Avinox SRAM AXS Motor power Cable (M1/M2 Variants)

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Good to know, thanks.
Great price for the M1 version. Ready for conversion to M2/S version
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I picked up an M1 cable last week for 50 quid, Just need the AXS mech now to replace my cable Transmission, which is really good in all fairness
 
Got my hands on one. Only $35
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Bike Barn AZ said:
DJI is currently custom making these AXS extension cables and has essentially taken over production for Sram. I should have 30 of these soon. Hopefully they will arrive in time for our first batch of Teewing frames.
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Can I buy one from you? Please!
 
Yotaismygame said:
Probably not the best option but has anyone considered hard wiring it to the motor? Could always resplice the connector back on if needed. Or even finding the proper pins so you don't need to buy two harnesses.
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now thats a good call!!!!
 
Astro66 said:
Problem will be that different light cables require different connections. And different AXS power cables also use different colours and different polarity. So it's always going to come down to the user must verify the wire colours and polarity of both the SRAM AXS power cable and the Light Cable.

I have already made a post on how to verify the wire colours and polarity of the SRAM AXS power cable, and posted a picture.

When I have the M2S motor, I'll make the same post on how to verify the wire colours and polarity of the motor wires when you plug in the light cable and it's bare ends left free. Also with a photo.
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do you have the M2S yet?
 
Hoverp said:
do you have the M2S yet?
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Yes. I posted my results.

Astro66 said:
AXS Cable built and installed, and new S1000 derailleur fitted. I have tested everything including Smoothshift. Everything works perfectly. It was as I previously posted.

SRAM AXS Power Cables.
Black is the Positive +
Blue is the Negative -

https://www.theoddspoke.com.au/sram...jLIn6P7ms6rmj9dbV8hWcao7vfBe_dNHgsy5Pk6DaIDJN

I have the Ebike24 cable.
Red is the Positive +
Black is the Negative -

DJI Avinox Light Cable 500 mm | eBike24.

With my two cables the correct wiring is. AXS Cable Black with Light Cable Red. AXS Cable Blue with Light cable Black.
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I have a Bosch cable (with the Bosch end cut off), and M1 Higo, and an M2(S) Higo going spare of anyone in the UK is after one. Bought while waiting on my Druid before I knew about the change, and the M2(S) after I knew but before I got my frame (didn't know which tier I'd be getting).



I'll get pics up tonight



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HIGO 4-Pin Cable 1000 mm – Z405MM – Blue – IP67 – 5.5 mm E-Bike Connector

HIGO 4-pin cable Z405MM with 1000 mm length and IP67 protection. Waterproof e-bike connector Ø 5.5 mm with gold-plated contacts for sensors and control lines.
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HIGO Micro-A female connector 2-pole

HIGO Micro-A female connector 2-pole
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Anyone having any issues with these? I’m not getting any power to my derailleur. 2 day old dreadnaught E
 
tahoedeaner said:
Anyone having any issues with these? I’m I’m

nope factory , just stopped working
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Quick check. See if the adapter is seated properly into the derailleur. Maybe a bit of water dispersant and contact cleaner will help.

If not. You'll need a multimeter to find it. You need to check if you are getting 7.4Volts at the pins that clip onto the derailleur, to determine if it's derailleur or cable.
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Then if it's the cable. Check if it has 12Volts where it plugs into the motor.

If derailleur. Then you'll need to take it back.
 
Eckythump said:
@Greg Watts does this thread cover if this cable can be used as a power source for AXS dropper posts?
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Short answer: not directly, no - but it's worth understanding what this thread is actually about.

The cable discussed here is the Smoothshift cable - the wired connection between the Avinox motor system and an AXS derailleur that allows the motor to cut torque momentarily during shifts. It's a motor-to-drivetrain interface, not a power delivery line in the conventional sense.

AXS dropper posts are self-powered - they carry their own battery in the post body and communicate wirelessly via the AXS protocol. They don't draw power from the motor system or need a cable to the motor at all. So the cable this thread covers wouldn't apply.

What would be relevant for AXS dropper compatibility on an Avinox bike is whether the bike's frame has internal routing for a hydraulic hose (if you're running a standard post with a remote) or simply that the AXS protocol is active on the system. From what's in this thread, @sethimus's post notes Avinox currently works with AXS (not Di2), so wireless AXS droppers should be in the right ecosystem - but that's a separate question from the cable being discussed here.
 
Greg Watts said:
Short answer: not directly, no - but it's worth understanding what this thread is actually about.

The cable discussed here is the Smoothshift cable - the wired connection between the Avinox motor system and an AXS derailleur that allows the motor to cut torque momentarily during shifts. It's a motor-to-drivetrain interface, not a power delivery line in the conventional sense.

AXS dropper posts are self-powered - they carry their own battery in the post body and communicate wirelessly via the AXS protocol. They don't draw power from the motor system or need a cable to the motor at all. So the cable this thread covers wouldn't apply.

What would be relevant for AXS dropper compatibility on an Avinox bike is whether the bike's frame has internal routing for a hydraulic hose (if you're running a standard post with a remote) or simply that the AXS protocol is active on the system. From what's in this thread, @sethimus's post notes Avinox currently works with AXS (not Di2), so wireless AXS droppers should be in the right ecosystem - but that's a separate question from the cable being discussed here.
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Does this cable not replace the battery and power the AXS derailleur from the DJI battery and the motor uses the power pulse as a signal for the smooth shift?
 
