Why not? How long does it take? Are there lots of fragile connectors or something?I have removed the motor and battery from my Amflow, which is almost identical. Whilst it's not a difficult job. It's not something you want to try at the trailhead.
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Why not? How long does it take? Are there lots of fragile connectors or something?I have removed the motor and battery from my Amflow, which is almost identical. Whilst it's not a difficult job. It's not something you want to try at the trailhead.
I know the Flux bikes are just starting to get into riders hands. I am curious, have any of you who have them tried removing the battery yet? If so, I am curious how difficult it was, as the Pinkbike article suggested that, while not a "removable" battery in the same sense that the Amflow PR is, it is still easy enough that a battery swap in the parking lot at the trailhead wasn't out of the question.
I am also curious about the shape of the battery compartment, and if it seems like it could accommodate something other than the 800wh, such as either the 700wh (which is basically the same length as the 800, but rounder in shape), or the 600wh (which is the same width and height as the 800wh, but about 125mm shorter in length).
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I bring this, with 14 kWh of LifePo4 batteries on board (and enough food to feed everyone at the bike park). But I still don't want to spend half my time waiting for the bike to charge. An 800 Wh battery lasts me about 90 minutes of self-shuttling, and it takes over 2 hours to charge up again. It's sad that virtually none of the new Avinox bikes have swappable batteries.
I really wish Amflow had come out with a proper enduro bike - they'd fly off the shelves. The PR is a good start but I want a Cat 5 with >170mm travel, and preferably approved for a dual crown. The Crestline is the only Avinox bike with a removable battery that meets those criteria, but the seat tube is too long (or reach too short, depending on what size I'm looking at).Amazing.
That $4999 Amflow is pretty appealing. My buddy has a trek with a removable battery and it has flown out on multiple occasions. Hopefully they’ve improved the designs since that model.
What is required to swap the battery on the Crestline? I see it has that distinct "belly" in the tube, so I am guessing that it can be accessed right under a cover, without touching the motor mounts. Asking because the battery is still the same "internal" type used on this Teewing, and I am wondering, since swapping the internal battery in a parking lot is viable on the Crestline, how much more time is required on the Teewing? Based on the shape of the frame, I am guessing that, above whatever else is required on the Crestline, the Teewing would require the front motor mount bolt to be removed, and the rear one to be loosened, so that the motor can be pivoted out of the way, since it has less of a belly.I really wish Amflow had come out with a proper enduro bike - they'd fly off the shelves. The PR is a good start but I want a Cat 5 with >170mm travel, and preferably approved for a dual crown. The Crestline is the only Avinox bike with a removable battery that meets those criteria, but the seat tube is too long (or reach too short, depending on what size I'm looking at).
Once practiced a few times it would be less than 30mins to get the battery out, and get a new one in.Why not? How long does it take? Are there lots of fragile connectors or something?
Thanks for the additional info! Pulling the spider and crank is definitely getting pretty involved, so you are making a pretty persuasive argument for the fast charger. If lapping a trail center over and over, I could definitely see doing several short breaks to keep adding to the charge as you describe.Once practiced a few times it would be less than 30mins to get the battery out, and get a new one in.
There are small screws inside the downtube you have to remove, as well as the display. So the chances of dropping and losing them inside the frame, or on the ground is high.
You need to remove the spider and chainwheel to access the motor bolts. This requires a special tool and a heavy wrench.
You have to take the drive side crank off. It just a massive PITA, with high risk of loosing a critical screw.
I carry a 800Wh Ecoflow in my Electric Vehicle, that can charge off my EV's 12V system. This gives me endless charges. And with Avinox's fast charging system. 1% SOC added per minute. I just take a 30min break and add 30%. Or have an extended lunch and add 50%.
So much easier than swapping batteries.
The few times I have been on a big adventure ride. I just conserve battery. I've completed 100km and 1600metres of climbing by inking out the most from my 800Wh battery. On the flats I even turned the motor completely off. But I rarely do rides where I cannot stop for lunch and recharge.
Unrelated Flux frame question for you...What size did you get, and did you happen to measure the seatpost insertion depth? I'm trying to figure out if I can get a long enough dropper in that frame.Once practiced a few times it would be less than 30mins to get the battery out, and get a new one in.
There are small screws inside the downtube you have to remove, as well as the display. So the chances of dropping and losing them inside the frame, or on the ground is high.
