Reign E+ 2022

Also just FYI. I fucked my back wheel shorting a jump.
Knew these would not last however totally my fault.
Building some fr560 with hope pro 4 until my hunt ebike wheels arrive
 
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Rode my new reign +2 today 1st time in anger really different ride to my previous bike and will take some time to setup and get used to the potential is there suspension is so good and plush couple of my thoughts on the new pwx3 motor jeez does the limiter make it feel like it hits the wall u get up to 15mph so quick then wallop it stops also tried the auto mode for the 1st time from low down the power felt dead until you really push down on the pedals and then it pulls right through unlike a bosch bike ive ridden that is there from almost standstill.maybe its just changing the way i ride to get the most from the motor.
 
goroncy said:
I think you act to hastily. Wait those 48 hours. I bricked my bike this way 3 times. No permanent damage was done. You need to update the firmware multiple times after that with your phone. Don't change any settings through the app. Make sure that firmware has the newest possible version. At that point everything should work. Brightness change too.
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So I got the spare control go unit in the mail today. It did not fix the issue. Same behaviour of cycling through all white leds, then right white and left one blue spot. I'll let the bike try to heal itself over the next days. If that does not help, back to the dealer I guess.

The issue seems not be related to the top tube element but rather to some eprom or whatever the chip is called in the motor unit most likely.
 
sprousaTM said:
So I got the spare control go unit in the mail today. It did not fix the issue. Same behaviour of cycling through all white leds, then right white and left one blue spot. I'll let the bike try to heal itself over the next days. If that does not help, back to the dealer I guess.

The issue seems not be related to the top tube element but rather to some eprom or whatever the chip is called in the motor unit most likely.
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Sorry to hear that. What a freekin nightmare. I hope you have a non ebike to rinse away the frustration.
 
So I have an issue 🙁 bikes switches on and motor works, but I cannot change modes with the buttons on the bars or by pressing the power button. Can't even switch it off, just have to leave it till it auto switched off. Any ideas?
 
Replaced the DPX2 with a Super Deluxe Ultimate on my E+2.

The DPX2 was fine and the small bump compliance was super soft, but I had to pump it up @ max 350psi all the time and wasn't able to achieve 30% sag. I hated to pump that thing so much & the sag was a bit too much. Super Deluxe requires 70-80 less psi to achieve 30%sag.

Large negative chambers on Fox rear shocks are killing it for me as I'm an heavy guy...it's even worse with the X2 as it's 300psi max.

Super Deluxe is smooth, but the shock is definetely not as soft up top as the DPX2.



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So I waited 48 hours with no battery in the frame. Still the same issue. Friend of mine has a Giant as well as I have found out that uses a Giant RideControl Ergo SG unit. I guess I ll try to hook that up to the main cable and see if that works as someone in the thread has used it for a while. Maybe that gets rid of the issues and I can go back to the normal remote/ridecontrol. Last think I ll try tomorrow or wednesday.

Would really love to understand the source of the issue, but cannot find any manuals, technical information to the pw-x3 motor. No explosion views, no internal stats.
 
It is not as easy as that. Well basically it is, sure. The bike is leased by my work, but I "bought" it from a shop , that is quite a bit away. They have some strange rules with bike leasing and where you bring the bike to. I can of course bring it to the dealer I bought it from, which is a 5 hour ride back and forth or shipping on my costs both ways. Or bring it to a local shop that can do the warranty claim, but that charges 60€ by default since it is not the original dealer :D Either way you are right of course.
Still, if it happens more than once and it is as easy as just swapping a different controller over for a second I'd rather do that then bring the bike to the local dealer over and over again.
 
Myself and three other pals all have new Reigns. Two of them are having problems with random shut downs and non responsive controls. Not a very encouraging percentage. Fingers crossed Giant get on top of whatever these quality control problems are quickly.
 
kgoran79 said:
What size mounting hardware do I need
for the rear shock?
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None, the bottom eyelet has no DU bushing and the axle serves as the pivot. The top trunnion fixing bolts and spacers are those supplied with the bike. 11nm torque.
When changing, or servicing the shock do not pull the bottom pivot bolt all the way out. Pull it through enough to release the shock, about 66%, this means the rear triangle stays in place and easy to put back together.
 
