E10 with M560 (Slow build)

[Alex144]

Hi, where did you order the M560 from?
Any indication if is OK on 52v?
Thanks

In my case i asked dengfu about through their email.

Can't confirm but i don't see why not, You could ask wherever you get it from if no one has a definite answer

 

[Alex144]

Put on the brakes during the weekend, after having some struggles with the pressure switches i wouldn't recommend them over the levers with built in switches, The one hiding in the frame was a bit of a struggle to screw in because of the tight space.


should have cut the cable at the connector and just soldered on the new wire there, this became messy.

Will have to fill the brakes at some point, also ordered a pnw dropper lever and i'm still waiting on the motor

Most of the bike will be pretty much done soon aside from the electronics and the extra stuff.

 

[Alex144]

Dropper lever arived today, turns out PNW gen 3 lever with ISPEC-EV doesn't fit the magura shiftmix 4, Ended up ordering a regular clamp

Also ordered a dropper today and some other stuff like a jagwire bleed kit for the brakes.

Hopefully next week i'll be able to make some progress again when things start coming in, After that it's mostly waiting for the motor and planning out a battery build.

Newest lists, the PNW grips are out of stock pretty much everywhere in the XL black out version, still got some old bontrager grips on the bike.

The last update on the motor from mia

 

[Alex144]

Just recieved the motor, It's still gona be a while before the bike is done, Battery needs to be planned out and the BMS i have doesn't really seem to fit. The motor came with a 104BCD Spider and a 36t chainring.

 

[Tilt]

super

 

[Alex144]

Went throuhg the other stuff today and put the display on the bike, The speed sensor doesn't really seem to fit the E10 frame.

 

[Tilt]

hello alex m560 500w?130 nm or 140 nm

 

[Alex144]

hello alex m560 500w?130 nm or 140 nm

It's this one, the 130nm

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Bafang description

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[Tilt]

OK good test of your bike and this engine

 

[kiwitourer]

Hi. Interested to know how your M560 performs. I just received a new E10 with the M560 500w motor. First test was extremely disappointing. The motor noise is incredibly loud. I would say twice as noisy as my M600. It also makes very strange 'grinding' noise at the point of motor engagement and disengagement when your cadence and torque input is low but enough to trigger the motor. I have gone back to the supplier and let them know that I can't accept this and will need to return it. It is that bad.
I have spare M600 which I can swap in. I may have just got a bad one so it will be interesting to hear what you think of yours. I would caution buyers to wait for more reviews.

 

[Alex144]

Hi. Interested to know how your M560 performs. I just received a new E10 with the M560 500w motor. First test was extremely disappointing. The motor noise is incredibly loud. I would say twice as noisy as my M600. It also makes very strange 'grinding' noise at the point of motor engagement and disengagement when your cadence and torque input is low but enough to trigger the motor. I have gone back to the supplier and let them know that I can't accept this and will need to return it. It is that bad.
I have spare M600 which I can swap in. I may have just got a bad one so it will be interesting to hear what you think of yours. I would caution buyers to wait for more reviews.

Haven't powered up the motor yet until I've read this message, Gave it a try can't really do a proper test because no speed sensor connected and it only spins for a bit before error,

It does seem a bit noisy but not to the point of it being a deal breaker for me. Makes me audible in traffic too.

Here's a video if this helps you



I should really update this thread at some point, did get some new parts and tools in. still waiting on some others
Started working on figuring out a battery build some days ago, Have some ideas on how to wire it all together. The BMS i have may be too big, i hope some changes can be made to make it fit. If not i'll have to find something else.

 

[emtbwip]

Thanks for posting the video. Very keen to see it in action.

 

[Alex144]

Haven't really been able to find much info on the original battery pack configuration, Been puzzling around a little and came up with this. (images below)

Connecting the groups together with 3 bent nickel strips, Been doing some bending tests, as long as the nickel is pre-bent around something it seems to be okay, There's enough of a gap to do that between the groups.

Looking into insulation materials, Found 2 options so far (links below) I'm not sure how difficult it is to cut /modify each of these to fit between the groups, Preferably would like it to be somewhat resistant against cuts/punctures too just in case.

Epoxy Glass 114 * 72mm - Insulation paper - Accupackaccessoires - Battery accessories | NKON

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Will still need to figure out a solution to a BMS, I hope the somehow be able to fit the one if have, if not I'll need to look for something that does fit, Also want to figure out where all the wires run before starting anything. Negative on the first group could be a bit tricky because I'd have to get it from the side where the groups connect. Might be able to just bend some nickel in the empty spot for that. (preferably with some round insert to avoid anything touching the cells around it.