You need to remove the spider and chainwheel to access the motor bolts. This requires a special tool and a heavy wrench.
You have to take the drive side crank off. It just a massive PITA, with high risk of loosing a critical screw.
I carry a 800Wh Ecoflow in my Electric Vehicle, that can charge off my EV's 12V system. This gives me endless charges. And with Avinox's fast charging system. 1% SOC added per minute. I just take a 30min break and add 30%. Or have an extended lunch and add 50%.
So much easier than swapping batteries.
The few times I have been on a big adventure ride. I just conserve battery. I've completed 100km and 1600metres of climbing by inking out the most from my 800Wh battery. On the flats I even turned the motor completely off. But I rarely do rides where I cannot stop for lunch and recharge.
Medium.Unrelated Flux frame question for you...What size did you get, and did you happen to measure the seatpost insertion depth? I'm trying to figure out if I can get a long enough dropper in that frame.
OK yeah, that's not something I want to do 3 times in a day. Will have to wait for something that's made to be quickly removed, preferably without voiding the warranty. (Atherton said their battery can be removed in 5 minutes without touching the motor, but it has to be done by a bike shop to keep the Avinox warranty, and they don't recommend it be done trailside - it's more for travel or long term storage over winter.)Once practiced a few times it would be less than 30mins to get the battery out, and get a new one in.
There are small screws inside the downtube you have to remove, as well as the display. So the chances of dropping and losing them inside the frame, or on the ground is high.
You need to remove the spider and chainwheel to access the motor bolts. This requires a special tool and a heavy wrench.
You have to take the drive side crank off. It just a massive PITA, with high risk of loosing a critical screw.
I carry a 800Wh Ecoflow in my Electric Vehicle, that can charge off my EV's 12V system. This gives me endless charges. And with Avinox's fast charging system. 1% SOC added per minute. I just take a 30min break and add 30%. Or have an extended lunch and add 50%.
So much easier than swapping batteries.
The few times I have been on a big adventure ride. I just conserve battery. I've completed 100km and 1600metres of climbing by inking out the most from my 800Wh battery. On the flats I even turned the motor completely off. But I rarely do rides where I cannot stop for lunch and recharge.
The Amflow PL Carbon Pro was the first EMTB I bought that didn't have a detachable battery, and I thought it might be a problem. But it just hasn't been. So with the Flux being my downhill rig. I really didn't want a detachable battery.Thanks for the additional info! Pulling the spider and crank is definitely getting pretty involved, so you are making a pretty persuasive argument for the fast charger. If lapping a trail center over and over, I could definitely see doing several short breaks to keep adding to the charge as you describe.
The Amflow PL Carbon Pro was the first EMTB I bought that didn't have a detachable battery, and I thought it might be a problem. But it just hasn't been. So with the Flux being my downhill rig. I really didn't want a detachable battery.
But I can understand if you are using the Flux for long continuous riding, it might be a problem, without a detachable battery. And maybe adding a 170mm Fox 38 and a high end Coil shock to the Amflow PR, might be a better option.
But I am keeping my Amflow. So I really wanted a big travel, high pivot, proper Enduro, that was as light as possible, and still looked more MTB than EMTB. The Flux seems to tick every box I wanted.
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Yeah, I am sure for 90%+ of my riding the integrated battery will be fine. It was more of a wanting to "be prepared" thing in case I go to a place that is more of a self shuttling situation that accumulates a lot of vert very quickly.The Amflow PL Carbon Pro was the first EMTB I bought that didn't have a detachable battery, and I thought it might be a problem. But it just hasn't been. So with the Flux being my downhill rig. I really didn't want a detachable battery.
But I can understand if you are using the Flux for long continuous riding, it might be a problem, without a detachable battery. And maybe adding a 170mm Fox 38 and a high end Coil shock to the Amflow PR, might be a better option.
But I am keeping my Amflow. So I really wanted a big travel, high pivot, proper Enduro, that was as light as possible, and still looked more MTB than EMTB. The Flux seems to tick every box I wanted.
From the thread, I can pull together what people have shared about their sizes:How accurate is the size recommendations for the Flux? @Greg Watts can you put a list of peoples Teewing Flux bike sizes and their heights please?
180 cm on a medium.Thanks @Greg Watts can you please keep it updated as more people let us know their height and bike size, cheers
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