Eckythump said:
Does this cable not replace the battery and power the AXS derailleur from the DJI battery and the motor uses the power pulse as a signal for the smooth shift?
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Yes it is, ignore the bot. It just supplies power to the derailleur and the motor senses the current draw from a shift to know when you’re shifting and then cuts power briefly to allow the shift to take place, or if you’re coasting powers the motor so it can shift without pedaling.
 
Which, in answer to your question @Eckythump, could lead to the motor doing strange things when you power your dropper by this cable.
  • You could only power the dropper and deactivate the smoothshift function. That should work.
  • You could splice the cable and power the dropper and the derailleur. You would again need to deactivate the smoothshift function, or live with the possible funky behaviour of the motor when operating the dropper.
The question is if the power draw from the dropper is high enough to trigger the shifting detection from the motor. As explained before, there is no sophisticated communication between motor and derailleur. It just measures the current drawn, and if that jumps over a certain threshold (because of the derailleur working) it detects that there is a shift operation going on.


While typing this I thought of a question: why does that not work with Shimano Di2? No idea how their system looks like, but if you just power the derailleur with a cable from the motor it would work exactly the same way, wouldn't it?
 
I tried powering their eBike powered version and didn't work as there was no approved motor in the system 😕.
Have to try a 12V to 8V converter rig to a battery Di2 when I can ...
Could be a long wait !
There was a rumour that Avinox may be getting some sort of approval for the e-bike wireless Di2 system, but 😶
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HiGer said:
Which, in answer to your question @Eckythump, could lead to the motor doing strange things when you power your dropper by this cable.
  • You could only power the dropper and deactivate the smoothshift function. That should work.
  • You could splice the cable and power the dropper and the derailleur. You would again need to deactivate the smoothshift function, or live with the possible funky behaviour of the motor when operating the dropper.
The question is if the power draw from the dropper is high enough to trigger the shifting detection from the motor. As explained before, there is no sophisticated communication between motor and derailleur. It just measures the current drawn, and if that jumps over a certain threshold (because of the derailleur working) it detects that there is a shift operation going on.


While typing this I thought of a question: why does that not work with Shimano Di2? No idea how their system looks like, but if you just power the derailleur with a cable from the motor it would work exactly the same way, wouldn't it?
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This is why the M2 motors have a second lead coming out that was specifically meant for things like droppers. I believe SRAM and Fox will both be coming out with models with support for the hard wired option.
 
xtraman122 said:
Yes it is, ignore the bot. It just supplies power to the derailleur and the motor senses the current draw from a shift to know when you’re shifting and then cuts power briefly to allow the shift to take place, or if you’re coasting powers the motor so it can shift without pedaling.
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xtraman122 said:
Yes it is, ignore the bot. It just supplies power to the derailleur and the motor senses the current draw from a shift to know when you’re shifting and then cuts power briefly to allow the shift to take place, or if you’re coasting powers the motor so it can shift without pedaling.
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As long as it doesn’t trigger the motor to run when the bike is stationary it shouldn’t really matter should it? It will just turn the motor without a shift taking place.

I need to have a look at the voltage the AXS batteries supply. If it’s 12v, could hack into the Avinox light supply to stay independent of the smooth shift function.
 
xtraman122 said:
This is why the M2 motors have a second lead coming out that was specifically meant for things like droppers. I believe SRAM and Fox will both be coming out with models with support for the hard wired option.
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Cool. Will look into that.
On this basis though, the cable discussed in this thread can be used to power an AXS dropper if a suitable tap can be found on the motor. Originally I was thinking a Y adapter/splice but hadn’t thought about it interfering with the smart shift.
 
Petrex said:
I tried powering their eBike powered version and didn't work as there was no approved motor in the system 😕.
Have to try a 12V to 8V converter rig to a battery Di2 when I can ...
Could be a long wait !
There was a rumour that Avinox may be getting some sort of approval for the e-bike wireless Di2 system, but 😶
🍿
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I think there is more to it with Shimano as their system includes auto shift as well as smart shift and smooth changing. It’s tied into the motor, derailleur and firmware.
My e8000 bike drops the power for gear shifts but cannot do the other modes. The later wired derailleur can do the auto shifting etc.
 
HiGer said:
Which, in answer to your question @Eckythump, could lead to the motor doing strange things when you power your dropper by this cable.
  • You could only power the dropper and deactivate the smoothshift function. That should work.
  • You could splice the cable and power the dropper and the derailleur. You would again need to deactivate the smoothshift function, or live with the possible funky behaviour of the motor when operating the dropper.
The question is if the power draw from the dropper is high enough to trigger the shifting detection from the motor. As explained before, there is no sophisticated communication between motor and derailleur. It just measures the current drawn, and if that jumps over a certain threshold (because of the derailleur working) it detects that there is a shift operation going on.


While typing this I thought of a question: why does that not work with Shimano Di2? No idea how their system looks like, but if you just power the derailleur with a cable from the motor it would work exactly the same way, wouldn't it?
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imho the dropper is to be connected at the top on the 2nd CAN port of the display
 
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