2026 Giant Reign E+ Megathread

The point here is that when you ride these super high-power motors, they draw a huge amount of current from the battery, ers (Amflow) are requesting lower torque and power settings because of the motor’s high energy consumption.
For those looking for super-long rides, they will need to use an extender (840Wh) or a second battery. And that’s something that DJI can’t offer: DJI is 800Wh/36V fixed setup...no extender and no second battery option. This new Reign provides more options at that point
Not disagreeing that 48v is not better it will be better on the battery pack at the start and end especially where the current one discharges faster, but 560 and 90 Nm is still low compared to everything out there and I’m not talking amlow, you have cube, specialised Nukeproof all 100 or so and 800 or more battery 🤷‍♂️ We will see in a couple of days what giant say but it not what I need so it may be a specialised for me which is a shame I was really excited forte this
 
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Not disagreeing that 48v is not better it will be better on the battery pack at the start and end especially where the current one discharges faster, but 560 and 90 Nm is still low compared to everything out there and I’m not talking amlow, you have cube, specialised Nukeproof all 100 or so and 800 or more battery 🤷‍♂️ We will see in a couple of days what giant say but it not what I need so it may be a specialised for me which is a shame I was really excited forte this
You do realise the Giant also has 800W peak? So it actually exceeds both the Bosch and Specialized motors in that regard. Torque isn't the only performance measurement of a motor. I do agree that a 560wh battery is a bit skimpy however.
 
It all depends where(at what cadence) in the power band you have that torque avaliable.
If comparing electric motors to car engines you can say a higer voltage ebike motor is just like a higher displacement car engine.

What does that mean, higer displacement usually has the torque spread out over a wider rpm range, it's a bit different but comparable for the electric motor, there is also the factor of internal gearing setup and your own cadence(rpm) that affect the end result on an ebike.

Overall a 48V system motor usually has a smoother, calmer feel in operation, someone has tried the Levo gen 4 motor or a different 48V system they will know what I mean.
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It all depends where(at what cadence) in the power band you have that torque avaliable.
If comparing electric motors to car engines you can say a higer voltage ebike motor is just like a higher displacement car engine.

What does that mean, higer displacement usually has the torque spread out over a wider rpm range, it's a bit different but comparable for the electric motor, there is also the factor of internal gearing setup and your own cadence(rpm) that affect the end result on an ebike.

Overall a 48V system motor usually has a smoother, calmer feel in operation, someone has tried the Levo gen 4 motor or a different 48V system they will know what I mean.
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Have ridden the new levo & both the new bosch CX & CX-R motors. It's all much of a much if you ask me. Regular bosch motor felt the best to me. Any differences between 36 & 48V seem rather negligible tbh.
 
Not disagreeing that 48v is not better it will be better on the battery pack at the start and end especially where the current one discharges faster, but 560 and 90 Nm is still low compared to everything out there and I’m not talking amlow, you have cube, specialised Nukeproof all 100 or so and 800 or more battery 🤷‍♂️ We will see in a couple of days what giant say but it not what I need so it may be a specialised for me which is a shame I was really excited forte this
I fully understand, there are more powerful motors and bigger batteries, and each person must pick the option that best fits their needs.
In my opinion, the market is going crazy about numbers. Not so long ago, an 80Nm motor and a 600Wh battery were considered pretty good, but now things move fast, and a 90Nm / 800Wh setup seems low for some people (but does an extra 10Nm really make any noticeable difference?).
As I said, 48V performance is very important when demanding high power. So maybe it’s more important to have a 90/800 system in a capable motor that can actually deliver that power consistently, rather than having more power that only lasts a short time because it’s a 36V system.🤷‍♂️
 
It all depends where(at what cadence) in the power band you have that torque avaliable.
If comparing electric motors to car engines you can say a higer voltage ebike motor is just like a higher displacement car engine.

What does that mean, higer displacement usually has the torque spread out over a wider rpm range, it's a bit different but comparable for the electric motor, although there is the factor of internal gearing setup and your own cadence(rpm) that affect the end result on an ebike.

Overall a 48V system motor usually has a smoother, calmer feel in operation, if someone has tried the Levo gen 4 motor or a different 48V they will know what I mean.
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Have ridden the new levo & both the new bosch CX & CX-R motors. It's all much of a much if you ask me. Regular bosch motor felt the best to me. Any differences between 36 & 48V seem rather negligible tbh.
I have ridden all you say also, but to be honest I could feel a significant difference in smoothness between a 48V system and a 36V system I guess my senses are more refined as most people's senses are.
 
It all depends where(at what cadence) in the power band you have that torque avaliable.
If comparing electric motors to car engines you can say a higer voltage ebike motor is just like a higher displacement car engine.