Always wait a year when new versions come out and let the first guys lose their shirts as the beta testers.
Meanwhile buy the previous version cheap on run out.
This is a rule in all situations in life.
 
emtbeast said:
This is what I am writing about...it was advertised with the PW-X 2 and it looks it's no different with the PW-X 3...

Four sensors inside the motor housing, coupled with finely tuned algorithms for the drive control, result in higher sensibility to the rider’s input. The Quad Sensor System uses an angle sensor to detect the bike’s angle of climb or descent, as well as ride speed, crank rotation and pedalling torque sensors.

SYSTEM

Learn about the technology that makes Yamaha's power assist systems special
global.yamaha-motor.com global.yamaha-motor.com

So I am left wondering if Giant just forgot to incorporate this in their firmware, because I have mode 4 (High) support on flat road or even downhill in Auto mode...

That's why I asked if someone that had tried a pure Yamaha system can give some insight...

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I have a Yamaha moro emtb with the X-2 motor and use the Auto mode occasionally, usually on uphills. It does work except the eco mode is almost useless on these Yamaha tuned motors because there is virtually no assist; so when you hit flat ground and you're not accelerating there is drag.
 
Kingerz said:
Always wait a year when new versions come out and let the first guys lose their shirts as the beta testers.
Meanwhile buy the previous version cheap on run out.
This is a rule in all situations in life.
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There are some shocking pics appearing of water ingress damage on the 2022 models now.. glad I held off on my order now, that was giving me nightmares
 
Another headsup concerning the Ridecontrol Go Unit. Was able to swap the Ridecontrol Ergo 1 SG unit from a friends bike over to mine. The unit is a standalone while the Ridecontrol Go unit seems to only function with the handlebar remote as a team.
After switching it works flawlessly. Can switch the bike on/off and change modes. The bike does not switch off by itself. I did connect via bluetooth with no problems.
Switching back to the stock configuration the issue is still there which makes me believe that maybe (at least in my case) the Ergo handlebar controller might be dead and not the part in the top tube with the LEDs. Would make sense since a different toptube unit had the same problem and the standalone controller works with no issues.
Sent back the spare unit and will get a different handlebar remote next, which is cheaper than paying the warrantyclaim fee.

@goroncy and @mummyb0t One of you had something replaced? Did they actually change the handlebar 3 button remote or the thing in the top tube?
 
sprousaTM said:
Another headsup concerning the Ridecontrol Go Unit. Was able to swap the Ridecontrol Ergo 1 SG unit from a friends bike over to mine. The unit is a standalone while the Ridecontrol Go unit seems to only function with the handlebar remote as a team.
After switching it works flawlessly. Can switch the bike on/off and change modes. The bike does not switch off by itself. I did connect via bluetooth with no problems.
Switching back to the stock configuration the issue is still there which makes me believe that maybe (at least in my case) the Ergo handlebar controller might be dead and not the part in the top tube with the LEDs. Would make sense since a different toptube unit had the same problem and the standalone controller works with no issues.
Sent back the spare unit and will get a different handlebar remote next, which is cheaper than paying the warrantyclaim fee.

@goroncy and @mummyb0t One of you had something replaced? Did they actually change the handlebar 3 button remote or the thing in the top tube?
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Nothing swapped in my case. So talk to the mummy :).
 
Anyone know if its ok to ride the Reign 2022 without the battery installed, due to go to Europe later this year and can't fly with the battery. It'll be uplift only though so no need for a battery, would mean I could sell my Nomad.
 
ifu03558 said:
Anyone know if its ok to ride the Reign 2022 without the battery installed, due to go to Europe later this year and can't fly with the battery. It'll be uplift only though so no need for a battery, would mean I could sell my Nomad.
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It's perfectly fine to ride park on this bike without the battery.
 
goroncy said:
It's perfectly fine to ride park on this bike without the battery.
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Better question might be why someone would want to beat on it for park when used DH rigs are so cheap.

