Levo Gen 4 Specialized Gen 4 Levo - Official Thread

Had my first decent spin with the new S-Works frameset build. The power is truly incredible, and can get you in as much trouble or fun as you want 🤘🏽

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Out of curiosity, how do you weigh the value of the s-works frameset compared to the cheapest carbon full bike?
 
DuncanDoughnuts said:
what happened ?
and where you riding ?
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see you're also a saffa - I ride in the western cape

It started with losing power randomly like lots of others have experienced, which we thought was the battery nest issue which is well known. I then started noticing that the motor would cut on a climb when the rear of the bike hit a rut or got a jolt which would suggest perhaps a loose connection.

I then started noticing the motor wasn't as quiet anymore and started getting the "ebike motor clunk" sound that you usually get with all other motors. ie - gear or clutch rattle when disengaged

Then, on climbs my motor would make a distinct CLUNK sound and the power would cut randomly causing a sudden stall.

turn around for a new motor was 48 hours, should be getting it back today..... I'm quite annoyed to say the least. Especially with all the new DJI bikes out, and new parts on the bikes. I feel a little robbed by Spez.
Other than that - my fork seals were bone dry from new, I have already replaced the genie shock due to cavitation.
It's a well known fact that the Gen 4 sat in warehouse for a VERY long time before release for numerous reasons.

Feels like a lemon purchase.
@ckkone - no need to laugh at every post - we know how you feel
 
Hitorogoshi said:
see you're also a saffa - I ride in the western cape

It started with losing power randomly like lots of others have experienced, which we thought was the battery nest issue which is well known. I then started noticing that the motor would cut on a climb when the rear of the bike hit a rut or got a jolt which would suggest perhaps a loose connection.

I then started noticing the motor wasn't as quiet anymore and started getting the "ebike motor clunk" sound that you usually get with all other motors. ie - gear or clutch rattle when disengaged

Then, on climbs my motor would make a distinct CLUNK sound and the power would cut randomly causing a sudden stall.

turn around for a new motor was 48 hours, should be getting it back today..... I'm quite annoyed to say the least. Especially with all the new DJI bikes out, and new parts on the bikes. I feel a little robbed by Spez.
Other than that - my fork seals were bone dry from new, I have already replaced the genie shock due to cavitation.
It's a well known fact that the Gen 4 sat in warehouse for a VERY long time before release for numerous reasons.

Feels like a lemon purchase.
@ckkone - no need to laugh at every post - we know how you feel
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Ok, the fork and Genie I can understand. The cutting out is an issue, and lets hope the motor clunk is a once off.
I also get how you feel about being robbed, for me more like ripped one. With the Bosch getting free updates to more power and a "premium brand" still stuck behind with a new model. (Im sure the 101/666 (im common folk) is way more than I need, but 101/750 would be better ... even 105/750 to keep up with what's happening at eurobike for the poor mans version.

How does it handle things like the Contemans DH and rhinos ? that's kind of my bread and butter ride.
And have you tried the Class 1 setting on bloemendaler ? that is the only place I would see myself using it to clear those long doubles.
 
DuncanDoughnuts said:
Ok, the fork and Genie I can understand. The cutting out is an issue, and lets hope the motor clunk is a once off.
I also get how you feel about being robbed, for me more like ripped one. With the Bosch getting free updates to more power and a "premium brand" still stuck behind with a new model. (Im sure the 101/666 (im common folk) is way more than I need, but 101/750 would be better ... even 105/750 to keep up with what's happening at eurobike for the poor mans version.

How does it handle things like the Contemans DH and rhinos ? that's kind of my bread and butter ride.
And have you tried the Class 1 setting on bloemendaler ? that is the only place I would see myself using it to clear those long doubles.
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the bike will do just fine at conties and rhinos. I ride primarliy helderberg and jonkers so the bike takes some hits.
I tested class 3 and you gotta work hard, for some reason our sworks models here are 250w nominal for class 3 and the us had 350... as if we get the same as the standard motor in class 3. I will testing it more at a place like banhoek where it's smooth and pedally
 
Nice build. When did you order/receive your S works framset and are you in USA?
I have had my Sworks s3 frame on order since April release, and still have not received any info. from Dealer in Reno, NV as to delivery date
 
singletrackminded said:
Nice build. When did you order/receive your S works framset and are you in USA?
I have had my Sworks s3 frame on order since April release, and still have not received any info. from Dealer in Reno, NV as to delivery date
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I ordered thru my local Specialized retailer LBS, in FL, on order since April as well I think. Hang in there man I spent ages waiting too. I had my shop push em a few times FWIW
 
Hitorogoshi said:
see you're also a saffa - I ride in the western cape

It started with losing power randomly like lots of others have experienced, which we thought was the battery nest issue which is well known. I then started noticing that the motor would cut on a climb when the rear of the bike hit a rut or got a jolt which would suggest perhaps a loose connection.

I then started noticing the motor wasn't as quiet anymore and started getting the "ebike motor clunk" sound that you usually get with all other motors. ie - gear or clutch rattle when disengaged

Then, on climbs my motor would make a distinct CLUNK sound and the power would cut randomly causing a sudden stall.

turn around for a new motor was 48 hours, should be getting it back today..... I'm quite annoyed to say the least. Especially with all the new DJI bikes out, and new parts on the bikes. I feel a little robbed by Spez.
Other than that - my fork seals were bone dry from new, I have already replaced the genie shock due to cavitation.
It's a well known fact that the Gen 4 sat in warehouse for a VERY long time before release for numerous reasons.