What does that mean, higer displacement usually has the torque spread out over a wider rpm range, it's a bit different but comparable for the electric motor, although there is the factor of internal gearing setup and your own cadence(rpm) that affect the end result on an ebike.
That's totally correct. So many people care about motor power numbers, but then they pedal at a very low cadence, where the motor delivers only about two-thirds of the power, if they're lucky.
Same with the torque, depending of the cadence it will deliver more torque or less...With 48V, you can get more effective torque at low cadence, since the current demand for the same power output will be lower.
 
Have ridden the new levo & both the new bosch CX & CX-R motors. It's all much of a much if you ask me. Regular bosch motor felt the best to me. Any differences between 36 & 48V seem rather negligible tbh.
Was that the S-Works or the standard Levo out of curiosity ? Rode a Bosch the other day and it did feel nice but most of the Bosch bikes fall short for me for one reason or another ☹️
 
Was that the S-Works or the standard Levo out of curiosity ? Rode a Bosch the other day and it did feel nice but most of the Bosch bikes fall short for me for one reason or another ☹️
Standard levo in stock settings. Out of the box the motor has more of a natural feeling, but you can adjust the settings to make it more similar to the bosch.

The Levo itself was awesome to ride, the geo and suspension were spot on for me. If they weren't so expensive where I am, I would consider one.
 
Standard levo in stock settings. Out of the box the motor has more of a natural feeling, but you can adjust the settings to make it more similar to the bosch.

The Levo itself was awesome to ride, the geo and suspension were spot on for me. If they weren't so expensive where I am, I would consider one.
It’s top of my list currently friend has an s-works which I have ridden, but I’m looking at a base Ali bike and upgrading suspension and brakes I want a coil rear anyway 🤔
 
“Someone got ahead of me and already has it on their website.”

It's been on that website for 5 days 😂
 
I'm constantly changing my mind about this new bike. Part of me thinks that it would suit my usage but if we compare the new E+0 to something like the Unno Myth you could have a similar travel bike, both carbon, probably similar weight (maybe the Myth is a little lighter) but the Myth comes with the DJI system with all it's advantages. Big battery, big power and all the clever stuff that DJI is adding to it's software. Even if the new Giant battery system is more efficient it's still unlikely to match or better an 800wh battery so the only potential real world advantage would be weight saving but that doesn't seem to be all that significant either.
I'm thinking I'll stick with my current Reign for now and see what happens in the next year.
 
I'm constantly changing my mind about this new bike. Part of me thinks that it would suit my usage but if we compare the new E+0 to something like the Unno Myth you could have a similar travel bike, both carbon, probably similar weight (maybe the Myth is a little lighter) but the Myth comes with the DJI system with all it's advantages. Big battery, big power and all the clever stuff that DJI is adding to it's software. Even if the new Giant battery system is more efficient it's still unlikely to match or better an 800wh battery so the only potential real world advantage would be weight saving but that doesn't seem to be all that significant either.
I'm thinking I'll stick with my current Reign for now and see what happens in the next year.
Firstly, dji is a first gen system with first gen problems. Speed sensors, controllers and motors have all had issues. The motor also develops a rattle after miles have been done on it. They all get this issue. I'm sure dji will be good in the next Gen. That's if dji doesn't get completely banned from Western countries which has started to happen (china etc etc). The myth os a nice looking bike. Very expensive mind. The front end is extremely high and takes a very committed rider to make the most of it. Plus seat post insertion is terrible. Had the seat up my ass on step descents. Put me right off off it. Current Gen reign was good, enjoyed mine. Put over 3000 miles on it. But, it was a heavy beast. A plow more than a playful bike. Everything seeing on the new one address that. Time will tell. I have a demo lined up once the bike arrives. See how it feels and how good this new battery tech is.
 
The problem with this new Reign E+ is that it is in a no man's land : trying to be an SL type bike in a full fat frame.

No matter how efficient the new 48V system is, the 560WH will be a very hard sell with such packaging.

Just give it the 840wh/100NM and a lot of people will get over the down tube just like Bosch 800wh bikes.

I struggle to understand how Giant went from selling thousands of full fat Trance E+ or Reign E+ to suddently trying to force 400WH/560WH carbon only eMTBs when the majority of the demand is still in the full fat segment. They will struggle to do repeat sales on their existing pool of owners/fanbase.

I'll wait on the official release notes to forge my final opinion on this bike, but this is a huge let down for me from what I can see.
 
