Levo Gen 4 Specialized Gen 4 Levo - Official Thread
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Me too but sales is always a corporate secrecy
I find it surprising how many Levo 4 have ugly paint. I’ve been on the fence about building an S-Works Levo frame, and truly believe I’d already have pulled the trigger if I thought the paint looked good.
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Eduardoramundo
E*POWAH Master
No dropper and a fat seat. Is this for canal paths?
DuncanDoughnuts
Active member
That is going to glow in the dark ..... is that what they mean with supernatural?
Somebody on Pinkbike priced that build if done from the ground up with the S works frame only kit and you can do it cheaper yourself.
KJP1230 (14 hours ago)
I was curious, so I quickly checked the numbers to simply build it yourself:
S-Works Frameset w/shock - $7,499
Fox Podium Fork - $2,000
Trickstuff Maxima Brake Set & Rotors - $1,300
SRAM XX Transmission Group (including crank) - $1,700
Premium Stem of your choosing - $90
Premium Handlebar of your choosing - $120
Grips - $50
Fox Transfer NEO - $650
Premium Tires - $200
S-Works Saddle w TI Rails - $465
This Wheelset - $1,700
Cane Creek E-rate Ti Crankset - $1,300
Premium Headset of your choosing - $200
Premium BB of your choosing - $200
$17,474 is the MSRP value of this bike, and that would leave you with a spare crankset, as well as tires, wheelset, stem, handlebar of your own preference. Because I more-or-less went with full MSRP on these parts, one could quite easily trim another $1-2k from this budget by simply price shopping from major retailers. You could have an improved spec version for $15k with minimal effort.
I remember the days when a consumer could safely expect a reasonable "discount" on full build kits relative to the MSRP of all the parts involved. Then again I understand the product manager's vision here: "There are enough people in the world who will take out their credit card to simply have the "best" or most expensive product."
It's not that difficult to get a discount at the shop if you got a customer history.
Easy 10-20%
Sore butt....And as Mr. "T" would say.....I Pity the Fool that cant ride without a dropper!
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You don't need a customer history for that, I already see some EU shops have Gen4 Levos already up to 16% off without even asking for discount ...
Don't know in the rest of the world but in Norway it's massive discounts on all the SL versions just now like it was on G3 before Levo 4 was unveiled.
Maybe Specialized is coming up with a new super light version or is that marked dead?
Imagine "Super light Super natural" that's undoubtedly big leaps.
Eduardoramundo
E*POWAH Master
Got a link?
Supernatural lightness ... Weight added from multiple dimensions.
If they follow their current design language ...
"The new supernatural Levo SL, don't feel different, it looks just like a full fat bike only fatter"
The SLs have been on discount for quite a while. Specialized released a MY26 build Levo and Kenevo SL and some frame only options in a new colour recently so I think it will next year before we see a refresh.
Shipping out of the country ain't cheap but they do say free pedals, bottle, front fender and shipping so give it a try
Specialized Turbo SL Arkiver - VILLE.no
Specialized Turbo SL til VILLE priser! Alle sykler leveres ferdig satt opp med gratis frakt, pedaler, drikkeflaske og fremskjerm fra oss 🚀
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Eduardoramundo
E*POWAH Master
Those are not G4 discounts. Only interested in G4.Shipping out of the country ain't cheap but they do say free pedals, bottle, front fender and shipping so give it a try
Specialized Turbo SL Arkiver - VILLE.no
Specialized Turbo SL til VILLE priser! Alle sykler leveres ferdig satt opp med gratis frakt, pedaler, drikkeflaske og fremskjerm fra oss 🚀
SL’s have been discounted for ages.
Sorry I replied to the wrong post.
How long is ages?
garethky
New Member
I did a bit of bike trekking/bikepacking with my Levo 4. We covered 190 miles over 4 days on the Olympic Discovery Trail:
This almost entirely paved. Each day was about 50 miles with around 2000 feet of elevation gain. I was in a group with analog bikes so the pace was about 10mph average speed. Ridden like this, with support mainly at 10/10, I never got below 60% battery each day. I was also carrying about 20 pounds of gear, including that obnoxiously heavy turbo charger.
