These guys are selling almost every bit of Levo, so I suppose it's just a matter of time
SPECIALIZED LEVO FSR TURBO CONNECT UNIT KIT
SPECIALIZED LEVO FSR TURBO CONNECT UNIT KIT
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Levo Gen 3 Specialized Gen 3 2022 Levo Megathread!
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These guys are selling almost every bit of Levo, so I suppose it's just a matter of time
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Austin Thomas
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Collection Day... and its first charge...
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Here’s my take:
- 22KG - class leading weight despite Fox 38 / X2 shock
- 700Wh battery - 10% more than Bosch / Shimano etc
- Cleanest integration on the market
- Smoothest motor with 90Nm
- Quietest motor both up and down
- 64.5 head angle 442 chainstay
- Progressive geometry
- Very very good ride
- Decent leverage curve and frame
- Mullet
- Adjustable Geometry, headset cup and Chainstay
- Bright, legible and useful display, neatly integrated
- 6 sizes with reach upto 532mm
- Decent app with usable features
- Over the air updates
- Rapid development from app team - consistently being update
- Good support network (shop dependent) and active support from @Specialized Rider Care on places like this forum
yes there are bikes with similar geo. I really like my Trek Rail, but there is no app, the display is crap, the integration isn’t the best, the motor rattles on descents etc etc.
Specialized are going for the total package. And the price reflects that.
Negatives - the price. Is it worth all the cash? That’s for the buyer to decide.
I guess after all that comments it is clear that many of the gen2 owners are not going to upgrade as the change is not really that big. Not like gen2 was. People were buying Spesh as it was really revolutionary and the extra price tag was worth it. New gen brings nothing new to motor, batt, weight, power etc. It is not bad, just not so much better than competition. I've owned 7 Spesh bikes, was upgrading every new gen but this time I'll skip. My Kenevo rides great and in some way I feel happy that it is not going to be outdated any time soon. But let's go back to gen3. I am really interested in the batt motor housing durability. I crashed that parts several times, is it any better now?
Pivot
E*POWAH Master
Carbon frame is all the rage and I understand the appeal, however, is the new Levo also coming in alu-alloy?
For an ordinary rider — rather than a sponsored competitor — isn’t it wiser and safer to get an alu-alloy frame?
Carbon is very cool, but if you abuse it might fracture and you will not know it, until one day it snaps into a dozen of sharp blades.
Pro/sponsored riders fall less and need every ounce to win. The better riders get a new frame every season. So, they might never see the carbon failure.
However, many of us enthusiasts that fall now and then and keep bikes for few seasons, are more at risk of fracturing the carbon frame and the fractures are very hard to see on a carbon finish. And if you buy it painted glossy pink, you can’t enjoy the carbon texture anyway.
Does anybody know how to set a poll?
Would be good to see what you lust for vs what would you actually buy.
I for one, admire the carbon, but for my own use I will buy alu-alloy bike frame.
For an ordinary rider — rather than a sponsored competitor — isn’t it wiser and safer to get an alu-alloy frame?
Carbon is very cool, but if you abuse it might fracture and you will not know it, until one day it snaps into a dozen of sharp blades.
Pro/sponsored riders fall less and need every ounce to win. The better riders get a new frame every season. So, they might never see the carbon failure.
However, many of us enthusiasts that fall now and then and keep bikes for few seasons, are more at risk of fracturing the carbon frame and the fractures are very hard to see on a carbon finish. And if you buy it painted glossy pink, you can’t enjoy the carbon texture anyway.
Does anybody know how to set a poll?
Would be good to see what you lust for vs what would you actually buy.
I for one, admire the carbon, but for my own use I will buy alu-alloy bike frame.
I was wondering the same. They've invested a lot in all new new frame sizes in carbon. Is this because the whole range will be carbon, or do they just know from previous sales/enquiries that they can re-coup the mould investments on the carbon only models enough to expand the sizes offered.
If you did everything in carbon, your unit cost comes down and you don't have to invest in making the Aluminium frames and different stock/inventory/production lines.
