Fox podium forks
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Funny the shields didn't help with the pedal.
And Google, Pinkbike and YouTube still disagrees with you.
Oh and BTW. You do actually understand how this AI works. It just reads articles on the subject and summaries it for you. Information comes from Fox Podium reviews.
You do know that Google and AI only knows what’s been posted on the internet right?
People who post about damage to stanchions on a podium fork is called a ‘self selecting sample’ and is the only data your search engines/AI has access to.
How is it accessing the data from those who own a podium and haven’t suffered any damage? How many podium forks are out there and how many have been damaged? This is data I’m confident you have zero access to.
It’s classic ‘give me your watch and I’ll tell you the time’ type stuff and it’s typical internet bollocks.
Just google damaged fork stanchions and tons of pictures show right side up forks with lots of damaged stanchions.
Years of riding dirt bikes and mountain bikes, I believe I’ve only scratched one stanchion. To me this is a non issue and won’t prevent me buying an upside down fork. The price and weight on the other hand is another question
Years of riding dirt bikes and mountain bikes, I believe I’ve only scratched one stanchion. To me this is a non issue and won’t prevent me buying an upside down fork. The price and weight on the other hand is another question
Price……sucks bad yupJust google damaged fork stanchions and tons of pictures show right side up forks with lots of damaged stanchions.
Years of riding dirt bikes and mountain bikes, I believe I’ve only scratched one stanchion. To me this is a non issue and won’t prevent me buying an upside down fork. The price and weight on the other hand is another question
no way around this factWeight… on a full power Ebiz with the proper riding technique adjustments, it’s absolutely not noticeable, and more than makes up for it by holding lines so well in berms, and small-med bump absorption.
nick.ccfab
New Member
Ended up sending the podiums to Fox under warranty, 1 week turnaround and another 80 miles with no issues. I love these forks, hopefully they figure something out.
Zed. (Justin is short)
Well-known member
firstly, I've not read all this thread but....
interesting damage there, not trail / rock impact but repeated abrasion.
maybe people should be asking what abuse the owner did to cause this?
interesting damage there, not trail / rock impact but repeated abrasion.
maybe people should be asking what abuse the owner did to cause this?
sethimus
😠 Donald Duck 😠
and? one intend leg is 75eur, fucking up your fox 38 stanchions is like 400$+ for a new csu...
I have 2 forks I switch between on my Crestline to get a different feel. Fox 40 w coil spring and Avalanche hybrid coil spring Fox 38. Does the Podium feel better than 40?Price……sucks bad yup
Weight… on a full power Ebiz with the proper riding technique adjustments, it’s absolutely not noticeable, and more than makes up for it by holding lines so well in berms, and small-med bump absorption.
Yes. You get initial fork movement with about a pound of pressure, vs 6-8 with a 38. I don’t own a 40.
Podium is way better than the 38 however it does cost a heckova lot of money.
Highland Wheels
Well-known member
Gotta have all the best gear.
Then someone absolutely destroys you on basic spec stuff
I don’t doubt it is better, otherwise Fox wouldn’t have spent millions developing it and releasing it. I guess my point is who out there is really at a level of riding that it makes even the slightest difference? World Cup downhill guys/gals use either this new fork or the old 30/40 and win either way.
Believe me, I understand. Participated in many races where some guys show up with all the good bling. I quickly realized they are WAY better than me.Gotta have all the best gear.
Then someone absolutely destroys you on basic spec stuff
Ok
you obviously will troll until you get attentionIt’s not about riding at a World Cup speed. That’s a piss poor argument, formed while staring at YouTube videos. It’s about having a more comfortable ride, a more predictable cornering experience. It’s about owning a better fork.
I try not to feed trolls. I’m sure you guys are super wicked fast. Sponsored and everything.
I ride for me, I push myself hard.
I can afford nice things. Hence I put a SICK ass fork on my ride. Doesn’t suck that’s for sure. Definitely doesn’t slow me down.
I have zero need to prove anything to some keyboard heros like yourselves.
I fed you trolls. I will not reach under the bridge again.
Yes, dirt bikes are amazingly durable. There is a big difference between dirt bikes with steel stanchions and mtb forks with aluminum stanchions (hard anodized or Kashima-coated). For dirt bikes the upside down forks have been the standard since the early 1990's and I never had an issue with damage mainly because of the hardness of the steel. Worse case would be polishing out scratches. Alloy / aluminum would be easy to damage and difficult to repair.
LOL, I’m retired and can afford any bike I want so whats the difference? Just asking a simple question. You say it’s worth it and I’m good with that. I know I’m dealing with younger people so just trying to get an understanding of the thought process. You are reading WAY more into my comments, sorry.Ok
It’s not about riding at a World Cup speed. That’s a piss poor argument, formed while staring at YouTube videos. It’s about having a more comfortable ride, a more predictable cornering experience. It’s about owning a better fork.
