Bafang m510

I wonder if the very learned gentlemen could advise regarding removal of inner casing on the M510 to access the small internal PCB which I mean to replace. Specifically the large final gear and bearing - are they press fit only? Will they slip off so I can access the final hidden allen screw which holds the casing in place??
 
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Hech said:
I wonder if the very learned gentlemen could advise regarding removal of inner casing on the M510 to access the small internal PCB which I mean to replace. Specifically the large final gear and bearing - are they press fit only? Will they slip off so I can access the final hidden allen screw which holds the casing in place??
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Hi, motor is simple, once you open it, illustrated information you should find disassembly video on YouTube, it more simple than text version.
Bafang M510 motor teardown video
 
Waynemarlow said:
Yes Torque sensor reads correct with weight on the peddle rising correctly as you press on the peddle. Seems a bit high at about 850 at standstill but then that could have been the case since new.
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Hi, read my post
In your case I think problem is - with idle state with no force on pedal it should be 750mv as you can see here for example
But you say 850mv - it like you press pedals from start - motor will not work.
In night rides sometimes when I want to correct lighting I can suddenly power off motor and then restart it with foots on pedals with ride force - motor not work and I restart it again without force.
 
hey . to unlock 510 from speed limit , i need correct fw file right ? where to look for to get newest unlocked fw ?
 
pxl666 said:
hey . to unlock 510 from speed limit , i need correct fw file right ? where to look for to get newest unlocked fw ?
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No need special fw. Almost all works. You need Besst, or some unlocker from aliexpress. Or display with a special firmware, or K1 Flash. You can set pedaling speed limit as high as you want. (up to 100kmh)

Bafang started recently with new "tactics":
M510 FC2.x has hardcoded throttle speed to 32kmh.
M510 FC3.0 throttle is even disabled in Bafang orig firmware. Bafang was still throttle positive. So this is a big change, started with M820. And hope will saty only with these 2 "EU" models. ;)

M560 hardcoded throttle speed to 45kmh.
 
Dado said:
No need special fw. Almost all works. You need Besst, or some unlocker from aliexpress. Or display with a special firmware, or K1 Flash. You can set pedaling speed limit as high as you want. (up to 100kmh)

Bafang started recently with new "tactics":
M510 FC2.x has hardcoded throttle speed to 32kmh.
M510 FC3.0 throttle is even disabled in Bafang orig firmware. Bafang was still throttle positive. So this is a big change, started with M820. And hope will saty only with these 2 "EU" models. ;)

M560 hardcoded throttle speed to 45kmh.
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you mean that any fw works and unlocks speed limit ?? any from this thread ?
 
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Dado said:
No need special fw. Almost all works. You need Besst, or some unlocker from aliexpress. Or display with a special firmware, or K1 Flash. You can set pedaling speed limit as high as you want. (up to 100kmh)

Bafang started recently with new "tactics":
M510 FC2.x has hardcoded throttle speed to 32kmh.
M510 FC3.0 throttle is even disabled in Bafang orig firmware. Bafang was still throttle positive. So this is a big change, started with M820. And hope will saty only with these 2 "EU" models. ;)

M560 hardcoded throttle speed to 45kmh.
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Yus, DADO king of the flash device and mighty lord of bratislava, I too must know the secrets of the M510, and all dark spells I need to know to reprogram my old bafang machine! For it has a new PC Board, and must be updated I believe, why should I buy your great device if I dont even know the magic code? Good Lord, wont you even sell it cheap to me, your great device I mean??
 
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Thread 'BESST tool PRO'

I launch this subject to avoid necessity to read all the BESST tool subject to solve an problem
link to sheet where BEEST pro can be find
www.emtbforums.com

Bafang m510

More range because of less power i guess 🙃. And if battery status is never shown correct it makes it hard to trust what your display says 😉 go home when it showing 40% left :D Just enjoy the ride.
www.emtbforums.com www.emtbforums.com

link to bafang download

BESST

Bafang description
bafang-e.com bafang-e.com

I have installed it, i can read my controler and update firmware in my M510 with it, but no more.
when i read all i have message"fail read" (i suspect it is beacause it can't communicate with the battery)
i can modified the setting in the displayed screen, but i can't send it to my motor ( send button...


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Bafang Canable Pro Few weeks ago i noticed on Github this program "bafang canable pro" written by bart594 and what can i say, once i had it running it's just a ... Real master! Link to YT video about bafang canable pro Link to YT video with some of the updates sinds the first video One thing...
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Waynemarlow said:
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Thread 'BESST tool PRO'

I launch this subject to avoid necessity to read all the BESST tool subject to solve an problem
link to sheet where BEEST pro can be find
www.emtbforums.com

Bafang m510

More range because of less power i guess 🙃. And if battery status is never shown correct it makes it hard to trust what your display says 😉 go home when it showing 40% left :D Just enjoy the ride.
www.emtbforums.com www.emtbforums.com

link to bafang download

BESST

Bafang description
bafang-e.com bafang-e.com

I have installed it, i can read my controler and update firmware in my M510 with it, but no more.
when i read all i have message"fail read" (i suspect it is beacause it can't communicate with the battery)
i can modified the setting in the displayed screen, but i can't send it to my motor ( send button...


endless-sphere.com

Bafang Canable Pro Master - discussion

Bafang Canable Pro Few weeks ago i noticed on Github this program "bafang canable pro" written by bart594 and what can i say, once i had it running it's just a ... Real master! Link to YT video about bafang canable pro Link to YT video with some of the updates sinds the first video One thing...
endless-sphere.com endless-sphere.com
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is this relatoed to my question ?
 