Firstly, dji is a first gen system with first gen problems. Speed sensors, controllers and motors have all had issues. The motor also develops a rattle after miles have been done on it. They all get this issue. I'm sure dji will be good in the next Gen. That's if dji doesn't get completely banned from Western countries which has started to happen (china etc etc). The myth os a nice looking bike. Very expensive mind. The front end is extremely high and takes a very committed rider to make the most of it. Plus seat post insertion is terrible. Had the seat up my ass on step descents. Put me right off off it. Current Gen reign was good, enjoyed mine. Put over 3000 miles on it. But, it was a heavy beast. A plow more than a playful bike. Everything seeing on the new one address that. Time will tell. I have a demo lined up once the bike arrives. See how it feels and how good this new battery tech is.
Yeah, I like my Reign but share your thoughts about it being a plow. We'll see how the new Reign does when people actually start riding it but it's not filling me with enthusiasm at the moment tbh.
I feel that Giant bikes are a bit like Toyota cars, steady, reliable, very competent but not particularly exciting. I have an Orbea Rallon as my non eeb trail bike and it sets my pants on fire every time I ride it. The Reign just feels very competent but not particularly thrilling to ride (downhill particularly). I guess I'm searching for that flair that the Orbea has but with the reliability of the Giant in my next ebike. It probably doesn't exist tbh but it's a first world problem to have, my Reign does what I need it to do (for now at least).
 
Bike shop have confirmed its a 560Wh only it does come as standard with a 280Wh range extender bike is 24kg with it fitted, no dates as yet on extra batteries or a larger battery which means its probably not the bike for me
as i struggle with my 625 when used as a second battery, but I know my riding style is moderately uncommon so suspect its going to be a cracking bike for those that can use a smaller battery bike and it sounds like in the UK at least it will come with 5 year motor/battery warrantee.
 
Bike shop have confirmed its a 560Wh only it does come as standard with a 280Wh range extender bike is 24kg with it fitted, no dates as yet on extra batteries or a larger battery which means its probably not the bike for me
as i struggle with my 625 when used as a second battery, but I know my riding style is moderately uncommon so suspect its going to be a cracking bike for those that can use a smaller battery bike and it sounds like in the UK at least it will come with 5 year motor/battery warrantee.
I think it's only the E+0 that comes with the range extender in the box, you have to shell out the extra for it with the lower models.
24kgs isn't that great is it? That's not a huge amount lighter than the existing bike with a big battery and I'm guessing that's for the top of the range model with the horrible carbon stem/bar thing. I suppose it depends on whether this new 48v system is a big jump forwards in terms of efficiency. If the 840wh total of the new bike offers no significant gains over the existing 800wh battery then the weight savings of the carbon frame seems to have been squandered for no real advantage. That five year motor and battery warranty is potentially a big deal though.
Whatever, I'm keen to see what people say when they actually ride the new bike.
 
I think it's only the E+0 that comes with the range extender in the box, you have to shell out the extra for it with the lower models.
24kgs isn't that great is it? That's not a huge amount lighter than the existing bike with a big battery and I'm guessing that's for the top of the range model with the horrible carbon stem/bar thing. I suppose it depends on whether this new 48v system is a big jump forwards in terms of efficiency. If the 840wh total of the new bike offers no significant gains over the existing 800wh battery then the weight savings of the carbon frame seems to have been squandered for no real advantage. That five year motor and battery warranty is potentially a big deal though.
Whatever, I'm keen to see what people say when they actually ride the new bike.
They are saying the 48v is 7-10% more efficient given I ride at high power I’ll take that as 7% which is less then my 625 which is my back up battery and I keep running that to flat :(.

I’m now erring to the Alloy Levo not too much weight save over my current Reigh but more capable and I can get it with spare battery for less than the new base Reign
 
I've just weighed my existing bike for some sort of comparison. It's a Reign E+1, size XL with a coil shock, Schwalbe Shredda radials and includes mudguards front and rear, Sendhit hand guards, an Exposure light, empty water bottle etc (so not stripped down at all) and with the 625wh battery in (I do have an 800wh battery as well but don't often use it).
Weight is 27.8kgs! No wonder it feels like a plough! 🙄
Obviously I could shed quite a bit off that if I wanted to but it's interesting to compare real world weight with the projected weight of the new bike.
 
I've just weighed my existing bike for some sort of comparison. It's a Reign E+1, size XL with a coil shock, Schwalbe Shredda radials and includes mudguards front and rear, Sendhit hand guards, an Exposure light, empty water bottle etc (so not stripped down at all) and with the 625wh battery in (I do have an 800wh battery as well but don't often use it).
Weight is 27.8kgs! No wonder it feels like a plough! 🙄
Obviously I could shed quite a bit off that if I wanted to but it's interesting to compare real world weight with the projected weight of the new bike.
Mines the same in medium when I have the 800 in admittedly the wheels and tyres are 6kg of that lol
 
The problem with this new Reign E+ is that it is in a no man's land : trying to be an SL type bike in a full fat frame.

No matter how efficient the new 48V system is, the 560WH will be a very hard sell with such packaging.

Just give it the 840wh/100NM and a lot of people will get over the down tube just like Bosch 800wh bikes.

