any issue with RS but I guess its luck of the draw to some extent. I have some super old Fox shocks on some old bikes that I never serviced and they still work. They are from a much simpler generation though.

 

[Mr Dog]

I cannot believe that Fox Switzerland won't take care of you. I send all defective (within warranty period) forks and shocks to foxracingshox in Germany and they just take care of EVERYTHING. Never had any question asked. We run Fox on almost all our bikes and these things are reliable.

Yea, im a little disappointed to be fair. The issue seems to be because I bought the bike outside of Switzerland. The dealer told me to go through the importer, the importer directed me to a local shop, the local shop told me to go back to the dealer and told me the shock was a PITA. I dont mind sucking it up to have it fixed but I dont want to do it every 6 months.

Seems to be the luck of the draw with Fox but I guess you can be unlucky with any brand.

 

[goroncy]

Yea, im a little disappointed to be fair. The issue seems to be because I bought the bike outside of Switzerland. The dealer told me to go through the importer, the importer directed me to a local shop, the local shop told me to go back to the dealer and told me the shock was a PITA. I dont mind sucking it up to have it fixed but I dont want to do it every 6 months.

Seems to be the luck of the draw with Fox but I guess you can be unlucky with any brand.

I think that nowadays the quality of these parts is similar. These are just individual models/batches that sometimes have more problems. But regardless. Did you contact the official distributor "fuchs-movesa" ([email protected])? If you did and they were "nice" enough to say GFY contact Fox directly and state what happened. It was never my impression that Fox doesn't want to stand behind their products. They even helped me with the fork that came from a used ebike I bought and as a second owner I had zero official warranty or guarantee. They just fixed it (issue was with the stuck damper knob - they replaced it with a completely new version that is now protected from water).

 

[Mr Dog]

I think that nowadays the quality of these parts is similar. These are just individual models/batches that sometimes have more problems. But regardless. Did you contact the official distributor "fuchs-movesa" ([email protected])? If you did and they were "nice" enough to say GFY contact Fox directly and state what happened. It was never my impression that Fox doesn't want to stand behind their products. They even helped me with the fork that came from a used ebike I bought and as a second owner I had zero official warranty or guarantee. They just fixed it (issue was with the stuck damper knob - they replaced it with a completely new version that is now protected from water).

Sounds like you had a better experience than me for sure. I did contact fuchs-movesa directly. They were not so rude as to tell me to directly GFM, they politely advised me to go and ask a local dealer to tell me to GFM .

I did contact the dealer again to ask if a service at my own expense would be an easy solution;

> In your experience would a standard service rectify this issue? If so I am happy to send it to you and pay for that to have this resolved.

No, there is many ongoing issues with these

50% chances it's just cavitation and yes it is normal, no it does not fall under warranty and yes this is why X2 service is recommended every 50H of use because it will always cavitate, and as cavitation is gas in the damper, it mean you have no control of the bike whenever this happen

50% chances it is an actual manufacturing defect

0% chances the shock will be trouble free after that

That does not inspire a whole lot of confidence. I have bounced it back to the dealer that I bought the bike from. I will see what they come back with. If I dont get a positive response I will take your advice and reach out to Fox/Giant directly. Right now im not feeling like throwing any money at this. 50 hours per 200chf+ service sucks and my level of riding doesnt warrant that. If I can get a free fix I will give it another try, if not I will ditch it and maybe try a super delux coil.

 

[goroncy]

Sounds like you had a better experience than me for sure. I did contact fuchs-movesa directly. They were not so rude as to tell me to directly GFM, they politely advised me to go and ask a local dealer to tell me to GFM .

I did contact the dealer again to ask if a service at my own expense would be an easy solution;

> In your experience would a standard service rectify this issue? If so I am happy to send it to you and pay for that to have this resolved.

No, there is many ongoing issues with these

50% chances it's just cavitation and yes it is normal, no it does not fall under warranty and yes this is why X2 service is recommended every 50H of use because it will always cavitate, and as cavitation is gas in the damper, it mean you have no control of the bike whenever this happen

50% chances it is an actual manufacturing defect

0% chances the shock will be trouble free after that

That does not inspire a whole lot of confidence. I have bounced it back to the dealer that I bought the bike from. I will see what they come back with. If I dont get a positive response I will take your advice and reach out to Fox/Giant directly. Right now im not feeling like throwing any money at this. 50 hours per 200chf+ service sucks and my level of riding doesnt warrant that. If I can get a free fix I will give it another try, if not I will ditch it and maybe try a super delux coil.

Where did you get 50 hours from? The official for Float X2 is 125 hours or yearly. Whatever comes first. Nevertheless I have to agree that modern Fox shocks are a bummer. With other companies or older Foxes I could do a "small" service (cleaning air chambers, replacing seals if necessary, lubing air chamber) without costly tools. Without going deep (full damper service) I could run a fresh element this way for at least 400 hours. Full service every 3 years. Right now with the X2 taking it apart even slightly is non trivial task. Cost of life is increasing immensely so next suspension parts will be definitely bought so that they are serviceable fully at home (Manitou).

 

[Endorium]

Where did you get 50 hours from? The official for Float X2 is 125 hours or yearly. Whatever comes first. Nevertheless I have to agree that modern Fox shocks are a bummer. With other companies or older Foxes I could do a "small" service (cleaning air chambers, replacing seals if necessary, lubing air chamber) without costly tools. Without going deep (full damper service) I could run a fresh element this way for at least 400 hours. Full service every 3 years. Right now with the X2 taking it apart even slightly is non trivial task. Cost of life is increasing immensely so next suspension parts will be definitely bought so that they are serviceable fully at home (Manitou).

An x2 will never work well if you leave it 125 hours. They are so sensitive. I truely dont know why people rate them. They work well for a few hours and need much more servicing than the fox recommended. Don't know anyone with one nowdays. All switches to rockshox. Can service that at home as well

 

[Redlemon]

I like that last part where they're saying ''0% chances the shock will be trouble free after that''

Service that shock and sell it...replace with a Rockshox Super Deluxe Ultimate air or coil and never worry about your shock anymore even if you skip a service.