I try not to feed trolls. I’m sure you guys are super wicked fast. Sponsored and everything.
I ride for me, I push myself hard.
I can afford nice things. Hence I put a SICK ass fork on my ride. Doesn’t suck that’s for sure. Definitely doesn’t slow me down.
I have zero need to prove anything to some keyboard heros like yourselves.
I fed you trolls. I will not reach under the bridge again.
sethimus
😠 Donald Duck 😠
they (intend) work better under braking. a lot. now combine them with better brakes (intend). dream combo. but yes, ride mediocre products instead. save money. it’s not worth it. or is it? you‘ll never know, lol.
Williamson James
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I have been on the Podiums for a bit now and they ride really nice. Super smooth and stiff when pushed hard. I had to retighten a few bolts early on and one seal wept a little oil but nothing major. They are a bit heavier than Fox 38s but still great value if you can grab them cheaper in Australia. I would go for it honestly.
One of the reasons an inverted fork performs better, is because it reduces the unsprung mass. The stanchions connected to the wheels are lighter than a solid lower. So there is less inertia damping the motion of the fork. This will give much better small bump sensitivity.
I have had moto-cross bikes since I was 6yo. I am 60yo now. Inverted forks with steel stanchions are a completely different beast to the alloy ones with coatings. The steel ones are much tougher. They are also easy to repair minor scratches, as you are not damaging the coating that the alloy ones have.
Due to weight criteria. Steel stanchioned forks really aren't possible on a high spec EMTB. And is why inverted forks were not used. Fox has chosen to go down this path. Clearly I cannot express an opinion on running inverted alloy stachions, or the vunerability of them compared with a solid lower, as those who have purchased them, are taking it personally, and that is fair enough.
I guess we just need to wait and see how these inverted forks mature.
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Rockhopper70
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Wait what, a “solid lower“. Er, they aren’t solid, otherwise the stanchion would have nowhere to go! I presume you mean wall thickness? Do you have the respective weights of the two types of stanchions to confirm this?
Also, you need to consider if you are hard charging enough to warrant such a fork, then your wheel and tyre is likely to be heavier duty, increasing the mass.
I think he just meant that the Podium stanchions are lighter than the lowers on a standard fork, with unsprung weight benefits.
I don’t get the problem people have with the fork to be honest, or even the price, as you say it’s a performance part for hard charging riders in search of a particular benefit or margin. Like everything, it will be a compromise somewhere down the line, but it’s doing things that other forks don’t do.
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Cost can be offset (no trolls not saved) by selling the take off fork. In my case the 38 sold for 500$ so that helped.
There’s a Fox hate bandwagon. I’m not here to defend Fox. If my fork sucked I’d be pissed !!!
Combine this hate train with tons of YouTube research. You get the exact opinions that live around here somewhere
I will add there are a few very good options out there, I think this means buyers are very happy to express how much they love their non-Fox suspension choices, they do this of course by trolling around.
This hobby is expensive, and it hurts. Thats a lot of its charm
Cost can be offset (no trolls not saved) by selling the take off fork. In my case the 38 sold for 500$ so that helped.
There’s a Fox hate bandwagon. I’m not here to defend Fox. If my fork sucked I’d be pissed !!!
Combine this hate train with tons of YouTube research. You get the exact opinions that live around here somewhere
I will add there are a few very good options out there, I think this means buyers are very happy to express how much they love their non-Fox suspension choices, they do this of course by trolling around.
This hobby is expensive, and it hurts. Thats a lot of its charm
I think they look great, I’d love a set even if I wouldn’t push them anywhere near there capabilities, same as for most of my bikes and kit to be fair! I am but a weekend warrior!
There are too many people telling others that they’ve purchased the wrong bike/fork/thing, but that’s tribalism!
I should have also said, several upside down MTB forks: Mountain Cycle upside down(terrible), Marz Shiver, Maverick DUC & Manitou Dorado. No problems with stanchions. Personally, to me if you get scratched stanchions, just bad luck.
To another person, yes I can tell a huge difference in performance between the 38 & 40. When the Podiums go on sale or I find a used one, I’ll buy it. Not worried at all about stanchion.
Yes, Solid as in strong. Stronger because it's all one piece, with a bridge, and yes, thicker walled. I called it solid. Sorry if that caused confusion.
Well. The Fox 36s took someone punishment today. Luckily I've ride wrapped the lowers, and I have an extra roll of ride wrap. Some touch paint and 10 mins work, and the fork is like new again. I wonder how a Podium would have fared ?
Posted 7 years ago on reddit. But cool story, bro ......