I struggle to understand how Giant went from selling thousands of full fat Trance E+ or Reign E+ to suddently trying to force 400WH/560WH carbon only eMTBs when the majority of the demand is still in the full fat segment. They will struggle to do repeat sales on their existing pool of owners/fanbase.

I'll wait on the official release notes to forge my final opinion on this bike, but this is a huge let down for me from what I can see.
Well the vala only has 600wh, so does the bullet, the new cube one77 is 600wh. Everyone is doing it. 600wh with an optional extender. That's suits the vast majority of people's needs. As can be told for how many sell. If you absolutely need 800wh you are in the minority. Plus with the extender the giant for instance will be more like 900wh plus equivalent. So what you say doesn't make sense.
 
They are saying the 48v is 7-10% more efficient given I ride at high power I’ll take that as 7% which is less then my 625 which is my back up battery and I keep running that to flat :(.

I’m now erring to the Alloy Levo not too much weight save over my current Reigh but more capable and I can get it with spare battery for less than the new base Reign
Who is saying 7-10? Or just hear say?
 
It's tricky to see which way the market will go. I thought that a lot of folks were now thinking that light weight was more valuable than massive batteries and ever more powerful motors but the comments on here (not least from Rob who must have more insight than most of us do) indicate that's not necessarily the case.
Personally, I'd be more interested in say a DJI with less power and a smaller battery. If they can make the current Amflow that light with the big battery and huge power, imagine how light a detuned version (a la Orbea Rise) could be.
I'd love to ride a Rise LT for a couple of months and see whether I actually miss the power and range of my current full fat eeb but although I'm curious, I'm not yet curious enough to spend my money.
 
I thought that a lot of folks were now thinking that light weight was more valuable than massive batteries and ever more powerful motors but the comments on here (not least from Rob who must have more insight than most of us do) indicate that's not necessarily the case.
Well its possible now to have 800wh batteries and big power motors with long travel at 21 point something KG (Unno Mith, enduro bike), which is 1kg or so less than the Giant, which has a much smaller, 560wh battery, and less powerful motor.

Or even lighter, with 19KG with 800wh and 150 travel (Amflow trail bike).

The whole light bike movement was built on compromise: less power, smaller batteries with lighter weight, all in the name of better agility (and better looks).

Which all made sense a few of years ago when full power bikes were getting bulky, heavier and unwieldy.

But with new innovations like the DJI system, that trade off doesn't really make sense anymore. Why settle for 400wh and 60Nm when you can have 800wh and 1000w? The weight penalty for this is a couple of KG at most (ironically, Jackson Goldstone and other DH elite riders are adding upto 2 kg to add balast to DH bikes for extra stability).

Basically its now possible to have your cake and eat it. The trade offs for less power, lower weight dont seem worth it for many riders.

This is not a diss at Giant (I really like their bikes) or a pump for DJI bikes, its just how I see the market evolving.
 
Well its possible now to have 800wh batteries and big power motors with long travel at 21 point something KG (Unno Mith, enduro bike), which is 1kg or so less than the Giant, which has a much smaller, 560wh battery, and less powerful motor.

Or even lighter, with 19KG with 800wh and 150 travel (Amflow trail bike).

The whole light bike movement was built on compromise: less power, smaller batteries with lighter weight, all in the name of better agility (and better looks).

Which all made sense a few of years ago when full power bikes were getting bulky, heavier and unwieldy.

But with new innovations like the DJI system, that trade off doesn't really make sense anymore. Why settle for 400wh and 60Nm when you can have 800wh and 1000w? The weight penalty for this is a couple of KG at most (ironically, Jackson Goldstone and other DH elite riders are adding upto 2 kg to add balast to DH bikes for extra stability).

Basically its now possible to have your cake and eat it. The trade offs for less power, lower weight dont seem worth it for many riders.

This is not a diss at Giant (I really like their bikes) or a pump for DJI bikes, its just how I see the market evolving.
Your missing my point above. Santa Cruz, sube, Merida, giant and more are taking the same route. Full power and 600wh. It's been cause this is what most people want. Give them the option to go more with an extender etc. people are buying those bikes like crazy. Bikes with a 800wh battery in it to start is overkill for most people. Hence giant made this call. From a sales perspective, it makes perfect sense.
 
You’re missing my point above. Santa Cruz, sube, Merida, giant and more are taking the same route. Full power and 600wh. It's been cause this is what most people want.
I disagree.

Personally I believe Santa Cruz went 600wh purely for aesthetic reasons.
 
Bikes with a 800wh battery in it to start is overkill for most people. Hence giant made this call. From a sales perspective, it makes perfect sense.
I can tell you that every brand I speak with sells far more 800wh bike if they have an option to spec it with the bigger battery.
 
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