Velduro Rogue 170/165 mullet Enduro with DJI

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Hi guys,

The size Large Rogue R wheelbase measures 1275mm.
Hope this helps people make the decision between sizes 👍
I do hope the incorrect geo chart is updated asap for future customers on the websites to avoid confusion.
The wheelbase appears wrong for all sizes bar small based on my calculations.
 
Nice.

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Static measurements, size Large:

Front Centre: 838mm
Chainstay: 437mm
Wheelbase: 1275mm
BB Height: 352mm

More in line with what I thought. Geo chart is quite a bit off.

Bike looks nice in person. All the little details like chainstay protection, chainguard, downtube protector look decent. I am not a fan of matt unpainted carbon bikes, but the Invisiframe kit makes it look more premium.

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Why the derailleur battery Rob ? Can you run the cable ? I noticed Gee Milner dream build also used a battery.
 
Why the derailleur battery Rob ? Can you run the cable ? I noticed Gee Milner dream build also used a battery.
It can run the cable through the CS (and as far as I know full UK builds will come with it). The routing at the motor end where it enters the BB area looks like its will result it a slightly longer run (uses the same run as a regular cable fed bike).

Would be good to see an entry point for it nearer the rear of the motor area to clean it up a bit.

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Hi guys,

The size Large Rogue R wheelbase measures 1275mm.
Hope this helps people make the decision between sizes 👍
Cheers for doing that, much appreciated.
I am even happier with my size L now, but Velduro NZ should be made aware of the discrepancy for future customers.
 
Hi guys,

The size Large Rogue R wheelbase measures 1275mm.
Hope this helps people make the decision between sizes 👍
so how much can we rely on the geo table? or the linkage diagrams provided in the first spoke magazine feature?
 
Static measurements, size Large:

Front Centre: 838mm
Chainstay: 437mm
Wheelbase: 1275mm
BB Height: 352mm

More in line with what I thought. Geo chart is quite a bit off.

Bike looks nice in person. All the little details like chainstay protection, chainguard, downtube protector look decent. I am not a fan of matt unpainted carbon bikes, but the Invisiframe kit makes it look more premium.

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Was the InvisiFRAME kit used gloss or matte, Rob??
 
Static measurements, size Large:

Front Centre: 838mm
Chainstay: 437mm
Wheelbase: 1275mm
BB Height: 352mm

More in line with what I thought. Geo chart is quite a bit off.

Bike looks nice in person. All the little details like chainstay protection, chainguard, downtube protector look decent. I am not a fan of matt unpainted carbon bikes, but the Invisiframe kit makes it look more premium.

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Cheers Rob, looking forward to hearing what you think.
Strange about the geo; I thought a 1300 eh in L was extreme and I’m glad it’s 1275.
I know you like longer CS, so it will be interesting to see if the mid pivot extension gives you a nice middle ground.
 
Would be good to see an entry point for it nearer the rear of the motor area to clean it up a bit.
Hmmm ....... Can't say I'm a fan of how the external routing is done through the BB area, on both the drive, and non-drive side. On the non-drive side, the speed sensor can be tied to the more rigid brake cable to keep it neat. But that derailleur power cable is going to want to do it's own thing, and not lay so neatly.

I can understand why it was not added to the dream build. But I want coast shift. So that's not an option.

Just looking at the non-drive side on the website. That really is quite unsightly. And looking at the speed sensor cable, that derailleur power cable on the other side is going to need to be tied into something.

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Hmmm ....... Can't say I'm a fan of how the external routing is done through the BB area, on both the drive, and non-drive side. On the non-drive side, the speed sensor can be tied to the more rigid brake cable to keep it neat. But that derailleur power cable is going to want to do it's own thing, and not lay so neatly.

I can understand why it was not added to the dream build. But I want coast shift. So that's not an option.

Just looking at the non-drive side on the website. That really is quite unsightly. And looking at the speed sensor cable, that derailleur power cable on the other side is going to need to be tied into something.

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As a company they seem very open to user feedback and implementing ideas that produce a good product. Let them know.
 
As a company they seem very open to user feedback and implementing ideas that produce a good product. Let them know.
Good idea. Crestline re-routed the cables for the DJI motor after their first iteration.

Something like this closer to the pivot of the chainstay, then not so far up the downtube.

But the biggest issue with the current setup, is how far from the pivot the cable comes out of the chainstay. You are going to have to allow for some significant movement. So even just moving the spot where it comes out of the chainstay, closer to the pivot, is going to make a huge difference.

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I’ve also noted that the shock flip chip can be swapped from one side to another, which will make the markings incorrect. Mounting hole to the rear is progressive and forward is STD.
Edit, mine were swapped. Looks like yours may be as well.
Are you saying that the text is incorrectly oriented?

From that Spoke article, looks like Progressive (longer travel) is in this orientation...

EDIT: I understand what you mean - they can be interchanged from left side of bike to right side of bike, meaning that they will incorrectly show the status of the flip chip...

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Mine is the other way round, saying STD travel is in this orientation...

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Good idea. Crestline re-routed the cables for the DJI motor after their first iteration.

Something like this closer to the pivot of the chainstay, then not so far up the downtube.

But the biggest issue with the current setup, is how far from the pivot the cable comes out of the chainstay. You are going to have to allow for some significant movement. So even just moving the spot where it comes out of the chainstay, closer to the pivot, is going to make a huge difference.

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Seems to look more like that on another photo i found. Perhaps a newer variant of the frame.
I can't find a pic of the other side with the port in that place. Assume they would both be the same, but maybe it would put too much of a bend on the gear cable. As long as i can run a cable mech.

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Seems to look more like that on another photo i found. Perhaps a newer variant of the frame.
I can't find a pic of the other side with the port in that place. Assume they would both be the same, but maybe it would put too much of a bend on the gear cable. As long as i can run a cable mech.

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That looks much better. The arc created will better hold the cable in place.

Kind of glad I'm on the pre-order, so you guys can forge the path. ;)
 
Are you saying that the text is incorrectly oriented?

From that Spoke article, looks like Progressive (longer travel) is in this orientation...

EDIT: I understand what you mean - they can be interchanged from left side of bike to right side of bike, meaning that they will incorrectly show the status of the flip chip...

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Mine is the other way round, saying STD travel is in this orientation...

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The manual has the bolt going in from the drive side Rob. Yours is the wrong way.
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Are you saying that the text is incorrectly oriented?

From that Spoke article, looks like Progressive (longer travel) is in this orientation...

EDIT: I understand what you mean - they can be interchanged from left side of bike to right side of bike, meaning that they will incorrectly show the status of the flip chip...

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Mine is the other way round, saying STD travel is in this orientation...

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The manual and markings seem to be intended to have the bolt go in from the drive side. If it is on the non drive side like mine and yours were delivered the markings are incorrect.
 
That looks much better. The arc created will better hold the cable in place.

Kind of glad I'm on the pre-order, so you guys can forge the path. ;)
I don't think anyone of us knows exactly what we will be getting for delivery next spring, hopefully it will become clearer nearer the time. Lots of rumours and half leaked info floating around.
At least the deposit is refundable, in the uk at least.
But from what ive seen so far it's looking good.
 
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