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heads up, check your actual oem installed dropper post length vs spec: i just discovered my size L meta power 29 signature came with a 150mm dropper installed when it should have been a 175mm!

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heads up, check your actual oem installed dropper post length vs spec: i just discovered my size L meta power 29 signature came with a 150mm dropper installed when it should have been a 175mm!

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Good luck getting the 175mm version from commencal. They’ll bust out the fine print and tell you to pound salt.
 
My guess is that they didn't have enough 175mm droppers because of the supply issues and had to put 150mm droppers.
 
There is a shortage of parts worldwide which is holding up assembly of many bikes - we are seeing quite a few bikes from various brands coming with slightly different components than advertised as brands are having to fit what they can get hold of to get the bikes out to customers
 
HOPE V4 CALIPER ASSEMBLY SOLUTION :

The only solulion is to buy the
200 MM REAR BRAKE HANGER META POWER V2 (Code: W20MPWBRAKEH200)
a Hope Floating Rotor 203mm
and everything works

220mm rotor CANNOT mount with Hope V4 Caliper

waiting for this combo kit
FENIX + ZEB SC4 CARTRIDGE
 
has anyone figured out a work around/hack for the stupid 20mph limiter? (besides the one shenchman tried) Really annoying...
 
Has anyone found a good bike work stand that fits this beast?
 
The answer for the "droppergate" mystery: it depends when you ordered the bike

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i'm quite sure the spec was listed as 175mm on the size L signature at least when i ordered it 8/31/2020; this link with the original signature color scheme & specs has been static since august as far as i know:
 
i'm quite sure the spec was listed as 175mm on the size L signature at least when i ordered it 8/31/2020; this link with the original signature color scheme & specs has been static since august as far as i know:
I just checked mine, it’s a 150mm.
The L and XL Signature were and still are listed as 175mm.
 
I just checked mine, it’s a 150mm.
The L and XL Signature were and still are listed as 175mm.

screensnip of commencal's response to my complaint (below) attached.
imo their response is lame & they're definitely in the wrong ie the consumer spec was ALWAYS listed as 175mm for size L+XL, whatever their internal b.s. memo said.

that said, given that their USA customer service has been fantastic for everything else (shipped replacement rotor for rotor bent in shipping the next day, consistent & rapid phone responses to other issues i emailed them about etc) as well as the generally excellent value of the parts spec, i'm personally willing to cut them a break & am not going to pursue it. for my 34" inseam on size L, 175mm is too short for the gnar anyway & i have enough base post showing to run a 210mm oneup even though it's longer than the max insertion ie i can't fully slam it down, so i'd be selling the 150mm or 170mm either way.

Sacha
On Dec 21, 2020, at 3:36 PM, sacha.henchman <[email protected]> wrote:

Nicco
Those are commencal's internal specs which i was never privy to; I purchased the bike according to the specs on Commencal : Bike, Frames, Parts, Textile, Outlet, Second Hand.... which I'm certain have listed the size L dropper length as 175mm since it was released 8/31/2020. this link includes the original signature color & component spec:
2021 Commencal Meta Power 29 Signature E-Bike

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related, fyi there's an ongoing fox transfer dropper post seat clamp issue which happened to me as well. it is detailed here:

the narrow shaft below the flared head of each seat rail clamp bolt slots into a groove + hollowed out 'cup' on either end of the upper clamp plate. this is convenient for installation but weak for actually holding the bolt.
failure occurs when the bolt's tension force spreads the groove apart & the bolt pulls out, which WILL ruin your ride at least, if not your ability to have children.
the design is not helped by the fact that the outwardly-angled orientation of the bolts relative to where the flared head sits means the bolts are basically trying to tear themselves out of the groove in the first place.
Fox has redesigned the upper clamp plate, adding more metal to strengthen the area which is supposed to hold the flared bolt heads. on my commie at least i have the pre-redesign upper plate design & it failed; early signs were serious creaking, which i addressed by tightening the bolts further, which made them spread the groove further etc. basically the design sucks & i'm glad to be rid of it in favor of my 210mm oneup, new clamp design or not.
pics attached; new design is on the right & bottom of the pics.
i plan to pursue warranty with Fox or Commencal so i can upgrade to the new clamp design & sell the POS!
i highly recommend getting the new plate design before your post ruins an epic ride, luckily my ride was going to be brief anyway.
happy riding
Sacha

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screensnip of commencal's response to my complaint (below) attached.
imo their response is lame & they're definitely in the wrong ie the consumer spec was ALWAYS listed as 175mm for size L+XL, whatever their internal b.s. memo said.
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That’s unfortunate. When I bought my Decoy a few months ago it came with a 50mm stem, and the website (when I ordered) listed a 40mm stem. I emailed them mostly just asking if I had the wrong stem on accident, and they replied saying that the part spec changed, and that they could not provide a 40mm stem for me. But instead, they refunded me $110 no other questions asked.

Dropper post is a much bigger deal than 10mm difference on a stem, as 150mm is way too short on a large (at least for me).
 
Anyone else has issue with derailleur cable rubbing against the frame? Tried adding some tape, but it cuts straight through - at this rate there will be a hole soon:

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I noticed that this cable was rubbing on the frame also, I put a bit of the soft part of some super sticky Velcro. The soft bits help stop cables tapping on frames and making noises also, I stuck a bit on the head tube as well, not the most attractive but works a treat!

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I noticed that this cable was rubbing on the frame also, I put a bit of the soft part of some super sticky Velcro. The soft bits help stop cables tapping on frames and making noises also, I stuck a bit on the head tube as well, not the most attractive but works a treat!

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Like the Velcro idea - might try that as well. What annoys me with Commencal, is lack of attention to details: my 2018 Meta had cable rub issue as well, except I only noticed when cable basically cut through bottom bracket shell :|
 
It’s amazing how a cable can rub away metal! I stick Velcro anywhere a cable or chain can rub/touch etc my 2014 Kona Process has it all over it, that has cables that tap and a chain that slaps everything!
 
Ive done a few other mods this week, I put a bit of moto foam in the frame cut out above the shock to stop mud and water getting in there it also helps dampen frame noise. I also have a big piece of foam in the hollow bit of the frame above the battery to also deaden frame noise, I also taped some rubber either side of the battery to stop it moving or rattling.

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Yeah I got an email form them with the same info, will be interesting to see if other manufacturers will follow suit. I will follow up my local supplier and see what this means for my pre-order from October, if they know anything at this early stage.

Others will follow suit that is 99% certain, the question is how they will tackle the issue. Some brands will have to raise the MSRP, others will try to keep the MSRP but then cut the dealers profit margin. Everyone in pretty much every industry has been impacted by this.
 
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