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Does your phone always need to be connected through VPN, to stop defaulting back to actual location?
 
The geolocation option is now closed with the latest software update?

I’m may be misinterpreting this fb link (not sure why it’s Arabic… 🤷🏼‍♂️)


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The geolocation option is now closed with the latest software update?

I’m may be misinterpreting this fb link (not sure why it’s Arabic… 🤷🏼‍♂️)


See extract

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Everything works via VPN! Just a week ago I updated the software, connected to the bike via a new phone, using a VPN from New Zealand.
 
Tried today:
- Unpair bike from the app
- VPN to Aukland
- Repair the bike with the app

Unfortunately i do not feel any difference. Did i miss something? Do i have to adjust any parameters or reboot the bike during that process or something else?
 
Tried today:
- Unpair bike from the app
- VPN to Aukland
- Repair the bike with the app

Unfortunately i do not feel any difference. Did i miss something? Do i have to adjust any parameters or reboot the bike during that process or something else?
I used not only VPN but also fake GPS.
 
Do you need to use VPN and fake GPS only when binding the bike with the phone, or everytime you're using it?
 
I’m not sure it’s helpful just atm - given all the attention on the issue of power etc.
People will try and de-restrict their bikes - If only to prove that they can. They will discuss it on forums, facebook, anywhere they can. At least here in the derestricting section there are warnings and reminders :

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These will hopefully make many think twice about what they are going to do and make them aware of the implications of what they are doing.

What most people don't know is that 62% of all Amflow bikes have apparently been imported into New Zealand.

The NZ government has demanded Amflow supply the names and address of each of these owners and they will all be receiving letters demanding proof of import taxes paid in New Zealand or to pay the required 15% Duty within 30 days.
 
I’m not sure it’s helpful just atm - given all the attention on the issue of power etc.
Haha.

Stop listening to the Bosch paid promoter…..same power has been available for years from other brands it’s only now that it’s in a better, lighter, more reliable package that the German brands (Brose/Bosch) are fighting back.

Go ride a DJI bike and you’ll see that peak power is actually very little to do with the way the bike rides.
I managed a 30mile bike ride the other day, claimed a KOM in my local woods and never went over an average of 250w.
Perfectly legal.
 
Haha.

Stop listening to the Bosch paid promoter…..same power has been available for years from other brands it’s only now that it’s in a better, lighter, more reliable package that the German brands (Brose/Bosch) are fighting back.

Go ride a DJI bike and you’ll see that peak power is actually very little to do with the way the bike rides.
I managed a 30mile bike ride the other day, claimed a KOM in my local woods and never went over an average of 250w.
Perfectly legal.
Yes, totally agree. The bike rides great.

I rode mine 44kms today. I much prefer climbing in Eco (with the odd touch of Trail when needed) - happy to just bumble up the hill and enjoy the scenery.

Downhill though, it’s a completely different story…
 
Just to be clear. you need VPN and fake GPS, or does it work with VPN alone?
On iphone its a little bit complicated to get fake GPS, as far as I saw...
I use VPN on an iPhone.
I’ve never tried to fake the GPS.
All I would say is maybe remove a SIM card if you have one fitted.
 
Sorry didn't realise the link wouldn't work on here try searching eBay for Amflow speed sensor ring 25 mph limit.
You mean the rings that have half the holes ?? There's a thread already about that - but yes, should work, but the speed info will be wrong. Not sure if it adjusts and the gear info still works correctly or not.
 
Given it's sophisticated enough to detect how many cogs are in the gear you are in, if those rings became popular they could probably code them to make errors if it detects a 6 or 7 tooth cassette

Edit: on second thoughts it would be the other way, it would think a 52tooth cassette would be 80+tooth as the speed reported back would be so low.
 
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You mean the rings that have half the holes ?? There's a thread already about that - but yes, should work, but the speed info will be wrong. Not sure if it adjusts and the gear info still works correctly or not.
This one has the correct number of holes to make the system think it's running in Kmh but in reality its speed is mph not sure how it affects the gear info though.
 
I took my bike to New Zealand today for a ride, mainly out of curiosity. I have a 25 min road commute to my trails so I wondered if it might help me get more riding in by taking less time to arrive.

  1. I updated the App and the bike to the latest versions of everything
  2. I used a free trial of Surfshark to visit New Zealand
  3. Forgot and then repaired the bike on my iPhone
  4. Enjoyed riding NZ style.

Thoughts:
As expected, you go much, much faster. I hit 33mph on that road commute (in a 40 speed limit!) before I ran out of gears / legs which really helped cut down that commute to about 15 minutes.

Once you're on trail, you're naturally governed by the terrain so you're not often going faster than 15mph on the trail anyway, otherwise you can't make corners. Downhill is obviously downhill so not related to motor speed.

That said, it's nice not having the motor cut out at 15mph when you're getting the pedals in - feels more natural coming out of a corner, getting some good pedal strokes in and having the bike continue to apply power.

It does make connecting up bits of trail a bit quicker as you can cover some great bridleway distance.

However, naturally it absolutely rinses the battery - I did 20.5 miles, 1.5hrs riding, 1150ft elevation up and down and I used 60% of the battery! Doing that ride previously I'd perhaps use 30-40%. Which I guess makes sense - double the speed, double the battery.

I'm also concerned about wear on the motor and battery. It must accelerate wear and tear bashing around at 30mph vs 15mph. I felt the motor after the ride and it didn't feel any warmer than other times I've checked it. but alas.

Due to battery consumption and concerns over wear I don't think I'll keep riding in New Zealand. Ideally I'd love an extra 5mph in the UK as 15.5mph can feel a bit slow on the roads, but rules is rules I guess.
 
I took my bike to New Zealand today for a ride, mainly out of curiosity. I have a 25 min road commute to my trails so I wondered if it might help me get more riding in by taking less time to arrive.

  1. I updated the App and the bike to the latest versions of everything
  2. I used a free trial of Surfshark to visit New Zealand
  3. Forgot and then repaired the bike on my iPhone
  4. Enjoyed riding NZ style.

Thoughts:
As expected, you go much, much faster. I hit 33mph on that road commute (in a 40 speed limit!) before I ran out of gears / legs which really helped cut down that commute to about 15 minutes.

Once you're on trail, you're naturally governed by the terrain so you're not often going faster than 15mph on the trail anyway, otherwise you can't make corners. Downhill is obviously downhill so not related to motor speed.

That said, it's nice not having the motor cut out at 15mph when you're getting the pedals in - feels more natural coming out of a corner, getting some good pedal strokes in and having the bike continue to apply power.

It does make connecting up bits of trail a bit quicker as you can cover some great bridleway distance.

However, naturally it absolutely rinses the battery - I did 20.5 miles, 1.5hrs riding, 1150ft elevation up and down and I used 60% of the battery! Doing that ride previously I'd perhaps use 30-40%. Which I guess makes sense - double the speed, double the battery.

I'm also concerned about wear on the motor and battery. It must accelerate wear and tear bashing around at 30mph vs 15mph. I felt the motor after the ride and it didn't feel any warmer than other times I've checked it. but alas.

Due to battery consumption and concerns over wear I don't think I'll keep riding in New Zealand. Ideally I'd love an extra 5mph in the UK as 15.5mph can feel a bit slow on the roads, but rules is rules I guess.
So just set it to the USA…….20mph. Simples.
 
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