Since there's a big question mark around the availability and cost of spares, I'd be looking for something cheap and used.
 
ifu03558 said:
Mibbe cos I don't want to buy another bike mate, the DH bike would need spares etc too.
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You need to service the fork and damper. If you do it with the help of professional service it will set you back 400EUR. Yourself ~100EUR for parts + 2 days wasted which is far more valuable in most cases than 300EUR. Replacing all the bearings in frame, hubs and pedals - 180EUR by pro, 80EUR just bearings (20EUR if you want Chinese crap). New brake pads and fluid in brakes: 80EUR by pro and 30EUR for pads alone. Usually tires of a used dh bike will last you 1 week in bike park. So new tires 80EUR. Now the question. Is bottom bracket ok or needs new bearings or replacing (Shimano), are headset bearings ok, are there any repairs needed in fork or damper other than usual maintenance, are the wheels good enough so that they can be straight without being dangerously unevenly tensioned, are brake disks ok, what about the drivetrain?

If you want to buy used dh bike and ride a machine that definitely wasn't serviced recently then yeah. It's relatively cheap. If you want to make it 80% good and use a mechanic you will need to pay north of 700EUR or comparable currency. If you would like to do it yourself it will cost you much more because time of a mechanic is usually not that expensive. And this is with an assumption that nothing is broken. 1000EUR/USD is much more probable.

But... Buying enduro/trail bike for park is in some cases a slightly better idea. They are usually less beaten up than dh bikes.
 
And another information concerning the problems with software/hardware. It seems I have actually fixed the issue for now.

While working I was thinking abolut trying out the other input for the handlebar remote on the cable of the ControlGO unit. Did not work. Then for whatever reason I switched it on (all LEDs lighting up white), could not switch it off.. After it shut down by itself, switched it back on (Battery LED line white, mode middle lighting up in blue for dynamic mode). I pulled of the ControlGO top tube unit while switched on and reconnected the cord. ControlGO unit worked normally after that. Modes can be switched even with the handlebar remote.

thought I had it, but it switched off again. After turning it on, white leds again. Next cycle with blue LED, pulled it of again and reconnected it.. Connected via bluetooth APP and it actually showed an update that was not there before. Installed the update and after that it works flawlessly. It does switch off after a while of standing around (I guess thats normal?!), but can be turned back on without an issue.

Sooo TL;DR: When your Remote cycles between all white LEDs and White blue, disconnect the Ride Control GO unit while in the blue cycle and instantly reconnect it. check the Giant App if there is an update and install (or probably reinstall the update). I guess in my case the update did not go through correctly and hard disconnecting it from power seems to fix it for a moment.
 
sprousaTM said:
And another information concerning the problems with software/hardware. It seems I have actually fixed the issue for now.

While working I was thinking abolut trying out the other input for the handlebar remote on the cable of the ControlGO unit. Did not work. Then for whatever reason I switched it on (all LEDs lighting up white), could not switch it off.. After it shut down by itself, switched it back on (Battery LED line white, mode middle lighting up in blue for dynamic mode). I pulled of the ControlGO top tube unit while switched on and reconnected the cord. ControlGO unit worked normally after that. Modes can be switched even with the handlebar remote.

thought I had it, but it switched off again. After turning it on, white leds again. Next cycle with blue LED, pulled it of again and reconnected it.. Connected via bluetooth APP and it actually showed an update that was not there before. Installed the update and after that it works flawlessly. It does switch off after a while of standing around (I guess thats normal?!), but can be turned back on without an issue.

Sooo TL;DR: When your Remote cycles between all white LEDs and White blue, disconnect the Ride Control GO unit while in the blue cycle and instantly reconnect it. check the Giant App if there is an update and install (or probably reinstall the update). I guess in my case the update did not go through correctly and hard disconnecting it from power seems to fix it for a moment.
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Giant should contract with you as eeb consultant... 👍
 
Ouch, you can ride it for sure but tape it up so nothing can get into the connections if it's dry. I mean Sahara Desert dry. I wouldn't even do that myself. If it's wet, It's NOT ok.
 
