funny analogy.
in case it was lost on you, my point is that inverted MTB forks don't necessarily leak.
enjoy your video games
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in case it was lost on you, my point is that inverted MTB forks don't necessarily leak.
enjoy your video games
Well you should’ve started with that. Your point was not as obvious as you intended.
sethimus
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try to learn to read between the lines then?
Price, Weight, New Wheel Required, Leaks.
When the 38 or Zeb performs so well. It's a no for me.
When the 38 or Zeb performs so well. It's a no for me.
Jeff Kendall's Fox Podium. Another reason not to use inverted forks on an MTB. The exposed stanions are right in the firing line.
sethimus
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mine don’t look like that, mine are also not in some useless fashion color but hard anodized
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Shock, NOT. This was always going to happen. I only have to look at my 38 lower legs after 3 years of use.
RickBullotta
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That damage was actually from another bike rubbing up against it during transport.
It’s weird, Jeff Kendall-Weed was all over them when he reviewed them, without knowing how the forks were damaged, the picture is kind of useless.
It's also logic that your handlebars form a triangle with your wheel and forks when your bike is layed down on the ground. And the distance from the ground to the top of the triangle is far greater closer to the handlebars.
So if the bike does get laid down in a crash. It is far more likely the fork will make contact with objects like rocks, where the fork is closer to the ground. And that's at the bottom of the fork, further away from the handlebars.
I have black touch up paint to touch up my fork lowers, because they seem to get scratched at the bottom every now and then. But as it's my lowers. The outside is just cosmetic. But if my stanchions were there. It's a much more difficult prospect to fix.
But if you are not concerned about this, then enjoy the forks. All reports say they perform well. But it is logical that the stanchions will get scratched more often when they are at the bottom of the fork.
Done by a pedal of another bike. If it was a regular fork. Those scratches would be on the black lowers, and some touch-up paint would have fixed it.
Anyway. It's just something to consider with inverted forks. Having those stanchions so much lower, increases the chance of damage, to components of the fork that impact it's performance, and will need professional repair, if not replacement.
If you’ve ever done some bike parks and had pickup uplifts, it’s quite easy to get the upper stanchions damaged on ‘regular’ forks hooked over the tailgate or bits of the other bikes rubbing on them. I’ve come off my bike in the rocky peak district and damaged stanchions as well.
I think it’s called swings and roundabouts. MTBs are for riding, not for concours d’elegance shows, sometimes things will get damaged or broken, goes with the territory.
We are on the same page. But pointing out that inverted forks are more likely to have the stanchions scratched, is just useful information for people making decisions about fork purchases.
If they don't care. Then so be it. But when making decisions. Being informed, is better than not being informed.
I've never damaged an upper stanchion. I guess I have been lucky. But I get the touchup paint out on my lowers about 4 times a year.
I'm just presenting what happen to Jeff. Then relating it to my own experience. Scratched stanchions will damage your seals, just as it did to Jeff. Do with the information as you wish.
Well you are stating opinion like it’s fact.
Just because something makes sense in your head doesn’t mean it’s true.
I have years of experience with lower stanchion tubes that are not scratched.
They are no more prone to damage than any other bike component.
You are not informing anyone. You are telling them what you feel.
Which is fair enough, but posting a picture without any explanation of what actually happened to the fork isn’t all that helpful?
I don’t think that transport damage is a fair representation of how a fork will work in the real world so to speak.
I’ve used upside down forks for years in Mx racing, never had any issues, and I crashed a lot!
So Jeff took a file to his stanchions, and my lowers getting scratched, while my stanchions not, is a figment of my imagination. Got it.
I mean if that’s what you got out of my comment.So Jeff took a file to his stanchions, and my lowers getting scratched, while my stanchions not, is a figment of my imagination. Got it.
You are reaching. You want to inform people that lower stanchions are more vulnerable? Or Fox Podiums are no good cause this Jeff person rubbed his on some pedals?
My point is you are misleading people with your “facts” . You feel a certain way, that is not fact. Just opinion.
How about I leave this here, and you two can argue with Google. Because I'm not wasting any more time. Thanks for the fish ......
You feel like you wasted enough of everyone’s time? Thats fair I agree.How about I leave this here, and you two can argue with Google. Because I'm not wasting any more time. Thanks for the fish ......
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Now you’ll explain about how scratches are bad?
Cool! you gave us your reference material.
Mines years of riding. No internet needed
Do you own a podium? Just trolling?
How about I leave this here, and you two can argue with Google. Because I'm not wasting any more time. Thanks for the fish ......
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Aw mate, arguing via AI now rather than any actual experience? Got it…
Everything you buy is brilliant, everything you don’t buy is total S.
Jeff scratched his podium stanchions. This damaged the seals and caused them to leak. Here is a photo of the scratch and the oil residue that leaked out is at the bottom. What part do you not understand ?You feel like you wasted enough of everyone’s time? Thats fair I agree.
Now you’ll explain about how scratches are bad?
Cool! you gave us your reference material.
Mines years of riding. No internet needed
Do you own a podium? Just trolling?
None of it actually. Why are you posting about a fork that got scratched and is leaking? That happens all the time. To all sorts of shaft/oil/seal applications. The fact it’s a Podium is irrelevant.
You should’ve posted in the leaky shafts thread
Aw mate, arguing via AI now rather than any actual experience? Got it…
Everything you buy is brilliant, everything you don’t buy is total S.
James in this thread seems to have the same experience. Lowers get scratched.
James is talking about his 38s, he doesn’t own a set of podiums as far as I know.
If 38s came with the protective lower leg shields that podiums came with, they wouldn’t be as scratched either.
The fact it's an inverted fork is the relevant fact. Having vulnerable components lower on the bike exposes them to a higher risk of contact with ground objects and other objects like other bikes pedals. If we can't agree on this fact. Then yes. We will have to agree to disagree.