We seem to have seen quite a few bikes in carbon only options lately.
With an air shock maybe 4-5mm but a coil doesn’t compress all the way like an air shock does, so you’re not going to see a huge gain in travel by over stroking with a coil.
The TTX is just a good shock and the reliability has improved. The Cane Creek DB Kitsuma is a better shock that uses the same Öhlins tech and is much easier to tune.
If you want 158mm with the stock shock length the cascade components linkage is just the ticket, but don’t use it with an overstroked air shock on a S-Works
Doing either of these things will void the warranty
HeatproofGenie
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Code RS brakes have the swing link, just not the pad contact dial. They are great brakes really and have all of the stopping power of Code RSC. Code R is slightly less powerful without the swing link.
I have the Code RS on my '21 Evo and they are just as good as RSCs I have on other bikes.
HeatproofGenie
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That Expert spec looks quite good. Hopefully they do a full X01 drivetrain and not the usual shenanigans of X01 shifter and rear mech but GX cassette and chain. Not as big of a deal on emtb but the GX cassette is quite a lot heavier and that's unsprung weight.
I upgraded the GX cassette and chain on my '21 Evo Expert to X01 and would gladly pay the $100 more or so it would take to make it a full x01 drivetrain from the factory. I'd likely also upgrade the wheels on Expert but after that it wouldn't need much. Maybe a longer dropper. Cockpit is user preference.
miPbiP
E*POWAH Master
enjoy your gen 3s folks.
my gen 2 has 2 years + warranty so I'll stick with it.
one gen 3 feature I don't like is the screen. simplicity of display (which I turn to stealth mode) is one reason I bought the Levo over competitors at the time. less is more.
my gen 2 has 2 years + warranty so I'll stick with it.
one gen 3 feature I don't like is the screen. simplicity of display (which I turn to stealth mode) is one reason I bought the Levo over competitors at the time. less is more.
Billyc
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I think we can get one thing said, ITS A LOT OF MONEY!! There, I said it for everyone!
But the bike is sick.
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Bike relevant information.
Size Guide :
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Specs :
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Info :
BB Height Low , Chainstay 447, BB Height 342-348 (size dependant/headset cup dependant)
BB Height High , Chainstay 441, BB Height 349-354 (size dependant/headset cup dependant)
Max Seat post insertion S1-210, S2-220, S3-240, S4-255, S5-275, S6-295
Seat Tube 34.9mm shimmed to 30.9.
Rear shock Custom Float X2
Part number: 979-63-010
Short ID: D9MP
Description: 2021, FLOAT X2, F-S, K, 2pos-Adj, Specialized, Levo F1, 210, 55, CL002, JCR010, Rezi CM, SBC S08 Dream Silver Satin/SBC W03 Metallic White, Neutral Logo, N/M
Battery : M2 700wh battery with new Gen3 "bash guard" housing the aqua (© Zim) door - sold complete as the M3.
Mastermind TCU V1. Configuration and problem solving :
Other - Mastermind (TCU 2) "How to" guides
The New TCU is here. I was going to try to grab video sections and take screen prints, but I've just found these which make a perfect thread start. These are all really short and clear, so even if you have the attention span of a goldfish like me, they're all watchable in a couple of minutes...www.emtbforums.com
More info from @knut7 Youtube : EMTB Videos & Gen3 Review :
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Frameset Only : £6500. The frame comes with:
Obviously, as with everything it’s subjective opinion but from your perspective having ridden both bikes would you buy this or the top spec Trek Rail 9? I have a 2020 Spec Turbo Levo Expert and just took delivery of a YT Decoy Elite. Thinking of selling the Spec and buying the new S-Works or the Trek, wondered what you would do in my shoes?
Frirish
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Loic Bruni got a nice present:
@Rob Rides EMTB,
Does the 2022 also have a better rear cover than the 2020 to keep crud out of the rear?
How much rear tire clearance?
I converted my 2020 Comp and 2021 SL to mullet+ (3.0 tires, both with 160 mm forks)...there is plenty of rear tire clearance.