This seems to suggest that if you ride slow (and pedal!) you could get 100 miles + 4000 feet out of the battery. This is far better range than I was getting with my Gen3 Bosch bike where a 625Wh pack was stretching to do 50 miles. 10/10 still provides about 80 watts of support. This is higher than the Eco mode on the Bosch which is 60 watts. The Levo also pedals really efficiently with the motor off. So in cases where I was putting out less than 100 watts I could just shut it off and it didn't feel like a hardship. The motor is very quiet under about 150 watts so its not a distraction in a group ride.
I have thoughts on the software, we could use more control for this kind of riding, but maybe that's another post.
This almost entirely paved. Each day was about 50 miles with around 2000 feet of elevation gain. I was in a group with analog bikes so the pace was about 10mph average speed. Ridden like this, with support mainly at 10/10, I never got below 60% battery each day. I was also carrying about 20 pounds of gear, including that obnoxiously heavy turbo charger.
This seems to suggest that if you ride slow (and pedal!) you could get 100 miles + 4000 feet out of the battery. This is far better range than I was getting with my Gen3 Bosch bike where a 625Wh pack was stretching to do 50 miles. 10/10 still provides about 80 watts of support. This is higher than the Eco mode on the Bosch which is 60 watts. The Levo also pedals really efficiently with the motor off. So in cases where I was putting out less than 100 watts I could just shut it off and it didn't feel like a hardship. The motor is very quiet under about 150 watts so its not a distraction in a group ride.
I have thoughts on the software, we could use more control for this kind of riding, but maybe that's another post.
Did you have any reservations about the rack being supported by the carbon rear triangle? I was a bit unsure about that myself and went with the Tailfin system (mounts on axel + dropper post).
garethky
New Member
I'm switching to the Tailfin. I'm not worried about the carbon breaking but I have other problems with it:
- Switching the bike over to MTB means removing a whole bunch of screws. Even removing the rack trail side to fix a flat is a real pain. With the Tailfin it can be tool-less.
- The plastic blocks that hold the stays keep shifting. I pulled on the zip ties with pliers but that doesn't hold them in place. If it slips off the protective tape it will rub on the frame.
- The OMM axle uses this non-standard cross hole to tighten so you cant put a torque wrench on it.
- The OMM rack is built like a tank but heavy like one too.
Picked up a demo Expert at a great price. Took a quick test run; and really looking forward to a real ride tomorrow now that I got it setup for myself.
westcoastmtbr
Active member
The Amflow thread shows a guy who built up and Euduro Style Amflow Base Model with 38 fork, enduro tires, etc. etc.. His weight was tipping 49lbs. I'm laughing, cause if the Avinox carbon frame was as beefy and strong as the levo frame that could handle a 180mm fork, and have a removable battery (adds weight), then are we to assume the Amflow would be around 53+ pounds. Oh, add the frame on the Amflow is too flexy for a big rider (over 190lbs). Oh, also add on the extra weight of the batter too (not much but some) then what is all talk of it's so superior as for weight and the Specialized is soooooo heavy. Guessing all of the bikes, including the Crestline will all be over 50lbs when compared together, and so this is quite interesting and funny too. Specialized needs to do some updated marketing.
Sorry but the Specialized is heavy and the Release was one year to Late to impress!
I scanned the post and did not try to make too much sense out of the comments but in a nutshell the Amflow at 49#s (22.2 kg) with a fox 38 I would be happy as a clam to own as an all mountain bike. For a pure DH burly Machine with a premium price and questionable aesthetics the Turbo Levo would definitely be a great bike to own. As much as I like the Avinox motor, I would be more inclined to go with Gen 5 Bosch for efficiency, reliability, and sound qualities, I am hard pressed to get the distance out of an 800 Wh battery I would choose 85 nm Bosch for range. With that being said, boy is the Amflow fun to ride in boost mode
And for a downhill bike the Turbo Levo s-works that I rode was hard to beat for pure ability.
Plus it is a cool looking with the custom bits that I can see - Podium, radials, hi-rise bar, hand guards and non-Kashima post looks great. What else am I missing?
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