Velduro Rogue 170/165 mullet Enduro with DJI

Can you get Velduro graphic sticker separately?
I really don't like black bike and Totaly hate gold. So if I pull the trigger I will get it repaint as soon as frame arrive.
 
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Can you get Velduro graphic sticker separately?
I really don't like black bike and Totaly hate gold. So if I pull the trigger I will get it repaint as soon as frame arrive.
same, i want silver letters. slik graphics should be able to make some if velduro gives out the vector files
 
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We’ve slowly started putting together our dream build! We decided on a super enduro setup with the EXT Era V2 LT 180 mm up front and the 205×65 mm E-Storia in the rear. Braking will be handled by the Hope GR4 in the Smoke color, and the wheelset will be in the same combo. I think this is going to be an absolute rocket-ship!
 
The pace is ripping on..... feeling the Rogue buzz but yet to smash the button.... being 5"7 - 170cm anyone here ordered a size Small ?
Cheers!
 
Its the enormous wheelbase im wary of the large. 450mm chainstay (supposedly) +15mm at sag. +8mm additional offset if i use my fox40 will add another 33mm to the already long 1300mm.
Im prepared to give their sizing recommendations a try, but yes would very much like to try both.
Using the Atherton sizing calculator brings me much nearer to the med though.

Edit its actually about 10mm at sag.

I've just checked the geo numbers against my current orbea wild size large

The reach on the rogue is +5mm and wheelbase is only +23mm. The chainstay is rumoured to be 450mm on the production frames so that's only +2mm over the wild but then the wheelbase will increase another 10mm to make it +33mm. Does this make sense or am I getting my numbers wrong?

If I am correct then i personally think I will be sound on the large as it will feel pretty similar to wild and then I just have to get used to the I-track system and characteristics

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Invisiframe normally get these done pretty quickly for new launches
We delivered a Rogue large frameset to invisiframe on Thursday. The decals and size large frame protection will be available almost immediately. All other sizes will be sent to them as they arrive in UK.
 
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I've just checked the geo numbers against my current orbea wild size large

The reach on the rogue is +5mm and wheelbase is only +23mm. The chainstay is rumoured to be 450mm on the production frames so that's only +2mm over the wild but then the wheelbase will increase another 10mm to make it +33mm. Does this make sense or am I getting my numbers wrong?

If I am correct then i personally think I will be sound on the large as it will feel pretty similar to wild and then I just have to get used to the I-track system and characteristics

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yes, you will sit and stand more centrally „in“ the bike, i‘d experiment with a slightly shorter stem. riding up and standing will also require less leaning forward
 
yes, you will sit and stand more centrally „in“ the bike, i‘d experiment with a slightly shorter stem. riding up and standing will also require less leaning forward

Sounds like its the right size I've gone for then, the stem I'm running is already 35mm so not much options to go shorter but I'm sure il get used to it.
Thank you
 
Rogue size med frame (I'm 5'10") and still not entirely sure coming off specialized s4 sizing.
Protection - strategically placed helitape
Fork - fox40 @190mm (may buy a single crown)
Shock - ext e-storia (only part i need to buy)
Drivetrain - Shimano 10 speed linkglide
Cranks - whatever it comes with
Pedals - crank bros stamp7
Wheels - santa cruz reserve mullet
Tyres - conti krypto
Brakes - m820 saints
Rotors - Magura 220 floating
Bars - spank vibrocore 50mm rise
Grips - Revgrips
Stem - spank dm 40mm
Dropper - oneup 210mm
Saddle - Ergon sm enduro

Plus the 12A fast charger.
Thanks I really appreciate the build parts info. What do you think of link glide 10 speed compared to the new SRAM Transmission? Is the durability of the Linkglide cassette and or cost the main difference here and in your experience is Linkglide better than the new SRAM transmission? In your experience how is the shifting performance under load on the Linkglide versus SRAM?
 
Haven't tried mechanical transmission yet but I prefer GX transmission to Linkglide although Linkglide is much better than Hyperglide on an ebike - much tougher with a very satisfying clunk when changing.

Di2 is great but still possible to fluff changes and potentially damage the cassette which hasn't happened to me, yet, on GX.

I wonder if Di2 10s or 11s will do full auto with Avinox like it does with Shimano EP8?
 
Thanks I really appreciate the build parts info. What do you think of link glide 10 speed compared to the new SRAM Transmission? Is the durability of the Linkglide cassette and or cost the main difference here and in your experience is Linkglide better than the new SRAM transmission? In your experience how is the shifting performance under load on the Linkglide versus SRAM?