So I’m wondering if a 27.5 x 2.8 can be squeezed in back of the 2022...
Thanks for the great review.
Does the 2022 also have a better rear cover than the 2020 to keep crud out of the rear?
How much rear tire clearance?
I converted my 2020 Comp and 2021 SL to mullet+ (3.0 tires, both with 160 mm forks)...there is plenty of rear tire clearance.
So I’m wondering if a 27.5 x 2.8 can be squeezed in back of the 2022...
Thanks for the great review.
Try these, all values set back from fully closed position.
High speed compression 6 clicks
Low speed 9
Low speed rebound 6
High speed rebound 4
Source, Marshall Mullen
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2022 Specialized Levo Gen 3: Ultimate in Depth Look
neiloxford
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Around the 22 minute mark. The 2.2 motor is the same internals as the latest 2021 2.1 motor. Sounds like it is a branding exercise to say they have fixed all the issues of the 2.1 so now called it 2.2 as they are confident all issues are fixed.
Yes I noticed that. To be fair though I did over 3k miles in my 21 MY S Works and had zero motor problems, if anything it go smoother as the miles went on. So may be they did fix it with the latest Gen 2 bikes.
Sheer Thrill
Member
Greeting Everyone!
I have a quick question. It appears that the New Levo features a brand new Eliminator Tire which is nowhere to be found online. Just look, it's an Eliminator in Grid Trail casing with the new T7 compound which is not available anywhere yet. Is anyone aware or knows if these will be shortly announced? Thanks!
I have a quick question. It appears that the New Levo features a brand new Eliminator Tire which is nowhere to be found online. Just look, it's an Eliminator in Grid Trail casing with the new T7 compound which is not available anywhere yet. Is anyone aware or knows if these will be shortly announced? Thanks!
Pivot
E*POWAH Master
Very interesting point, @josg
I like the idea of carbon wheels, but I think these work much better on road bikes with tiny tyres.
Practically, I am continuously scouting for the largest, grippiest tyres, with hard foam inserts and tubes for good measure. Like on my motorcycles, I always liked a fat rear tyre.
As a result, my rear wheel is sort of a flywheel, and saving 70 gram is a joke.
However, if I was a Pro with minions changing my tubeless tyres for every race condition, I would go carbon!
sometimesjoe
Member
I put in an order for the Expert and I'm with you. It's X01 for everything but chain and cassette. Sram XG-1275 cassette and GX chain is what is listed. Wheels I'll leave and beat up before replacing them with something else.
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Just been testing the 2026 Levo ?
(I got 20 of these totally limited edition launch vid kits to give away next week)
(I got 20 of these totally limited edition launch vid kits to give away next week)
Did you do that yourself Rob?
You are a clever boy ?
That's one hell of a Visiframe installation ! Did you do that or sit back and drink Coffee whilst Chris from Berkshire cleaned you bike and did it for you ?
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Well now I have a workshop I gotta be able to at least apply stickies to bikes ?
Wrap is stunning - was part of the alien concept by the producers of the launch movie - Sabretooth Pictures and artwork designed by Shredders Digest and produced by Ride Wrap for the Levo Gen 3 launch video.
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Adasb
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That would go nicely with this cool box my daughter found under mysterious circumstances....
HeatproofGenie
Active member
Wow, must say I like that greatly.
I have a full RideWrap kit on my '21 Evo and they make a quality product.
What frame size are the kits in the launch materials for?
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I have kits in S1-S5
Link to Rob's thread to claim your Alien Wrap.
Levo Gen 3 - Limited Edition Gen 3 Levo Launch Wraps
I got 20 of these to give away to Gen 3 Levo owners. Limited edition 2022 launch bike wraps. They are amazingly designed, high quality wraps and will transform your Levo into something unique - they are the exact wraps used in the Levo Gen 3 launch vid. you can’t buy them so a nice little...
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HeatproofGenie
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Nice. Not too surprising Specialized would give a full range of kits, they don't do anything halfway.
One would look good on the S5 Expert I'll be ordering. Just saying
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