Avinox M2

[Yetimans]

Stories like this concern me much more. This is from the Unno FB group

"...its Avinox. Very slow on assistance, parts, motor, battery. It seems non existent brand. Imagine your bike is sitting in the shop for more than 2-3 months and still no parts. For Unno it seems they’re ignoring emails, washing their hands when things go wrong because its not their problem specially on the avinox system..."

Mountain biking is an important hobby to me and I only have two bikes total and only one e-bike. Uptime, reliability, support are all super important to me.
I ordered a new Bosch bike.

You can manage your Avinox warranty through any shop that sells bicycles with Avinox motors. If Unno ignores you, go to another shop that sells that motor. If you need external spare parts quickly, you can still get them from online shops.

It is true that Avinox is experiencing stock problems with spare parts due to the massive orders for its motor from brands, which will create a shortage of bicycles that will arrive in dribs and drabs and a lack of spare parts. This year, it has to manufacture 600,000 motors for bicycles alone, and on top of that, there are warranties and other costs. Let's hope it doesn't die of success.

 

[Yetimans]

December last year Avinox filed a FCC application for a new controller/screen with a 6 month confidentiality request. Not sure if the old controller had the ability to connect to heart rate monitors etc but it looks like the new one does.

https://www.fccidlookup.com/report/avinox-dp100-flat-lte-cycling-computer-fcc-filing-2BRME-DP100F25?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Check out the information for 2025. The current screen already connects to external devices such as heart rate monitor straps, has FCC and Bluetooth certification.

 

[sethimus]

just checked, all spare parts in stock @ swiss distributor. must be a local thing then

 

[sethimus]

 

[John_likes_bikes]

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My man is about 9 months behind.

 

[sethimus]

*tinfoilhatmode* what if that was the new version all the time and they just activate if with a software update in april?

 

[mrtrinh]

*tinfoilhatmode* what if that was the new version all the time and they just activate if with a software update in april?

Then avinox is the ultimate troll

 

[TTEngineer]

Saw a video last night about the new Ibis Ripley SL, and it was mentioned that there were Ibis Bike not in frame that could not be shown. Based on who was on those bikes it’s definitely an ebike.

I’m really hoping Ibis is included in the Avinox m2 madness.

 

[FrogSkunk]

You can manage your Avinox warranty through any shop that sells bicycles with Avinox motors. If Unno ignores you, go to another shop that sells that motor. If you need external spare parts quickly, you can still get them from online shops.

It is true that Avinox is experiencing stock problems with spare parts due to the massive orders for its motor from brands, which will create a shortage of bicycles that will arrive in dribs and drabs and a lack of spare parts. This year, it has to manufacture 600,000 motors for bicycles alone, and on top of that, there are warranties and other costs. Let's hope it doesn't die of success.

Where did you get this info from? I emailed the Avinox support for US customers and they definitely said warranty work should go through the shop the bike was purchased from. I am not saying you are wrong, just curious if you have first hand experience with this.

 

[elesdee]

Saw a video last night about the new Ibis Ripley SL, and it was mentioned that there were Ibis Bike not in frame that could not be shown. Based on who was on those bikes it’s definitely an ebike.

I’m really hoping Ibis is included in the Avinox m2 madness.

New Oso launching this spring. Bosch CX. It looks pretty awesome! Gonna be available in three configurations: long travel burly build, trail/AM build, as well as lightweight short travel; same frame in each case. Lots of adjustability: MX/29, modular dropouts. Basically looks like a current Ripmo/HD6 but with a fat downtube.

 

[sethimus]

but with a fat downtube

sounds like a success, lol

 

[David1960]

There is always something new around the corner. The Avinox M1 has probably been tested more than any other e-motor in 2024 and 2025 thanks to Amflow sending their bikes to anyone who was willing to ride and post a review. I saw a lot of reviewers who stated the bike they got looked “well used” when it showed up for testing, yet they all worked flawlessly. As an Amflow owner I can say there is no need for more power and the almost endless tuning you can do means it will fit your riding style very well.

If someone has information of other bike manufacturers stating they are releasing a bike with the M2 motor for 2026 I haven’t heard that anywhere. Maybe I’m wrong, just haven’t see that anywhere. Unless the M2 form factor is going to be exactly the same as the M1, including battery, Manufactures are already locked in and testing 2026 bikes because engineering the frame/suspension around the motor/battery is not a quick process.

