jbv
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i would never run this bike in the low setting, but would consider changing the air spring to 180. unfortunately its prohibitively expensive on the 38.
Reign E+ 2022
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Hi Rob, just back from LBS with new Reign E+2, 342mm flip chip on “High" everything stock no modifications.
Interesting. I’m gonna have to measure another time to make 100% sure!
I did get help from my daughter to take the picture, I held bike as level as I could at balance point and got pic as in line with the BB as possible (you can see through to the other site).
jbv
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Rob, what do you think the largest tire size could fit at the rear? don't say 27.5!
Hi guys,
new to the forum, current owner of a Haibike Allmtn 3 and now I'm seriously considering getting the new Reign.
But I'm also thinking about a Trek Rail. I know all about the differences on paper (specs, geo, etc), but a hands-on experience is more valuable.
Question to @Rob Rides EMTB :
Having ridden both, what made you choose the Rail as your personal bike ?
new to the forum, current owner of a Haibike Allmtn 3 and now I'm seriously considering getting the new Reign.
But I'm also thinking about a Trek Rail. I know all about the differences on paper (specs, geo, etc), but a hands-on experience is more valuable.
Question to @Rob Rides EMTB :
Having ridden both, what made you choose the Rail as your personal bike ?
Check the pressure in the damper. And to be sure check the stroke of the damper. Maybe your bike "eaten" 2 or 3 mm of the stroke of the shock. Size of tires won't matter so much. We are all pretty much on the same gums. I'll check my bike in like 30 minutes in both low and high. With a good metal ruler.
Rob spends a lot of time answering bike questions on the Forum, Youtube, Instagram, Strava.
He generally chooses his bikes based on key presses for efficiency. "Trek" and "Rail" are about as short as you can get.
I’ll check it out
. Last ride was at a bike park and I definitely added more air to the shock and ran less sag. But will be interested to check why mine is measuring this low!
Here’s another pic (taken at the same time I measured but just wanted to check it was accurate). Camera height at the exact height of BB - can see through the BB.
Bike leant up against wall, straight as possible, at balance point.
Giant Reign E1, flip chip in HIGH:
Bike leant up against wall, straight as possible, at balance point.
Giant Reign E1, flip chip in HIGH:
Won't these be dependent on how you guys have your sag's set ? i.e. there is a degree of natural sag without the rider + you need to confirm which bikes with which shocks/forks.
from what I can see pretty much identical to mine
These are unweighted (zero sag) so should be like for like
Even on different bikes with different shocks/forks ?
We are all measuring the same bikes, same geometry
(I’m assuming we are all measuring the 2022 Reign with Fox fork / shock?!Well I have the E1. Same as Rob. Maybe you are on to something. E2 has RS if I remember correct.
There may be small variations between RS / Fox and even small percentage variations of the same components due to tolerances.
But so far 2 of us with the E1 have BB’s at sub 330mm in the HIGH position!
Either way, a manufacturer won’t even give different geo charts for these minor differences.
I think the fox generally sits slightly higher than the RS at "rest", so it's not that. Glad to be proved wrong.
You are using foldable measure. By design most of them will show 2mm less because the tip is moving. Check it out.
Also, you said you daughter made the measurements.There may be small variations between RS / Fox and even small percentage variations of the same components due to tolerances.
But so far 2 of us with the E1 have BB’s at sub 330mm
Either way, a manufacturer won’t even give different geo charts for these minor differences.
As we all know any female making a measurement will find it considerably smaller than any man making the same measurement ..
OK, I'll stop trolling now.
Yah I know but it was what I had on hand. Gives a decent indication +/- 3mm.
edit: could have used my measuring laser but didn’t think of that.
In theory the tip moves to accommodate a push or a pull measurement, so it still should be pretty close.
Rob is releasing a review next week so guessing he will talk about range.
I measured many times, moved the bike around trying to get as upright as possible and took 5-6 pictures with tape measure and steel ruler. I always come to similar value +/- 342mm. Is it possible that the Shock “settles in" a little after some riding? Mine is fresh out of the box, not ridden even to bring it here. The E+2 has Zeb up front but Fox DPX2 in the back.
Ahh, the Zeb has a +3mm higher Axle to crown measurement than the Fox, so this will count for some difference, and possibly the DPX 2 will measure slightly different too like @Zimmerframe mentioned, although these minor differences I wouldn't have thought would have had such a large impact on the BB height.
Either way, interesting to have a geek out over BB heights LOL, what an amazing Saturday night we all live!!
The Yamaha motors are normally fairly frugal on their power delivery. I think most people seem to be achieving average/expected range, but some people have reported that the motor feels "tight" for 300-500km's (depending how you use it) and then can free up. Others have just found it not that efficient, this could be that some motors have an intrinsic fault or just that this motor is more susceptible to different riding styles.
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