Can you list what other parts besides the mech and chain you had to buy to install this on your Heckler?
2022 Santa Cruz Heckler
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Silent Drone
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The only non-SRAM part I’m using is a Wolftooth chainring, the Drop-Stop B 104 BCD 34T, which is made to be compatible with the new SRAM Transmission.
104 BCD Chainrings
104 BCD chainring for SRAM and Shimano Drop-Stop wide/narrow sprocket
www.wolftoothcomponents.com
I also replaced the OEM chainring bolts with Wolftooth ones. The OEM bolts are the old Shimano style that needs a special chainring bolt tool to remove the bolts, and which are not good because they strip easily. The Wolftooth bolts use two hex keys which is a much better design.
Set of 4 Chainring Bolts+Nuts for 1X
Alloy super light 6mm chainring bolt specifically designed for mounting single chainrings like the Wolf Tooth Drop-Stop® chainrings
www.wolftoothcomponents.com
Everything else is the new SRAM: derailleur, cassette, chain and shifter pod. My LBS sold me one of their XO upgrade kits minus the cranks/BB.
If you don’t want the Wolftooth chainring, SRAM has a T-Type chainring with 104 BCD in their catalog, but my LBS didn’t know when they could get one so I decided to go with the Wolftooth because it’s available now.
Great info! Thanks!The only non-SRAM part I’m using is a Wolftooth chainring, the Drop-Stop B 104 BCD 34T, which is made to be compatible with the new SRAM Transmission.
104 BCD Chainrings
104 BCD chainring for SRAM and Shimano Drop-Stop wide/narrow sprocket
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I also replaced the OEM chainring bolts with Wolftooth ones. The OEM bolts are the old Shimano style that needs a special chainring bolt tool to remove the bolts, and which are not good because they strip easily. The Wolftooth bolts use two hex keys which is a much better design.
Set of 4 Chainring Bolts+Nuts for 1X
Alloy super light 6mm chainring bolt specifically designed for mounting single chainrings like the Wolf Tooth Drop-Stop® chainrings
Everything else is the new SRAM: derailleur, cassette, chain and shifter pod. My LBS sold me one of their XO upgrade kits minus the cranks/BB.
If you don’t want the Wolftooth chainring, SRAM has a T-Type chainring with 104 BCD in their catalog, but my LBS didn’t know when they could get one so I decided to go with the Wolftooth because it’s available now.
View attachment 110676
Just buy the e-bike kit minus the cranks, that’s all you need.
Rusty762
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I make a replacement plug, its $30 for a pair and I have had zero issues with mine been running it over a year since the original one broke off on my first ride and Santa Cruz had no replacements.
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ramoes
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I saw they changed the fork to a zeb ultimate now. I laughed because I did this earlier this year. The Zeb works WAYYY better than that fox 36 performance on a bike like this.
ccwilli3
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I totally caved and got a 2022 before end of last year. These 2 bikes are the same in name only, completely different riding experience…
ramoes
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What happened to the new heckler builds? Looks like Santa Cruz pulled them off of their site.
JStrube
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oh?
They have major compatibility issues with the new EP801 motor and the Darfon battery.
2 members on here posted their new Heckler and both got the same error on the first ride, you can easily find both threads on the first page of the Santa Cruz forum section.
Santa Cruz has no fix as of now so you're left with a useless bike for an unknown period of time, might as well stop selling them and pull them off from the site.
tabbibus
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Does the Bullit have the same issue?
I don't think so, it uses the EP801 and the 630wh Shimano battery
Can't confirm 100%, but the Bullit is using a Shimano 630Wh battery so most likely there's no compatiblity issue.
Brands trying to create their own exclusive ecospheres for marketing reasons is an increasing trend and IMO one to be avoided.
tabbibus
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I know Fezzari's new Timp Peak has an EP8 motor with a non Shimano battery. As far as I know no issues reported yet
Fezzari are using the EP8, not the EP801 which is having the issues with the Darfon batteries
JP-NZ
E*POWAH Elite World Champion
How do these incompatibility issues not arise in Santa Cruz QA?
I'm assuming there is a firmware update, probably with Shimano, that then means the two systems don't talk to each other.
