Dji avinox

[volts]

I have a Crestline with the Dji Avinox motor. And I have a class 3 (28mph) option that I can select in the display menu. The bike does reset back to its default class 1 (20mph) when you power off the bike. So we have to manually set it to class 3 everytime you power on the bike.

yeah please take some screenshots of firmware and so on. I'd like to normally ride 16mph but be table to set it to 28 sometimes. I want to ride a legal bike whenever I am on streets, but be able to ride 28 on my own property.

 

[techm8n]

yeah please take some screenshots of firmware and so on. I'd like to normally ride 16mph but be table to set it to 28 sometimes. I want to ride a legal bike whenever I am on streets, but be able to ride 28 on my own property.

If you bought a bike with a Dji motor in the US and you don't see the Class 3 option and you already have the latest firmware update, then the issue is that your Dji display screen is not for the US, it's for another country.

My buddy who has a DJI Crestline here in the US doesn't have the class 3 option. He contacted Avinox support and they informed him that his display is not for the US region, hence the missing class 3 option. This applies to the DJI Amflow bikes sold here in the US.

 

[silverstone]

Found this on facebook.
This is how it would look...

 

[nowayfra]

Does anybody know how the amflow measures distances? Since the sensor ring with different holes doesn't work anymore for derestricting i assume the bike must use GPS data to determine its speed? Any thoughts on this?
Is there an option inside the bike app to deactivate GPS tracking?

 

[Chips]

I`d say your assumption is wrong - when changing the size of the rear tyre (either way) you have to tell the bike so it can track distance accurately. I`ve also seen people comment about the possibility of an increased top speed when setting 27.5 and select 29er as bike will be expecting more revolutions from the smaller wheel. No way (imo) could they get speed based GPS system past the sensors as GPS is somewhat unreliable.

Does anybody know how the amflow measures distances? Since the sensor ring with different holes doesn't work anymore for derestricting i assume the bike must use GPS data to determine its speed? Any thoughts on this?
Is there an option inside the bike app to deactivate GPS tracking?

 

[nowayfra]

So if i ride 29" wheels and set the tires to 27.5" it should give me a ~1.065x speed increase. If i additionally put somehow a 38T chainring on and leave the setting at 34T this gives an overall speed factor of 1.19x with an end speed of 29.75 km/h?
Wouldn't the bike recognize there's something fishy if the sensor ring doesn't read the expected values (calculated by chainring / cassette gear / sensor ring) if i do not match the chainring in the software settings? Perhaps a modified sensor ring is needed here still?
Still considering if i pull the trigger on the amflow because no way i will sit on a 25km/h restricted e-bike on a surprise update somewhere in the future.

 

[Chips]

Just don`t update till you know it`s safe, the updates are not forced. . There are people still running the truly derestricted software versions out there.

Love you went in to the maths on this . In my head, it doesn`t make sense that the chain ring would impact speed as i`m suggesting it`s measured at the back wheel. It would impact the way the motor delivers power as it`ll be expecting to turn a small cog.

 

[John_likes_bikes]

I think there are big enough liabilites that ANY brand would want to get ahead of or fix holes that allow for desrestricting. They might do it at a different pace, but they'll do it.

 

[Chips]

I think there are big enough liabilites that ANY brand would want to get ahead of or fix holes that allow for desrestricting. They might do it at a different pace, but they'll do it.

I disagree, and I'll explain why.

DJI are also in the drone world (yes I know Avinox is technically a different company now) and that happens to also be a hobby of mine. Drones are regulated by very serious organisations in all of our country's (the aviation bodies) and have far more concerns (security) than a bike that goes too fast. With that said DJI and all other manufactures of drones can be unlocked by the individual if they so choose.

From a legal standpoint - they deliver it in a legal state, if the user takes action to make it illegal then that's on the user. Now governments reacting to Surron's and what not and going overboard, yeah I can see that and i`ll fight tooth an nail for them to understand the difference between an ebike and a emotorbike! Draw parallels with cars being able to break the speed limit and guns don`t kill people (people do) if you like

 

[Onetime]

I think there are big enough liabilites that ANY brand would want to get ahead of or fix holes that allow for desrestricting. They might do it at a different pace, but they'll do it.

They won’t need to in the US as long as they have the class 3 option, there will be no reason to derestrict at that point. I hope all the manufacturers do that here.

 

[John_likes_bikes]

They won’t need to in the US as long as they have the class 3 option, there will be no reason to derestrict at that point. I hope all the manufacturers do that here.

DJI's newest update allows class 3 speed but that function turns off when the bike does.. They didn't have to do that, it could easily stay on permanently. That to me shows some willingness to adhere to regulations, though minor-ish. I just don't see it becoming the Wild West out there from any of the manufacturers.

 

[John_likes_bikes]

I disagree, and I'll explain why.