Got the first ride in yesterday. About 16kilometers and 620meters vertical.. Most of those were pushing my son up the hills on dynamic or max support mode.

Drained battery about 40% which is good I think. Would add up to around 40km and 1500 vertical.

Motor seems punchy but seems to like higher cadence better than lower one. I like it a lot though.

I am actually blown away by the entry level rockshox domain r with only low speed rebound adjustment and the fox dps damper. The maestro backend paired with the entry lvl damper works really good. Got it spot on first try on rebound and sag.
Domain on the front is plush until medium impacts and on top. I am really pleased with the first ride. Was thinking about an upgrade before I got it. Riding a ZEB ultimate with an x2 perf. Elite on my forbidden dreadnought which sure feels better but right now I really cannot see myself buying another damper for the reign. Maybe the rc2.1 damper for the domain.
On hard hits it does feel really harsh, but those don't happen all that often on our trails.
 
Hey guys here is my (trying to ride with as much fun as possible but extending the range) ride from today.

I rode with my buddy that has the 500Wh previous Reign E+0 derestricted...he had to finish earlier(family stuff) then me.
For comparison he drained the full battery down just like me to 10%, did 45,1km with an altitude gain of 1166m.

Just putting it out there if someone finds it useful if not also good...let it be 👍

So on downhills and flat asphalt I used almost no assistance...there is not a lot of places on my trails where assistance is useful as they are pretty steep and I still like the feel of pedaling a bio bike. I also feel it's easier to pedal the bike on flat at 24kph without the stupid assistance cutting out/in...

I love to do a workout on my bike not just have fun, so I used the appropriate assistance modes to keep my HR high for a 40y old guy(average 144, max 189). I used all modes except 5 which I think it's overkill for most situations.

What suprised me the most were the two full on sprints on a fire road and a path. I gave all I had on these, almost pushing at the bike at the 25km/h limit, the battery consumption in both cases was 10%

I did quite a lot of riding in A mode to get the feel of it and must say I am getting to like it a bit more, anyway it does need a little more refinement though.

Outside temps today were around 15° to 21°C
My weight respectable 89kg fully geared up...
My bike full stock E+1 625...except a few cosmetic changes...
Tire pressure 2,2 front 2,1 back
Start with Full Battery 100%

The main ride stats:
Saddle time 5h14min
Ride distance 63,5km
Ride altitude gain 1745m
Battery consumption 90%
Cal Consumption 2945

In the photo you can see the local hills described in the last segments and across town is the local mountain(UCI DH World Cup location) with a height of 1042m where I did most of the riding.

I also divided the ride into segments with checkpoints where I gathered the status.
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Checkpoint 1 at 9,6 km 99% Battery

Segment info
9,6 km 63m alt. gain Flat asphalt Assistance only at slight uphill and cross wind
Used 1% on mode 1
Meeting Point
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Checkpoint 2 at 29km 51% Battery

Segment info
19,4km 972m alt. gain Mostly Uphill mixed terrain in the woods
Used 48% on mode 3,2,4,1,A,Push Assist(time in mode in this order)
Top of the Mountain
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Checkpoint 3 at 39,5km 49% Battery

Segment info
10,5km 60m alt. gain Downhill & few Uphills on Mtb Trails and fire roads
Used 2% on mode 2
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Checkpoint 4 at 41,6km 39% Battery

Segment info
2,1km 168m alt. gain Full Sprint Fire road
Used 10% on mode A,3
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Checkpoint 5 at 47,2km 33% Battery

Segment info
5,6km 163m alt. gain Downhill & few Uphills on Mtb Trails and fire roads
Used 6% on mode 2,3
Lunch time
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Checkpoint 6 at 53,6km 29% Battery

Segment info
44m alt. gain Across Town Windy Used 4% on Mode 1
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Checkpoint 7 at 55,1km 19% Battery

Segment info
1,5km 87m alt. gain Full Sprint trail path Used 10% on mode 3,2
First cramps
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Checkpoint 8(Home) at 63,5 km 10% Battery

Segment info
8,6km 188m alt. gain Local hills and recreation areas(up and down)
Used 9% on mode 3,2,A,Push Assist

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