I think we might see a slight refresh of the M1 motor/battery internally to improve things and maybe call it the M2 but that’s about it.

I agree with you. I have had amflow for year. Don’t need more power. I very rarely go above trail mode as don’t really need extra power. Even in trail it’s beats my mondraker Bosch cx motor hands down. Amflow best bike ever. I don’t see how new bike will make much difference apart from larger battery’s that is useful upgrade.

 

[David1960]

New Oso launching this spring. Bosch CX. It looks pretty awesome! Gonna be available in three configurations: long travel burly build, trail/AM build, as well as lightweight short travel; same frame in each case. Lots of adjustability: MX/29, modular dropouts. Basically looks like a current Ripmo/HD6 but with a fat downtube.

The Bosch cx motor was is no where near as powerful as amflow. The peak power of amflow alone blows all the other bikes out of the water. I have Bosch cx motor on mondraker I have kept -great bike - still ride it but can’t compare to the am flow.
I cycle with 3 guys with - we have Avinox motors and one guy with gen 5 Bosch motor. The bosch gen 5 is left standing. However it’s still good bike.

 

[ozzybmx]

The Bosch cx motor was is no where near as powerful as amflow. The peak power of amflow alone blows all the other bikes out of the water. I have Bosch cx motor on mondraker I have kept -great bike - still ride it but can’t compare to the am flow.
I cycle with 3 guys with - we have Avinox motors and one guy with gen 5 Bosch motor. The bosch gen 5 is left standing. However it’s still good bike.

Agree on both of your posts, but where does Bosch go from here, they lobbied and got an agreed 750w done with the UCI... there would be no way they would go above that surely ? Is it a power race, I have Gen 4 Bosch and the DJI in Auto is more powerful than my Bosch is in turbo. They are on the backfoot.

 

[David1960]

Agree on both of your posts, but where does Bosch go from here, they lobbied and got an agreed 750w done with the UCI... there would be no way they would go above that surely ? Is it a power race, I have Gen 4 Bosch and the DJI in Auto is more powerful than my Bosch is in turbo. They are on the backfoot.

Yes agree. Even 750 not enough to compare with Avinox.

 

[ozzybmx]

Yes agree. Even 750 not enough to compare with Avinox.

Maybe it is, but the ability to make the Avinox increase from 25kph to 32kph or more is a bigger attraction to the DJI than the watts/Nm.

Bosch bricking my .... wait for it $17000au Ibis Oso (before they done price corrections) is a shit show.

 

[Lightme]

Maybe it is, but the ability to make the Avinox increase from 25kph to 32kph or more is a bigger attraction to the DJI than the watts/Nm.

Bosch bricking my .... wait for it $17000au Ibis Oso (before they done price corrections) is a shit show.

Definitely agree. As an Australian, the 25km/h speed limit is ridiculous. The difficulty of Bosch over Avinox here is a bigger selling point than the power difference to me. I’d have bought a SC Bullit by now were it not for how restrictive Bosch are. No ant+ etc., surprisingly poor warranty support has put me off buying another Bosch equiped bike.

 

[ozzybmx]

Definitely agree. As an Australian, the 25km/h speed limit is ridiculous. The difficulty of Bosch over Avinox here is a bigger selling point than the power difference to me. I’d have bought a SC Bullit by now were it not for how restrictive Bosch are. No ant+ etc., surprisingly poor warranty support has put me off buying another Bosch equiped bike.

Its terrible, hitting that wall is is big put off. Spend mega cash on an ebike and be limited when other countries aren't is shithouse. Thats why I bought the Amflow and at this current time, would not buy a bike without the DJI motor.

 

[TTEngineer]

New Oso launching this spring. Bosch CX. It looks pretty awesome! Gonna be available in three configurations: long travel burly build, trail/AM build, as well as lightweight short travel; same frame in each case. Lots of adjustability: MX/29, modular dropouts. Basically looks like a current Ripmo/HD6 but with a fat downtube.

Spy shot link?

 

[Larsey]

New Oso launching this spring. Bosch CX. It looks pretty awesome! Gonna be available in three configurations: long travel burly build, trail/AM build, as well as lightweight short travel; same frame in each case. Lots of adjustability: MX/29, modular dropouts. Basically looks like a current Ripmo/HD6 but with a fat downtube.

So a more conventional swingarm or still the single like current Oso?

