Reign E+ 2022
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The Flying Dutchman
E*POWAH Master
Well shit.... I was looking forward to moving away from Giant for my next Ebike and now I'm not so sure - this bike looks amazing
Crawford919
Active member
Looks like the old batteries will fit with a new cover installed. Would be great if so.
Ordinary Human Male
New Member
Saw that too. Wondering if the platform would be well-suited to a coil.
It looks like the leverage rate is more progressive than many similar bikes, but that it's still not optimised for a coil without a progressive spring.
I remember reading that 400, 500 and 625 were interchangeable for 2019, 2020 and 2021.
The Flying Dutchman
E*POWAH Master
correct - I coiled my Trace E+ with a DVO Jade X which I was told was custom-tuned to work with Maestro's linearity.
Works really well! even without a progressive spring - soft and supple when in 'Open' setting, yet supportive and poppy in "mid". Bottom-out is harsh but 100% avoidable if you ride with care and have the correct spring rate
Ordinary Human Male
New Member
Interesting to hear. There's also a question of whether the Maestro platform has similar leverage curves when implemented in different bikes. Depending on the platform, moving the shock mounting points a few millimetres can have a substantial effect on how progressive the leverage curve is.
Nasty Nick
Well-known member
Iirc dual link designs are inherently linear. There may be a limit to the progressivity you can achieve within the constraints of the current mastro design.
The Flying Dutchman
E*POWAH Master
I've ridden a few Giant bikes EMTB & regular and the Maestro ride characteristics seem pretty consistent for the most part; nice and light in the initial stroke with excellent traction - perfect technical riding or comfort at low speed. Not the ideal choice for big hits or super aggressive riding. Super underrated in my opinion - I bet if Yeti or another boutique brand came up with Maestro it would be an "earth-shattering advancement in kinematics"
It is 1cm taller, so it is not retro compatible
I think this is the location of the flip chip ?
Nasty Nick
Well-known member
I've only looked at pics on a smartphone. I didn't even realize model 2 has tons of metallic flake sparkle. ?
Not sure what the difference would be or if there is a difference but a friends etrance came with a coil and it bottoms out and is quite linear. I think he has bumped up 100lbs on the spring and he's not a dorp to falt type rider. He could use a progressive coil but doesnt want to spend the $. Maybe theyve tweaked things now. The new one looks like a great bike
Nasty Nick
Well-known member
Idk. All the maestro graphs I've seen have a linear final leverage ratio. So with a coil you'd probably need to over spring to compensate, and we all know that makes initial travel harsh. Of course every model can have very different kinematics, but this article on the 2020 reign indicates they are intentionally designing more linear frames.
"The Maestro linkage on the new Reign has been further refined, reducing the leverage ratio to 16% progression (0-100% travel). This achieves a more constant rebound rate and thus offers more traction."
enduro-mtb.com
At only 16% a coil could work but I would think compression would be fairly restrictive.
"The Maestro linkage on the new Reign has been further refined, reducing the leverage ratio to 16% progression (0-100% travel). This achieves a more constant rebound rate and thus offers more traction."
First ride review: Giant Reign 29 – the revival of an absolute classic
The Giant Reign is a classic in the enduro segment. It was a mainstay of Enduro racing's formative years. We've put it to the test
enduro-mtb.com
At only 16% a coil could work but I would think compression would be fairly restrictive.
gbarfoot
Active member
I have a DVO coil with a progressive spring on a trance and it's awesome....but I needed the heaviest prorate spring they offer and I'm only 180lbs so if you are really heavy I would go air
The Flying Dutchman
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what spring rate is that? I'm 260lb and run a 700lb linear spring
gbarfoot
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575-700
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I wrote to him on FB and he didn't tell me if he will do a special review, but he told me to ask him everything I wanted, he's really kind, I'll give you questions and answers:
Also I tell you that I JUST TRY IT
Never tried yamaha I can only compare it with specialized Brose, I found it a little noisier but let's be clear the noise is not of various gears or clattering, only that squeak of electric motors, that clutch they make when they are under stress, so I would say promoted , the handlebar control similar to Levo is very comfortable, access to the walk is a bit cumbersome but it is only a matter of remembering the right key combination, then immediately begins to pull and rather strong. The bike can also be switched off even while racing with the handlebar control and is extremely pedalable even when switched off on a flat surface. Reached 25km / h the assistance detaches as in the brose, you hardly notice it. Already in Eco for how I use it it was set with too much assistance, I tried all the levels a bit, a lot of drive !!
I wasn't able to try the automatic, it needed more time and an adequate path, but Steve's feedback gives me hope on that too, if we then put that Yamaha is already credited with being thrifty in consumption I would say that I don't see the time to get mine.
The riding position is comfortable, maybe a little forward loaded on the handlebars but it was a quick test, only adjusted saddle height.
I'm 174 and seeing how much off-seat I had, I really think that the 170 size L telescopic can be put on the M I tried, it's great news.
A Giant Super bike is coming this time ?
PS guys sorry my english, Google helps me ?
mastakilla
Member
Is it just me or is this the steepest seattube angle ever, thing looks just shy of 90 degrees, looks crazy. But I love the bike and really want one although at this rate I dunno if its gonna happen, Giant USA still doesnt even have it on the website. Prolly end up on something else before they get their act together.
Saw an article on this bike, says the motor design wont allow any shorter chainstay than what they have got. I would think that would be one of the top design priorities of these motor manufacturers, allowing frame flexibility.
Saw an article on this bike, says the motor design wont allow any shorter chainstay than what they have got. I would think that would be one of the top design priorities of these motor manufacturers, allowing frame flexibility.
It's like ground hog day...
Maybe when any forum threads get to the second page, they should automatically delete everything and start again seen as no one reads them ? ?
Polaris
Active member
Very true, but it does mean we can legitimately whinge again as more time has passed and we still know Jack about this bloody bike!?!I’ve reserved a cube 160AT, a Mondraker level RR and a Haibike Nduro 7 and will most likely take the first that turns up. But it’s the giant that I really want, even though it does look like a unicycle with bars!
mastakilla
Member
haha, one of those guys. i guess your mum never told you what to say when you have nothing nice to say, neghead
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