I don't know software versions but I assume the Shimano motor ships with v1.3.15 that is compatible with the Defang battery. Then the shop or end user updates the system to say v1.4.1 and all of a sudden the motor won't talk to the battery.
Happens all the time with poor software development - and Shimano don't have a history of being helpful!
Greetings all,
I would like to get the new 29" Heckler and I have seen two this morning, the dark grey and avocado.
I wanted to take the available grey but seems that I have fall in love with the avocado one !
Is is "hard to clean" the mud on that "shiny" color ?
Beside that, my dealer told me that all available bikes come with EP800 and not E801.
Does it make a real difference ?
I do not see the new Heckler model (with Zeeb) on the official website, at least on the French one.
That being said, is it possible to get a new Heckler with 801, and yes which reference or production year / month should I look for ?
Finall, is it possible to add a Fast Suspesion Fenix Enduro ? Seems the tunnel is large enough !
Thanks !
I would like to get the new 29" Heckler and I have seen two this morning, the dark grey and avocado.
I wanted to take the available grey but seems that I have fall in love with the avocado one !
Is is "hard to clean" the mud on that "shiny" color ?
Beside that, my dealer told me that all available bikes come with EP800 and not E801.
Does it make a real difference ?
I do not see the new Heckler model (with Zeeb) on the official website, at least on the French one.
That being said, is it possible to get a new Heckler with 801, and yes which reference or production year / month should I look for ?
Finall, is it possible to add a Fast Suspesion Fenix Enduro ? Seems the tunnel is large enough !
Thanks !
JStrube
Active member
Ahh, someone is buying the avocado!
I bought in December, the bike before the troubles started. They have taken the ZEEB models off of the page in the US as well.
I bought in December, the bike before the troubles started. They have taken the ZEEB models off of the page in the US as well.
Yes; I should get it in about the two or next weeks.
I've choose to take a R in order to have an update budget.
Magura MT7 Pro will be placed on it and I'm thinking upfront about the front and rear shock.
Is it a good things to put a coil; like a Fast Suspension Fenix Pro, or a simple Ohlins TTX2, in order to improve the performance or will it "destroy" the cinematic ?
About the fork, any pro to move from a Lyric Select to a Fox 36 Factory or even an Ohlins 36 ?
I'm 78kg, riding more "mountain bike" than truelly enduro; with rocks; drops and some small jumps (around 50cm).
I've choose to take a R in order to have an update budget.
Magura MT7 Pro will be placed on it and I'm thinking upfront about the front and rear shock.
Is it a good things to put a coil; like a Fast Suspension Fenix Pro, or a simple Ohlins TTX2, in order to improve the performance or will it "destroy" the cinematic ?
About the fork, any pro to move from a Lyric Select to a Fox 36 Factory or even an Ohlins 36 ?
I'm 78kg, riding more "mountain bike" than truelly enduro; with rocks; drops and some small jumps (around 50cm).
JStrube
Active member
I've barely had time to ride mine. I had lots of free time the first part of the year, but it rained every weekend, trails were slop. Hopefully as summer progresses. I like my Fox 36 Factory E.
170MM Zeb up front on mine with EXT E-Storia at the back, low on the flip chip, transformed the bike.
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Wet day at Risca, fine tuning the e-storia
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FastFR
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Fox 38 170mm on the front for me and no issues
same here,all good.
erikulator
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Long time Santa Cruz bike owner, but can't believe they went with Shimano ebike equip. Poor reliability and outdated features. It doesn't just fit with SC premium branding. After researching I found that Bosch offers a better overall ebike package. So I bought a Crestline, which has a similar frame and suspension link design as SC but with Bosch equipment. It has a wireless remote, a fantastic screen, plus a much more reliable motor. Bosch is a tier 1 auto supplier so they have more experience and support than Shimano does.
If your cross shopping a top spec Heckler I suggest checking out the Crestline 50/75. It's rad!
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If your cross shopping a top spec Heckler I suggest checking out the Crestline 50/75. It's rad!
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Try telling that to people that have diesel trucks with CP4 injector pumps that break and send small metal fragments into the fuel injectors causing thousands of dollars damage!
erikulator
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Santa Cruz just recalled Hecklers with Shimano motors. Good luck with your motor made by a company that makes fishing poles
2024 Heckler Recall
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