 

[elesdee]

So a more conventional swingarm or still the single like current Oso?

Yes, conventional rear triangle. Nothing in common with the original Oso. Imagine an ebike version of a Ripmo.

@TTEngineer can’t share, sorry!

 

[Red Peekay]

I ordered a Forbidden Druid Core back in April when they were first released through my LBS in Oz. Expectations were that it would arrive some time in the second half of the year, around August/Sept. It landed mid December, 2 days before I booted out for Canada for the Winter (here). I wasn't able to take delivery and don't get back till end March.
My LBS reached out (I had only put down a deposit) as they wanted to move it on due to demand. They stated that the next batch of "updated" eDruids would land between April and June with "some updated parts and the second generation motor from DJI". They also stated there would be a number of other ebike options available to me (I'm hoping the eDreadnought) coming and wrote "This is a better outcome than collecting a generation M1 DJI when M2 is coming out"

After trolling the web and talking to the LBS's here in Canada (two now have taken on the Velduro dealerships), it would appear the M2 is an update to the M1. A bit more power, quieter (worked on the seals) and improved battery capacity through engineering (same weight, just better efficiencies). DJI/Avinox being the type of fast moving electronics giant they are, are probably working on improved models all the time. Same fixing points, but ironing out the identified problems and as someone else here posted, value adding (more sensors etc).

I suspect that the release of a different model motor by Avinox will target a completely different market (which I suspect many people think is the M2 but which is just an improved M1) such as the commuter/recreation bike market. I reckon this will have a completely different "callsign" and will not be a "M" version.

I'll touch base with my Oz LBS closer to my return date to see what they have got on the horizon, however I will hang out for the "predicted" Forbidden eDreadnought. If that doesn't eventuate or is going to take forever to be released, I'll wait for the Atherton ebike to be released beyond the EU and UK.

 

[Ribinrobin]

I ordered a Forbidden Druid Core back in April when they were first released through my LBS in Oz. Expectations were that it would arrive some time in the second half of the year, around August/Sept. It landed mid December, 2 days before I booted out for Canada for the Winter (here). I wasn't able to take delivery and don't get back till end March.
My LBS reached out (I had only put down a deposit) as they wanted to move it on due to demand. They stated that the next batch of "updated" eDruids would land between April and June with "some updated parts and the second generation motor from DJI". They also stated there would be a number of other ebike options available to me (I'm hoping the eDreadnought) coming and wrote "This is a better outcome than collecting a generation M1 DJI when M2 is coming out"

After trolling the web and talking to the LBS's here in Canada (two now have taken on the Velduro dealerships), it would appear the M2 is an update to the M1. A bit more power, quieter (worked on the seals) and improved battery capacity through engineering (same weight, just better efficiencies). DJI/Avinox being the type of fast moving electronics giant they are, are probably working on improved models all the time. Same fixing points, but ironing out the identified problems and as someone else here posted, value adding (more sensors etc).

I suspect that the release of a different model motor by Avinox will target a completely different market (which I suspect many people think is the M2 but which is just an improved M1) such as the commuter/recreation bike market. I reckon this will have a completely different "callsign" and will not be a "M" version.

I'll touch base with my Oz LBS closer to my return date to see what they have got on the horizon, however I will hang out for the "predicted" Forbidden eDreadnought. If that doesn't eventuate or is going to take forever to be released, I'll wait for the Atherton ebike to be released beyond the EU and UK.

I had a order for a m2 motored druid in july but ive just pulled plug on a new m1 model as i can get it this week. Im sure the m2 will be a bit better but im not after more power and currently without a ebike

 

[David1960]

I had an order for a m2 motored druid in july but ive just pulled plug on a new m1 model as i can get it this week. Im sure the m2 will be a bit better but im not after more power and currently without a ebike

I have amflow. My friend has uno mith. The Avinox motors m1 is incredible . We rarely even use turbo or boost as bike is so powerful. I would not bother waiting for M2

 

[Highland Wheels]

T

I had a order for a m2 motored druid in july but ive just pulled plug on a new m1 model as i can get it this week. Im sure the m2 will be a bit better but im not after more power and currently without a ebike

The M1 is still and will be a cracking power unit, I could of cancelled my M1 Druid and waited for something with the new version but tbh it isn't going to be a huge change between them so I was happy to stick with the M1.


I don't use anywhere near the max power and torque anyway so the new version that has more of both isn't a selling point.