DJI are also in the drone world (yes I know Avinox is technically a different company now) and that happens to also be a hobby of mine. Drones are regulated by very serious organisations in all of our country's (the aviation bodies) and have far more concerns (security) than a bike that goes too fast. With that said DJI and all other manufactures of drones can be unlocked by the individual if they so choose.

From a legal standpoint - they deliver it in a legal state, if the user takes action to make it illegal then that's on the user. Now governments reacting to Surron's and what not and going overboard, yeah I can see that and i`ll fight tooth an nail for them to understand the difference between an ebike and a emotorbike! Draw parallels with cars being able to break the speed limit and guns don`t kill people (people do) if you like

DJI's decision to deregulate their drones doesn't look like a good idea now, if that's the real reason the US is moving to ban them. But, I won't argue the drone world, I only know what I read in the news.

 

[nowayfra]

Did some repairing today since my first location setup was USA in hope to get the menu where i can choose between different speeds. Unfortunately the menu didn't appear but at least my bike was enabled to 32kmh. I wouldn't bother with this because its fast enough for my taste. Now using the app comes with peculiarities: if you start the app and the app is denied of mobile data and also denied of WLAN connection it will connect to the bike using bluetooth but you only can read the bikes stats - you can't change anyting. The app wants to be online to modify riding modes etc.

I noticed the smartphone app version was 1.3.22 at the first setup while some days later it was 1.3.23 without me explicitely updating the app. My fear now is that DJI could close the loophole some day without further notice by another forced update and thus brick my 13k investment. So i decided to modify the turbo mode to max settings and enable max speed - in case some cops on bike might challenge me some day - and then never connect to the bike again. My NordVPN trial of 3 days was already over - i unsubscribed before - and I didn't want to pay the now full 99$ for a mere second pairing so i used PrivadoVPN, they offered a monthly based subscription for 11$. But using PrivadoVPN I was NOT able to get the derestriction working, although they offered servers in USA, New Zealand and Honkong - none of them worked. So I did bite the bullet and paid the full yearly subscription for NordVPN and paired the bike using the single server located in New Zealand -it did NOT work although i made sure the RideApp was using only mobile data. Next I tried the server I already used some days before - USA/Kansas City - worked with the usual 32kmh limit. Then I tried Hongkong - worked with full speed.

Just leaving this here for considerations for those new with the bike in hope you won't pay unneccessarily like me.

 

[b4rt]

mullvad.net vpn is 5 bugs per month
worked great for me

 

[Petrex]

Hi All,

Happy Boxing Day

 

[Hoverp]

General
About device
SN
Region Code
tap drop down box and select another number.
You will find a variety of speeds to suite your private property riding.

so does this method allow you to skip the VPN registration method?

 

[Astro66]

so does this method allow you to skip the VPN registration method?

No. Avinox have locked this method out now. The only way to set or change the region is through the Avinox Ride App in your phone.

 

[Victor Calvino]

Resolvi o problema.

Olá, como é possível fazer o downgrade do firewall para versões anteriores na bicicleta Avinox?

 

[Victor Calvino]

Então, esse método permite pular a etapa de registro na VPN?

Em qual versão de firmware é possível fazer isso? Também é possível fazer isso na versão 13?

 

[Just gan]

Olá, como é possível fazer o downgrade do firewall para versões anteriores na bicicleta Avinox?

Fit yi sayin min ????

 

[Victor Calvino]

Sobre

Em nome de toda a Nova Zelândia: de nada.

Qual é a versão do seu firmware?

 

[nmbnmb]

I've just got a new phone and had to derestrict the bike again when pairing it to the new phone. Thinking a cheap burner phone specifically for the bike would be a good idea.

 

[Highland Wheels]

Why, that seems proper pointless.

 

[nmbnmb]

Why, that seems proper pointless.

So if the VPN method is ever turned off you can keep the bike connected to the burner phone and still upgrade your normal phone.

 

[Highland Wheels]

If the VPN method gets disabled then chances are it'll geo locate itself to the correct country anyway.

 

[nmbnmb]

Turn off all networking on burner phone except Bluetooth and it'll never update.

 

[Highland Wheels]

Jesus

What about if the bikes start locating themselves?

 

[HandsomeDanNZ]

Jesus

What about if the bikes start locating themselves?

I’m looking forward to them becoming self-aware and taking over the trail networks.

 

[Ndanger]

I’m looking forward to them becoming self-aware and taking over the trail networks.

I'm OK with it, provided they pad my Strava stats.

 

[Mlok]

- App Version 1.3.26
- Devices Version 00.14.01.03
- Android
- CyberGhost VPN (all attempts)

1) Only VPN to USA -> did not work
2) Unpair, Reset all data on bike, App remove all devices -> Only VPN to USA (but differnet server than 1) -> did not work
3) Unpair, VPN to HK + Fake GPS HK (without Reset all data, without App remove all devices) -> did work

Its possible that some VPNs needs Fake GPS and some VPNs doesnt. But after successfull attempt I did not test only VPN + HK (to test if problem is with concrete VPN server or without Fake GPS).