Feels like a lemon purchase.
@ckkone - no need to laugh at every post - we know how you feel
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I also feel a bit robbed by Spesh. I feel like the majority of folks that are having issues are the S-Works owners. Seems insane that Spesh didn't sort these issues out before selling a $14,000 USD e-bike.

As salty as I am, I still love this bike (when it's working).

XenomBloom said:
Yes, I went 170 as I found a great deal on it, ran my past Gen1 SL with 160 so I felt pretty safe with this bump
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How does it feel set up as 170mm up front? Are you in the high or low geo setting, short or long chain stay position? I just ordered a 170mm air spring for my 38. I was having some recent pedal strikes in the low geo setting, so I'm looking forward to a slightly higher BB with the 170 set up.
 
sheamus710 said:
I also feel a bit robbed by Spesh. I feel like the majority of folks that are having issues are the S-Works owners. Seems insane that Spesh didn't sort these issues out before selling a $14,000 USD e-bike.

As salty as I am, I still love this bike (when it's working).



How does it feel set up as 170mm up front? Are you in the high or low geo setting, short or long chain stay position? I just ordered a 170mm air spring for my 38. I was having some recent pedal strikes in the low geo setting, so I'm looking forward to a slightly higher BB with the 170 set up.
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I haven't gotten to test in chunkier terrain, but FWIW I am currently running Low Geo and a long chain stay. No issues on my end with clearance of the BB/pedal strikes thus far!
 
roccobarocco said:
Anyone know, if the Levo supports Coast shifting with AXS Transmission?
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Speaking of the SRAM Transmission, has anyone been having issues with their SRAM XX Eagle Transmission? I have had the rear Derailleur replaced and it still can't seem to hold a gear. I literally took it on yesterday and after 4miles of road to the trail and 1 mile of dirt it started skipping. I have literally had more skipping / no shifts on this bike in a single day then I have on my other bikes in a year. Crazy... but at this point electronic shifting seems like garbage.
 
Power1tobe said:
Speaking of the SRAM Transmission, has anyone been having issues with their SRAM XX Eagle Transmission? I have had the rear Derailleur replaced and it still can't seem to hold a gear. I literally took it on yesterday and after 4miles of road to the trail and 1 mile of dirt it started skipping. I have literally had more skipping / no shifts on this bike in a single day then I have on my other bikes in a year. Crazy... but at this point electronic shifting seems like garbage.
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Use the app and dial it in. It works flawlessly for me and I ride a lot. I love it.
 
What pressures are people running in the Genie?

I am 84kg and with 245psi still bottoming out.

Gonna try a Blue bottom out spacer and see how it goes.
 
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I rented and rode the gen4 Levo Pro. My current bike is a gen3 alloy comp (though has no unupdated parts).

I don't think I expected a huge difference, but the difference is massive. The gen4 is so lively and feels wildly more maneuverable. It's also lighter than my current gen3. I'm aware mine is not anywhere near as light as gen3 can get. I found the power in Turbo or Auto to be more than I need, so I did the majority of my ride in 20/100 dynamic microtune mode. It felt comparable in power to my gen3 in turbo, but far more natural and controllable.

I've heard rumblings of the battery draining faster than the gen3, but I can state confidently those people are just using a lot more assistance than they were on their gen3. I did a 30 mile 3,700 ft ride, which I definitely could not have done on my gen3, and that included quite a lot of Turbo miles of uphill road on my way back, and I ended with 15% battery remaining.

Overall, I find myself highly tempted by the new gen4. I plan to do a similar experiment with the Santa Cruz Vala once the Bosch motor update comes out, and see if that is similarly eye-opening.
 
Eduardoramundo said:
Yep, definitely.
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I'm 93kg and running 285psi as per Specialized recommendations and its perfect and never bottoms out on decent jumps and drop-offs. I would let out and re-pressurise the shock in 50psi steps, cycling the shock through its travel at each step to make sure you have the correct balance between the positive and negative air chambers. If that doesn't fix it, get it back to your dealer cos one of the main features of the Genie is it shouldn't bottom out !
 
It’s also worth checking your shock pump if it’s the only one you’ve got, I’m not sure why we sometimes trust the £2 pressure gauge on a £30 shock pump so implicitly.

The shock might not be at the pressure the gauge is reading is all I’m saying.

If it’s pumped up to the correct sag though, ignoring the gauge, then it could be a shock issue.
 
if you don't have a really good shock pump you're going to lose at least 30 to 50psi when removing the pump at those high pressures. I usually pump 30psi over my target to get the perfect psi
 
DirkWisely said:
I rented and rode the gen4 Levo Pro. My current bike is a gen3 alloy comp (though has no unupdated parts).

" I did the majority of my ride in 20/100 dynamic microtune mode. "
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You could save even more power. When tuning convention of the gen4 (AA/BB), the A represents "Ease "of access to power (how hard you have to pedal to access the motor power), and the BB represents motor power (so 100 = 100% of power), if you tune the bike down to some like 25/25 or lower it use even less power. At 20/100 you still had access to 100% of the bikes power, you just needed to pedal harder to access it all.

But your correct ppl complaining about its power use are riding with a ton of assist.
 
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