What would of changed my mind would of been a significantly lighter motor and battery combo, but we are still a way off from that, from what I've been told as well the "new" batteries that come in 2026 will be backwards compatible as is the mounting points of the M2 so I guess you could always upgrade in the future if your M1 decided to give up.

 

[Adyzakydany]

The Bosch cx motor was is no where near as powerful as amflow. The peak power of amflow alone blows all the other bikes out of the water. I have Bosch cx motor on mondraker I have kept -great bike - still ride it but can’t compare to the am flow.
I cycle with 3 guys with - we have Avinox motors and one guy with gen 5 Bosch motor. The bosch gen 5 is left standing. However it’s still good bike.

That's not my experience, I have a Trek Rail+ 8 Gen 5 (Bosch 100NM) and a PL Carbon, the Amflow is more powerful, but doesn't leave my Rail standing, the CX feels more refined and is dead silent, Avinox lacks in this department, I'm hopeing the M2 improves in these two areas.

 

[Ribinrobin]

T
The M1 is still and will be a cracking power unit, I could of cancelled my M1 Druid and waited for something with the new version but tbh it isn't going to be a huge change between them so I was happy to stick with the M1.


I don't use anywhere near the max power and torque anyway so the new version that has more of both isn't a selling point.

What would of changed my mind would of been a significantly lighter motor and battery combo, but we are still a way off from that, from what I've been told as well the "new" batteries that come in 2026 will be backwards compatible as is the mounting points of the M2 so I guess you could always upgrade in the future if your M1 decided to give up.

I had an amflow prior to this but found the XL to big (fan of shorter bikes) i got a normal druid in s3 so hoping this will be a spot on purchase. Actually comes today so super stoked!

 

[Highland Wheels]

I had an amflow prior to this but found the XL to big (fan of shorter bikes) i got a normal druid in s3 so hoping this will be a spot on purchase. Actually comes today so super stoked!

Enjoy, they are properly good and punch way above what the travel numbers say they do.

 

[ntm95]

I ordered a Forbidden Druid Core back in April when they were first released through my LBS in Oz. Expectations were that it would arrive some time in the second half of the year, around August/Sept. It landed mid December, 2 days before I booted out for Canada for the Winter (here). I wasn't able to take delivery and don't get back till end March.
My LBS reached out (I had only put down a deposit) as they wanted to move it on due to demand. They stated that the next batch of "updated" eDruids would land between April and June with "some updated parts and the second generation motor from DJI". They also stated there would be a number of other ebike options available to me (I'm hoping the eDreadnought) coming and wrote "This is a better outcome than collecting a generation M1 DJI when M2 is coming out"

After trolling the web and talking to the LBS's here in Canada (two now have taken on the Velduro dealerships), it would appear the M2 is an update to the M1. A bit more power, quieter (worked on the seals) and improved battery capacity through engineering (same weight, just better efficiencies). DJI/Avinox being the type of fast moving electronics giant they are, are probably working on improved models all the time. Same fixing points, but ironing out the identified problems and as someone else here posted, value adding (more sensors etc).

I suspect that the release of a different model motor by Avinox will target a completely different market (which I suspect many people think is the M2 but which is just an improved M1) such as the commuter/recreation bike market. I reckon this will have a completely different "callsign" and will not be a "M" version.

I'll touch base with my Oz LBS closer to my return date to see what they have got on the horizon, however I will hang out for the "predicted" Forbidden eDreadnought. If that doesn't eventuate or is going to take forever to be released, I'll wait for the Atherton ebike to be released beyond the EU and UK.

You out of the western canada area ?
I can tell you where you can order a e dreadnought today...

The battery improvements are the m65 cells, which everyone will adopt soon, but probably not before 2027. There is no battery "innovation" in the e-bike space, they just use whatever is commercially available.

 

[Red Peekay]

You out of the western canada area ?
I can tell you where you can order a e dreadnought today...

The battery improvements are the m65 cells, which everyone will adopt soon, but probably not before 2027. There is no battery "innovation" in the e-bike space, they just use whatever is commercially available.

I'm currently in the Kootenays till the end of March. I come out every year for the winter to escape the Oz heat and flies! I used to guide here but now just ski tour and fat bike for the winter.
Head home to Oz April through to November.
The good part is I can pretty much ride all year back home.
Tragically no point in ordering an eDreadnought here, too hard to get it home with batteries etc.