As for parts, I've finally gotten PNW grips that have been out of stock for ages. Got some lights. The rear light will replace the hope seat clamp (probably gonna use it for a different bike)

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Having some issues finding the right wires for the motor, All i can find are these, i have a shift sensor installed that has a round connector. May end up needing to modify either or hopefully find one with the round julet connector.

 

[Karamba!]

Haven't really been able to find much info on the original battery pack configuration, Been puzzling around a little and came up with this. (images below)

Connecting the groups together with 3 bent nickel strips, Been doing some bending tests, as long as the nickel is pre-bent around something it seems to be okay, There's enough of a gap to do that between the groups.

Looking into insulation materials, Found 2 options so far (links below) I'm not sure how difficult it is to cut /modify each of these to fit between the groups, Preferably would like it to be somewhat resistant against cuts/punctures too just in case.

Epoxy Glass 114 * 72mm - Insulation paper - Accupackaccessoires - Battery accessories | NKON

.

eu.nkon.nl

1.18￡ 12% OFF|1m Pc For Mylar Film Pet Circuit Board Protection Heat Resistance Flame Retardant Black Insulating Rubber Gasket Smooth Battery - Battery Accessories & Charger Accessories - AliExpress

Smarter Shopping, Better Living! Aliexpress.com

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Will still need to figure out a solution to a BMS, I hope the somehow be able to fit the one if have, if not I'll need to look for something that does fit, Also want to figure out where all the wires run before starting anything. Negative on the first group could be a bit tricky because I'd have to get it from the side where the groups connect. Might be able to just bend some nickel in the empty spot for that. (preferably with some round insert to avoid anything touching the cells around it.

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As for parts, I've finally gotten PNW grips that have been out of stock for ages. Got some lights. The rear light will replace the hope seat clamp (probably gonna use it for a different bike)

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Lupine Lighting Systems - Tail Lights • C14

The world's first rear light for e-bikes integrated into the seat clamp: Now with brakelight

www.lupine.de

Having some issues finding the right wires for the motor, All i can find are these, i have a shift sensor installed that has a round connector. May end up needing to modify either or hopefully find one with the round julet connector.

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I stumbled accross the same issue with the shift sensor, despite I ordered together with the motor from the same supplier. The cable is too short as well, if you place the sensor at the shifter. In case you decide to modify it, I found a supplier on aliexpress with all this type of trapesoid shaped terminals, from 2 to 6 pins, male and female, but I cannot find the ads now. Give it a search
BTW: I haven't done the mod myself, just thinking of going through the whole hassle deters me (I already built my bike). But if you do it, please share how it went

 

[Alex144]

I stumbled accross the same issue with the shift sensor, despite I ordered together with the motor from the same supplier. The cable is too short as well, if you place the sensor at the shifter. In case you decide to modify it, I found a supplier on aliexpress with all this type of trapesoid shaped terminals, from 2 to 6 pins, male and female, but I cannot find the ads now. Give it a search
BTW: I haven't done the mod myself, just thinking of going through the whole hassle deters me (I already built my bike). But if you do it, please share how it went

Shouldn't be an issue to find a seller!

I may just order a new sensor, cable length wise is probably be fine, the sensor is in the space behind the battery where the shock attaches

 

[Karamba!]

Shouldn't be an issue to find a seller!

I may just order a new sensor, cable length wise is probably be fine, the sensor is in the space behind the battery where the shock attaches

Mine is probably around 20 cm long at most. If you place the sensor at the shifter, or even if you put it at the rear deraileur (for this position there's no internal routing either), I don´t see how on earth it could reach the controller. I guess that you think it can be connected to the extension cable that connects the HMI to the controller. But that cable does not include a connector for a gear/brake sensor, just the one for the HMI and the lights. It would need to have 2 connectors at the motor end. Even if it did, I don´t think the cable would be long enough to get there. Maybe I am missing something, perhaps you have a different extension cable than mine.

 

[Alex144]

uting either), I don´t see how on earth it could reach the controller. I guess that you think it can be connected to the extension cable that connects the HMI to the controller. But that cable does not include a connector for a

Mine is probably around 20 cm long at most. If you place the sensor at the shifter, or even if you put it at the rear deraileur (for this position there's no internal routing either), I don´t see how on earth it could reach the controller. I guess that you think it can be connected to the extension cable that connects the HMI to the controller. But that cable does not include a connector for a gear/brake sensor, just the one for the HMI and the lights. It would need to have 2 connectors at the motor end. Even if it did, I don´t think the cable would be long enough to get there. Maybe I am missing something, perhaps you have a different extension cable than mine.

I have it in the space here. I have no idea about lengths, yet i don't have the cable for it.

May just make an adapter cable instead anyway,

I think this is for an M600 but the wiring is preobably the same, Put translated text on it to make it more clear if this is any help

Haven't seen any CAN pinouts yet sadly