A friend of mine has link glide on his whyte e180 and he doesn't rate it at all. He's gone through the same amount of chains and cassettes if not more as he did on his old gx 12 speed setup (it's worth noting he is a powerful rider and rides a lot of tech, he does put a lot of strength through the drivetrain)

I'm running t-type and can massively tell the difference over my old xo axs setup. It seems to work better the more load I put through it. I haven't really found the slower shifting speed to be an issue and always able to grab the right gear at the right time

So far I have hit a fair few rocks, the mech moves out the way quick enough on impact and still shifts perfectly. I'm not a lightweight either at 98kg kitted up, the bike tends to stay direct and not deflect when I hit something so I seem to be testing the durability with good results

This is just mine and a friends experiences though I'm sure there are many other inputs to be given by others
 
I did see the Spoke article on their pre production Rogue drivetrain choice of Linkglide. See below.

I do love the older SRAM AXS drivetrain from 2021 or so that I have on my Kenevo expert, however, I have never ridden the newer SRAM transmission kit or Shimano Linkglide so that is why I am encouraging a discussion here.

What are everyone’s thoughts or experiences with Linkglide versus SRAM Transmission?

“with no spare AXS kit in the shed (and the cost of a fresh one giving me pause), I started weighing up alternatives with Alex. Our conversation turned to some interesting posts from Brad Kelly—ex-World Cup mechanic—who’s been testing an Avinox-powered Amflow bike. While he’d been impressed by the motor’s hefty power output, he’d also noted accelerated chain and cassette wear, and some gear slippage, after only a couple of hundred kilometres on a 12-speed setup.

Given that, and the fact this build is very much part of a testing process, we decided to go a different route and try Shimano’s XT 11-speed LinkGlide mechanical drivetrain. It’s heavier and less refined than the more premium offerings, but it’s designed specifically for longevity and eMTB abuse. The 11–50T cassette uses durable steel cogs and a modular layout which allows for easy replacement of the smaller sprockets—the ones that typically wear first on eMTBs. The full setup—cassette, derailleur, shifter and 138-link e-bike chain—came in around NZ$650 retail, which is considerably cheaper than the lighter weight, electronic versions.”
 
I did see the Spoke article on their pre production Rogue drivetrain choice of Linkglide. See below.

I do love the older SRAM AXS drivetrain from 2021 or so that I have on my Kenevo expert, however, I have never ridden the newer SRAM transmission kit or Shimano Linkglide so that is why I am encouraging a discussion here.

What are everyone’s thoughts or experiences with Linkglide versus SRAM Transmission?

“with no spare AXS kit in the shed (and the cost of a fresh one giving me pause), I started weighing up alternatives with Alex. Our conversation turned to some interesting posts from Brad Kelly—ex-World Cup mechanic—who’s been testing an Avinox-powered Amflow bike. While he’d been impressed by the motor’s hefty power output, he’d also noted accelerated chain and cassette wear, and some gear slippage, after only a couple of hundred kilometres on a 12-speed setup.

Given that, and the fact this build is very much part of a testing process, we decided to go a different route and try Shimano’s XT 11-speed LinkGlide mechanical drivetrain. It’s heavier and less refined than the more premium offerings, but it’s designed specifically for longevity and eMTB abuse. The 11–50T cassette uses durable steel cogs and a modular layout which allows for easy replacement of the smaller sprockets—the ones that typically wear first on eMTBs. The full setup—cassette, derailleur, shifter and 138-link e-bike chain—came in around NZ$650 retail, which is considerably cheaper than the lighter weight, electronic versions.”
This is very handy information re the extra loads the avinox system will give.

I only have experience with shimano and bosch so will be interesting to see the new wear life of my t-type
 
I'm considering link glide purely from a cost perspective

My sram 70 drivetrain cassette is done after 3months/1000miles, so ~ £200 for a chain and cassette vs £50 for 10 speed linkglide. On an avinox motor pretty much only use gears 5-10 on the 12speed anyway
 
A friend of mine has link glide on his whyte e180 and he doesn't rate it at all. He's gone through the same amount of chains and cassettes if not more as he did on his old gx 12 speed setup (it's worth noting he is a powerful rider and rides a lot of tech, he does put a lot of strength through the drivetrain)

I'm running t-type and can massively tell the difference over my old xo axs setup. It seems to work better the more load I put through it. I haven't really found the slower shifting speed to be an issue and always able to grab the right gear at the right time

So far I have hit a fair few rocks, the mech moves out the way quick enough on impact and still shifts perfectly. I'm not a lightweight either at 98kg kitted up, the bike tends to stay direct and not deflect when I hit something so I seem to be testing the durability with good results

This is just mine and a friends experiences though I'm sure there are many other inputs to be given by others
Thanks I appreciate your input. I have been using the SRAM AXS rear mech with a Shimano XT 6100 rear cassette and Shimano XT chain on my Kenevo. I measure chain wear about every two months and typically change chains a couple times a season and fit a new cassette when I start seeing a gap between the new chain and rear sprocket teeth.
 