Hi guys, I own a M510 MM G522.250C 26 / CR X10N.510.FC 1.0 (Controller Type?). 36V, 19A,
Hardware Version E1.0 / Software Version V1.1
It has just 220km on it and the following problem:

Everything works normal as always after starting.
Then it stops the drive support after rolling down a hill, for like 3 -20 seconds (=no rotation pedals and 0W Support) or if I stop the bike to 0km/h (no rotation pedals an 0W support) and start to pull away again. Display always remains on, showing speed as usual. I can select any other sopport level 1 to 5, always no support (0 Watt) of M510 like it is switched off.
If I switch display off and on again it works like usual and dirvetrain support is ok again. What also works after stopping drivetrain support: switch to walking mode with "-" key and then hold "-" key, the M510 operates properly in walkmode. After switching back to Level 1 to 5, doesn't matter, it works fine again.

As I have a second bike with M510, I switched display + keys, battery, speed sensor. It keeps the the same issue. The cause is in the drive train.

Any ideas what the problem could be or how to analyse which part is defect instead of replacing the complete M510 unit?
 
The_softcake said:
Hi guys, I own a M510 MM G522.250C 26 / CR X10N.510.FC 1.0 (Controller Type?). 36V, 19A,
Hardware Version E1.0 / Software Version V1.1
It has just 220km on it and the following problem:

Everything works normal as always after starting.
Then it stops the drive support after rolling down a hill, for like 3 -20 seconds (=no rotation pedals and 0W Support) or if I stop the bike to 0km/h (no rotation pedals an 0W support) and start to pull away again. Display always remains on, showing speed as usual. I can select any other sopport level 1 to 5, always no support (0 Watt) of M510 like it is switched off.
If I switch display off and on again it works like usual and dirvetrain support is ok again. What also works after stopping drivetrain support: switch to walking mode with "-" key and then hold "-" key, the M510 operates properly in walkmode. After switching back to Level 1 to 5, doesn't matter, it works fine again.

As I have a second bike with M510, I switched display + keys, battery, speed sensor. It keeps the the same issue. The cause is in the drive train.

Any ideas what the problem could be or how to analyse which part is defect instead of replacing the complete M510 unit?
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Hi,
if "switch display off and on again it works like usual and dirvetrain support is ok again"
I think problem with controller board, may be you should reflash FW or replace it ... next to change is more expensive torque sensor - but if it sometimes work normal I think it is normal
 
The_softcake said:
Hi guys, I own a M510 MM G522.250C 26 / CR X10N.510.FC 1.0 (Controller Type?). 36V, 19A,
Hardware Version E1.0 / Software Version V1.1
It has just 220km on it and the following problem:

Everything works normal as always after starting.
Then it stops the drive support after rolling down a hill, for like 3 -20 seconds (=no rotation pedals and 0W Support) or if I stop the bike to 0km/h (no rotation pedals an 0W support) and start to pull away again. Display always remains on, showing speed as usual. I can select any other sopport level 1 to 5, always no support (0 Watt) of M510 like it is switched off.
If I switch display off and on again it works like usual and dirvetrain support is ok again. What also works after stopping drivetrain support: switch to walking mode with "-" key and then hold "-" key, the M510 operates properly in walkmode. After switching back to Level 1 to 5, doesn't matter, it works fine again.

As I have a second bike with M510, I switched display + keys, battery, speed sensor. It keeps the the same issue. The cause is in the drive train.

Any ideas what the problem could be or how to analyse which part is defect instead of replacing the complete M510 unit?
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Thats FC1.0 motor mate. Controllers here had this issues. :( Just to upgrade to Fc2.x or 3.0
 
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Controller will be enough. Many people replaced to fc2. And luckily is not that expensive. You will get also more power (19A) and better power settings.
 
Thank you @Dado

Does anybody know a good shop to order the controller to get it shipped to Germany? I have read some times about Chili on Alibaba here, is this the best source for it? There it is 79$.

And for calibration i need to use besst pro tool, right? What cable do i need to connect the M510 to the PC? In Chilis shop there is a cable listed as well. Is the one with the black box and the orange plug the right one to choose as attached to the post?
There are also some cheaper USB Plugs with a Button on the USB Plug and Bafang plug and socket (house form) available.

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No worries mate.

From Europe or Germany, controller can be more expensive. Yes, from Chili is great (3 weeks delivery). Or also from Aliexpres (that can be with u in 2 weeks).

Dont worry about cables, it will come with Besst. It is that one with green house shape and cabling instead of display. You would need to run rotor calibration after swapping controller (or when swapped rotor).

Or you can try K1 Flash. Now also new computer version (Flash v3 - running over Windows and Google Chrome). Check beta web app www.k1ebikes.com/flash3 - works like a charm, no installation, no passwords, fast and user friendly. And firmwares are loaded from the cloud. Idea was to run it also from Android mobile, but this is not happening yet - Chat GPT did trick me. ;)
But after summer I will look at it and will try to do it also over Android phones.

Would not go for the cheaper unlock device from Ali, it can not do much. Only to unlock speed limit.
 
The_softcake said:
Does anybody know a good shop to order the controller to get it shipped to Germany? I have read some times about Chili on Alibaba here, is this the best source for it? There it is 79$.
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I got my 2.1 controller from greenbikekit. Somehow they managed to do it without import tax. And then I got K1 Flash from Dado. No problems at all..
 
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