New Shimano 12 Speed XT and SLX group sets

[R120]

Haven't seen anything on these on here yet, but they where announced last week, and available in stores over the next few weeks. Interesting to see both are EBIKE rated, with SLX having a steel cassette except for the biggest cog. Wonder if we will see them being used on next years bikes? Upgrading probably a bit expensive as pretty sure you need a new rear hub as they work of a new standard.

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[Indigo]

Yes, many video reviews published on it in last week:
shimano slx xt 2019 - YouTube

 

[R120]

Yup seen most of those when they came out, was more wondering how many EMTB's we will see with the group sets in 2020

 

[knut7]

We will see these on 2020 bikes that are coming later this year. The e160-9000 will have the XT and I believe the e160-8000 will have the SLX. I think there'll be a lot of bikes updated/released for 2020, partly because of the new Bosch motor, and quite a few of them should come with the new 12s Shimanos.

 

[paquo]

Upgrading probably a bit expensive as pretty sure you need a new rear hub as they work of a new standard.

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It needs microspline freehub , dt swiss and a few others make these for not too much money. I was reading that the new shimano chain when used in conjunction with the rest of the new groupset shifts really well even under load. The expensive part comes in with the crank because this new chain will only work with shimano chainrings , at least it says this much on the raceface site regarding racface 12 speed rings. Apparently you can still use a standard 12 speed chain though.

 

[Fivetones]

It is rather a pity that Shimano have come up with a new standard (microspline) that needs a license. I see Hope and Stan’s making comments on this.

 

[Kingfisher]

I’m actually considering downgrading. With the increase of gears come ever thinner chains. I blew through a chain twice already this season. There’s now a race to ‘one more gear more, one more tooth more’ between Sram and Shimano, and I fear durability will suffer?