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Thanks I really appreciate the build parts info. What do you think of link glide 10 speed compared to the new SRAM Transmission? Is the durability of the Linkglide cassette and or cost the main difference here and in your experience is Linkglide better than the new SRAM transmission? In your experience how is the shifting performance under load on the Linkglide versus SRAM?
Personal preference. I don't like sram stuff whether is cabled or not and see no need for 12 gears on an ebike. Linkglide is dirt cheap, £47 cassette and £25 derailleur.
Been running it for two years now, wouldn't run anything else.
Im thankful velduro allow the choice rather than unno who haven't provisioned for a cable mech.
 
Personal preference. I don't like sram stuff whether is cabled or not and see no need for 12 gears on an ebike. Linkglide is dirt cheap, £47 cassette and £25 derailleur.
Been running it for two years now, wouldn't run anything else.
Im thankful velduro allow the choice rather than unno who haven't provisioned for a cable mech.
That is a great point.

What are your thoughts on the DJI “auto shift” or its ability to change gears while coasting when using an electronic rear mech? Not sure what that feature is called.
 
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extra load shouldn’t be an issue when the derailleur is powered by the battery and the motor reduces torque when shifting
 
We delivered a Rogue large frame to invisiframe on Thursday. The decals and large frame protection will be available almost immediately the other sizes will be sent to them as they arrive in UK.
what about the longer chainstay on the future large? will there be 2 frame protection versions? or will they adapt those files already for the longer stays?
 
The pace is ripping on..... feeling the Rogue buzz but yet to smash the button.... being 5"7 - 170cm anyone here ordered a size Small ?
Cheers!
Hi I'm same size as you and wondering if I should bo small or medium.
I'm very happy from my Canyon Strive-on Small. It look to be in between Rogue S and M,
My Strive-On has 450 reach and I use it with Burgtec 35mm stem
So maybe Velduro S frame with 42.5mm Burgtec stem will feel very similar

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Hi I'm same size as you and wondering if I should bo small or medium.
I'm very happy from my Canyon Strive-on Small. It look to be in between Rogue S and M,
My Strive-On has 450 reach and I use it with Burgtec 35mm stem
So maybe Velduro S frame with 42.5mm Burgtec stem will feel very similar

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Thanks for chiming in Mars 2, l have a Norco Range with same reach numbers as your Strive and l use a 40.0 stem. CS is 440.... what l have been wondering on with the Small Rogue is the effect on cs growth possibly to 450mm....

My preferred body position is back then close to centre and l am wondering on the size small with the CS growth.... this may shift me towards the front of the bike..... l do run the bergtec 50mm riser bars that could still sit me up and back....

Thoughts of going to a medium Rogue may hinder partly for agility a bit too much bike amongst other betterments for bike handling....
 
Rogue, size Large Frame

Fork - fox38 with Smashpot and Fast SC5 Damper @180mm.
Shock - Fast Ride E coil shock @65mm stroke
Drivetrain - Shimano 12 speed HG+
Cranks - whatever it comes with
Pedals - Giant DH with long pins
Wheels - EX511 and DT 350 hubs
Tyres - High roller 3 or Butcher front, Specialized Cannibal or DHF on the rear dependant on weather.
Brakes - XT 4 pot with "Sinter" pads
Rotors - Galfer 220mm
Bars - Spank Spike 60mm rise, with DIY vibracore, 780mm wide
Grips - Lizardskin Northshore
Stem - Unknown, 55mm
Dropper - oneup 210mm
Saddle - WTB Volt

I've got all the parts ready, just waiting for a frame now.
 
Thanks for chiming in Mars 2, l have a Norco Range with same reach numbers as your Strive and l use a 40.0 stem. CS is 440.... what l have been wondering on with the Small Rogue is the effect on cs growth possibly to 450mm....

My preferred body position is back then close to centre and l am wondering on the size small with the CS growth.... this may shift me towards the front of the bike..... l do run the bergtec 50mm riser bars that could still sit me up and back....

Thoughts of going to a medium Rogue may hinder partly for agility a bit too much bike amongst other betterments for bike handling....
Sorry I'm not English what is CS? When it's your mother tong language abreviation seams obvious but when not you have no idea

I also run Burgtec 50m rise
 
Got it CS is Chain stay 🤣 My Canyon E-Strive is 445 so between V1 rogue 440 and V2 450mm I think 5 mm one way or the other will not change much for me. I use 145mm Pinnd crank that put me more centered.
 
Sorry I'm not English what is CS? When it's your mother tong language abreviation seams obvious but when not you have no idea

I also run Burgtec 50m rise
Your English is fine Mars 2.... correct its mine lol... even l don't understand what l say at the best of times guess its the great southern land slang here down under.... but yeah mate you got it CS chain stays... yes l agree those Burgtec 50mm rise bars make for a decent change 🤙
 
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