Velduro Rogue 170/165 mullet Enduro with DJI

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The screws are specific, yes. What I mean is this thing here:
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It's just that I want to have everything ready once the frame arrives. Waiting one minute longer than necessary to start riding is not acceptable. ☺️
 
That is the shock hardware, exactly what I said earlier. Most people will tell you that they are all the same but I have had issues before... Order an 8x30 bushing kit to suit the shock you are going to be fitting
 
Muff1tt said:
That is the shock hardware, exactly what I said earlier. Most people will tell you that they are all the same but I have had issues before... Order an 8x30 bushing kit to suit the shock you are going to be fitting
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The Fox kit has worked best for me with this frame. The new RockShox are bearings and too large to fit the frame spacing.
 
bmwpowere36m3 said:
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VERY interesting, thanks for sharing.

What I found the most interesting is the reviewer's opinion on the chain stay being "just right" in size L, contrary to Rob's earlier opinion.

Sign of the fact that Rob was likely on a size too small for him (as he himself suggested) and/or that CS length is indeed a matter of very personal preference ;)
 
Fun review. Such a likeable bike.

56#s is no joke. I know it had a coil shock (in reality they barely weigh more than a proper air shock), DD (not DH) tires & inserts, but that's a stout gal. I guess what caught me a bit off guard was the nearly identical frame Norco VLT in the PB shootout was 49#s. Only real weight difference was the tires, inserts, fork & edited wheels.

I also thought the range, at under 1500m to drain an 800, was a little low. But he is a big guy on a heavy bike.
 
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rabitec said:
VERY interesting, thanks for sharing.

What I found the most interesting is the reviewer's opinion on the chain stay being "just right" in size L, contrary to Rob's earlier opinion.

Sign of the fact that Rob was likely on a size too small for him (as he himself suggested) and/or that CS length is indeed a matter of very personal preference ;)
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Yeah, we have to take every reviewers opinion with a grain of salt and consider their preferences in relation to our personal preferences. 440cs pn a mid pivot for med and large is in the range from where im sitting.

Personally on a mid pivot size medium at 466 reach (which is closer to most companies large) 440cs would be the gravy for me. That would give a 445 sagged cs which is imo absolutely bang on the money.
 
Suns_PSD said:
Fun review. Such a likeable bike.

56#s is no joke. I know it had a coil shock (in reality they barely weigh more than a proper air shock), DD (not DH) tires & inserts, but that's a stout gal. I guess what caught me a bit off guard was the nearly identical frame Norco VLT in the PB shootout was 49#s. Only real weight difference was the tires, inserts & fork.

I also thought the range, at under 1500m to drain an 800, was a little low. But he is a big guy on a heavy bike.
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Yeah seems like a heavy build to me. Maybe the parts mix was all heavy alloy stuff? I'm sure that bike can be built to sub 24kg with a choice selection of parts.

Re the vert. If ya punching turbo laps 1500 vert is a worthy amount. I can easily burn my 600wh bosch out in less the 1000m vert going full brain melter mode.
 
Plummet said:
Yeah seems like a heavy build to me. Maybe the parts mix was all heavy alloy stuff? I'm sure that bike can be built to sub 24kg with a choice selection of parts.

Re the vert. If ya punching turbo laps 1500 vert is a worthy amount. I can easily burn my 600wh bosch out in less the 1000m vert going full brain melter mode.
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Most of the builds i’ve seen are between 23.5 and 24kgs
 
sethimus said:
that's what i'm shooting at too with coil rear and intend flash front
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To be fair Stephane looks like a unit so he probably needs all the heavy stuff and armoured tyres and wheels, he looks like a man who can and will find the limits of anything mechanical 😂
 
sethimus said:
that's what i'm shooting at too with coil rear and intend flash front
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Have you weighed your current set up and if so, list the build?

A lot of the weight in a coil shock is in the spring, so even rider weight effects the weight of the shock.

For example, my Bomber CR w/ a 500# spring weighs 771 grams. The X2 in the same size weighs 763. So, no difference really.
 
I’ll wash and weigh mine this week. Think it’s in its final form, swapped to the ext E-storia & Ohlins 38. It’s truly a magic carpet ride now 🤩
 
Suns_PSD said:
Have you weighed your current set up and if so, list the build?

A lot of the weight in a coil shock is in the spring, so even rider weight effects the weight of the shock.

For example, my Bomber CR w/ a 500# spring weighs 771 grams. The X2 in the same size weighs 763. So, no difference really.
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my kenevo sl is around 21kg atm, i will change a few parts though:

FrameVelduro Rogue L
Frame ProtectionInvisiframe
HeadsetWorks Components 0.5
ForkIntend Flash
ShockFast Suspension 550lbs
Front WheelTurbine V2 29
Rear WheelSidekick/ARC31 Carbon/Pillar
Tubeless ValvesAirfix Super Valve 40mm
SealantMilkit 250ml
Front TireKryptotal Fr Supersoft 29 2.4
Rear TireKryptotal Re Soft 29 2.4
HandlebarOneup 800 50mm
StemNewmen 318.4 50mm
Spacer2x10 Carbon
Grips70X M
ShifterGX Pod
Dropper LeverWolftooth Pro
CranksAvinox 155m
PedalsOutlier Pendulum
ChainringE13 34t
DropperOneup V3 31.6 240mm
Seatpost clamp
Saddle60X 14cm
Rear DerailleurGX Transmission
CassetteX0 Transmission
ChainGX Transmission
BrakesIntend Trinity
Front DiscTRP RS05E 220
Rear DiscTRP RS05E 203

(not the current list, some parts will change)
 
sethimus said:
my kenevo sl is around 21kg atm, i will change a few parts though:

FrameVelduro Rogue L
Frame ProtectionInvisiframe
HeadsetWorks Components 0.5
ForkIntend Flash
ShockFast Suspension 550lbs
Front WheelTurbine V2 29
Rear WheelSidekick/ARC31 Carbon/Pillar
Tubeless ValvesAirfix Super Valve 40mm
SealantMilkit 250ml
Front TireKryptotal Fr Supersoft 29 2.4
Rear TireKryptotal Re Soft 29 2.4
HandlebarOneup 800 50mm
StemNewmen 318.4 50mm
Spacer2x10 Carbon
Grips70X M
ShifterGX Pod
Dropper LeverWolftooth Pro
CranksAvinox 155m
PedalsOutlier Pendulum
ChainringE13 34t
DropperOneup V3 31.6 240mm
Seatpost clamp
Saddle60X 14cm
Rear DerailleurGX Transmission
CassetteX0 Transmission
ChainGX Transmission
BrakesIntend Trinity
Front DiscTRP RS05E 220
Rear DiscTRP RS05E 203

(not the current list, some parts will change)
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Are you going 0.5 steeper or slacker on the headset?
 
Suns_PSD said:
Fun review. Such a likeable bike.

56#s is no joke. I know it had a coil shock (in reality they barely weigh more than a proper air shock), DD (not DH) tires & inserts, but that's a stout gal. I guess what caught me a bit off guard was the nearly identical frame Norco VLT in the PB shootout was 49#s. Only real weight difference was the tires, inserts, fork & edited wheels.

I also thought the range, at under 1500m to drain an 800, was a little low. But he is a big guy on a heavy bike.
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For context I just built up a Norco Sight VLT CX in 160 range trim with a 40, coil, cushcore, etc. that landed at 54.7lbs

Velduro frame must be quite a bit burlier (not a bad thing).

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