And ……. We are offf. The Fanbois are here.
If the Amflow isn’t the most powerful EMTB , then it’s just another generic Chinese frame with “borrowed”design elements.
This thread is now tainted with Amfam stink ….
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And ……. We are offf. The Fanbois are here.
I can also go faster on my Sur-Ron, not even having to pedal. I have ridden both bikes and preferred the Levo prior to the power upgrade, its just a way better ride. If power is your only defining metric for an eMTB, congrats! That gap just closed considerably.
I can also go faster on my Sur-Ron, not even having to pedal. I have ridden both bikes and preferred the Levo prior to the power upgrade, its just a way better ride. If power is your only defining metric for an eMTB, congrats! That gap just closed considerably.![]()
Again, did you watch the video as he literally said that the Amflow had the 1000watt option but was tested at the previous lower power setting of Amflow (850 watts). So what did you miss?You're missing the point : I was responding to the linked benchmark/comparison, which is inaccurate and incomplete, which has been confirmed by the individual who actually did the testing. That's all. My KTM 300 is faster too. Not the point.
Seems like 850w compared to 850w is an acceptable comparison.Again, did you watch the video as he literally said that the Amflow had the 1000watt option but was tested at the previous lower power setting of Amflow (850 watts). So what did you miss?
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Not only did it seem fair but the numbers are what should stand out, 1.2 mph (average faster) at same the 850watts . What do you think that 150watts remaining from the Amflow will net it on the climb? Diminishing returns the faster you go....Seems like 850w compared to 850w is an acceptable comparison.
The spamflow riders will not like this result. We should hear something shortly
They will say he was pedaling harder… or something, so the depreciation on their fine DJI rides slows down![]()
Ok boss. Whatever you say.Again, did you watch the video as he literally said that the Amflow had the 1000watt option but was tested at the previous lower power setting of Amflow (850 watts). So what did you miss?
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Rider power and skill makes at least as much difference. And beyond power, bike balance and geometry, tires, power delivery and controllability all play a role. But Francis’s test was all about climbing speed with equal rider input.dont get me wrong the updates a great thing, but in reference to the amflow comments is this all emtb is now ? whose got fastest motor to get top of hill?
My ebikes still got more power than my legs and thats what matters when i take my emtb out, not turning round to my mates and being like I GOT TO TOP FIRST CAUSE MINE HAS MORE POWER.
That doesn't sound right to meAnyone wanting to hear the walk mode
That a great numbers, round about 40km with 3000hm in this Mode possibleToday I did another test ride with the new firmware update, all done with Dynamic Microtune 0/100 (which I really like) to see if there was any improvement in fuel consumption. I started with 80% and reached the top of the climb with 30% less. But it's the feeling of this assistance that I like most of all, I really think I'll use only this from now on; sure, you have to put in some effort, but the motor's response is excellent, even on steep climbs where you obviously need to choose agile gears and adopt a more muscular riding style. Personally, I'm very happy with this update. Well done, Specialized! You've given me the bike I wanted.
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No way are you going to lose 100 watts from the motor to the rear wheel. My Stumpy Evo loses 5 watts through the chain measured from the pedals compared to the rear cassette. More drag on a e-bike motor but not 100 watts.Apparently is 750watt at the rear wheel which is what Specialized is claiming with 850watt at the crank. So just bad luck for Bosch
If you go back to post #16 you will see this discussion is already finishedBosch stays within the 750Wh limit which qualifies their motor to race which is why they have 90% saturation. As far as I understand if your bike exceeds the 750Wh rating it does not qualify to race. Correct me if I’m wrong.
What limiter? Thermal?Rode mine today a lot better battery consumption, mostly used auto -
Did a hill race with my mate on amflow both hit limiter quick he was still slightly in front but not as much. I had to put in way more effort than him to get the power tho.
Motor seems quieter as well but not sure if that’s in my head.
Post a screenshot of your overrun settingsI'm asking anyone who's tried the new firmware: when you stop pedaling, or when you shift gears and start pushing the pedals again, the motor engages rather forcefully, causing the ebike to leap forward a little. Does this happen to you too? It's not a major issue, but I'd like the engagement to be more gradual...
Minimal overrun as well as shuttle and responsivenessPost a screenshot of your overrun settings
Which mode are you in? The way you describe your experience doesn’t jive with what I’ve felt. I had stock eco settings and over run set to low. It was very smooth.I'm asking anyone who's tried the new firmware: when you stop pedaling, or when you shift gears and start pushing the pedals again, the motor engages rather forcefully, causing the ebike to leap forward a little. Does this happen to you too? It's not a major issue, but I'd like the engagement to be more gradual...
I noticed this feature with the dynamic micro tune setting 0/100Which mode are you in? The way you describe your experience doesn’t jive with what I’ve felt. I had stock eco settings and over run set to low. It was very smooth.
I have never seen a smoother trail. Honestly.Have now 4 good long rides with the update. Battery consumption is nearly the same. My usual 16 mile, 2100 ft, 1:20 loop in Turbo 100% of the time used to result in ~44% battery remaining. Now it's maybe 42%. I have no idea how they delivered 22% more power while mostly retaining identical battery consumption. Kudos to Specialized's engineering team.
I have similar thoughts about motor noise as @Ribinrobin. Seems like somehow the motor makes less noise under certain conditions. Even my action cam footage backs this up.
This fact is clearly established by the following footage from yesterday.