Whyte Karve Evo

[kEARNEY79]

A response from whyte

"""Thank you for your message and interest in Whyte Bikes!

Thanks for getting in touch. As the bikes are not in dealers yet, there is still a limited amount of hands-on setup information available at this stage.

As a guideline, the weight should be around 24–25kg.

The rear shock size is 230 x 62.5mm, and yes, a coil can be fitted with no problem."""

Going to make a spread sheet to see what could be changed to save weight. Would be nice to get a weight for the none evo version too.

Seems to be getting heavier and heavier, saw some wild predictions of 18kg at the start

Please share your spreadsheet & thanks for sharing this

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

A response from whyte

"""Thank you for your message and interest in Whyte Bikes!

Thanks for getting in touch. As the bikes are not in dealers yet, there is still a limited amount of hands-on setup information available at this stage.

As a guideline, the weight should be around 24–25kg.

The rear shock size is 230 x 62.5mm, and yes, a coil can be fitted with no problem."""

Going to make a spread sheet to see what could be changed to save weight. Would be nice to get a weight for the none evo version too.

Seems to be getting heavier and heavier, saw some wild predictions of 18kg at the start

From what I remember seeing, potential weight savings:

- SRAM X0 Cassette
- Carbon Cranks Arms
- Carbon Wheels
- Carbon Bars

I reckon that would save only around 800g - 1kg

Lighest way of doing it likely to buy the NON EVO and get the full carbon bike, and change it out to DH spec

 

[DBuckett]

For me it's a fun thing to think about but when you work out the extra costs.... It's like yeah narh

Could go one up dropper to save weight as well.
600 watt battery ofc
Do all that then it's in the 22s

From what I remember seeing, potential weight savings:

- SRAM X0 Cassette
- Carbon Cranks Arms
- Carbon Wheels
- Carbon Bars

I reckon that would save only around 800g - 1kg

Lighest way of doing it likely to buy the NON EVO and get the full carbon bike, and change it out to DH spec

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

For me it's a fun thing to think about but when you work out the extra costs.... It's like yeah narh

Could go one up dropper to save weight as well.
600 watt battery ofc
Do all that then it's in the 22s

Agree - Even my demo £10K+ Orbea Wild is 23.7 KG

Fcuk all you can do to these enduro sleds without spending a ton of cash or just accept their gonna smash the DH extremely well and give up some of that playfulness on the more tame / twisty trails.

 

[Carl_W]

My old 2022 kenevo expert with schwalbe tyres weighed in about 26kgs, so 25kg is a slightly lighter bike, so its not like I will be going to a heavier bike, so winner winner chicken dinner

 

[Carl_W]

Agree - Even my demo £10K+ Orbea Wild is 23.7 KG

Fcuk all you can do to these enduro sleds without spending a ton of cash or just accept their gonna smash the DH extremely well and give up some of that playfulness on the more tame / twisty trails.

I think the weight and size of a rider also has an impact, smaller lighter riders probably prefer a lighter bike as its more playful, but im 5'10 and weigh 90kgs so i prefer a heavy bike as it feels a bit more stable

 

[kEARNEY79]

I think the weight and size of a rider also has an impact, smaller lighter riders probably prefer a lighter bike as its more playful, but im 5'10 and weigh 90kgs so i prefer a heavy bike as it feels a bit more stable

I’m 5’7 and 78kg. Hope I get on ok with my evo rsx medium

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Testing Bike handling card:

 

[DBuckett]

One of these Enduro bikes at 20kg would be awesome, hopefully CATL condensed batteries make it to the EBikes at some point. I don't need more power or range just what we have now in a lighter package.

Got any suggestions for carbon wheel upgrades for the whyte? I only really know reserve downhill rims.

 

[kEARNEY79]

Testing Bike handling card:

Does this mean you have one Rob, or is this just the info Whyte have released?

 

[Carl_W]

Sold my Kenevo Expert… now bikeless.

The 2022 Kenevo Expert is gone, and the new Whyte Karve EVO RSX (heavily modded ) is on the way. Absolutely buzzing for it… but right now I’ve got no bike at all and the weather is unreal. Typical.

To make it worse, my mate has just sent me pics of my old Kenevo on the trails we use to ride. Seeing someone else out enjoying my old bike while I’m sat here bikeless is emotional.

Honestly though, I’m seriously longing for the RSX to land. EXT shock, gold bits, full 29er, the whole dream build… can’t wait to get back out and send it again. Feel like a kid waiting for Christmas.

Anyone else been through the “sold the old bike, waiting for the new one, weather turns perfect” torture? Come on Whyte get your finger out and get my bike built, 16th July seems like a year away at the moment.

 

[kEARNEY79]

Sold my Kenevo Expert… now bikeless.

The 2022 Kenevo Expert is gone, and the new Whyte Karve EVO RSX (heavily modded ) is on the way. Absolutely buzzing for it… but right now I’ve got no bike at all and the weather is unreal. Typical.

To make it worse, my mate has just sent me pics of my old Kenevo on the trails we use to ride. Seeing someone else out enjoying my old bike while I’m sat here bikeless is emotional.

Honestly though, I’m seriously longing for the RSX to land. EXT shock, gold bits, full 29er, the whole dream build… can’t wait to get back out and send it again. Feel like a kid waiting for Christmas.

Anyone else been through the “sold the old bike, waiting for the new one, weather turns perfect” torture? Come on Whyte get your finger out and get my bike built, 16th July seems like a year away at the moment.

Gonna hold on to my levo for another month, just in case there’s any delays.

Hope it all goes smooth for you and the bike comes through on the scheduled date. Just use this period as a scheduled rest period. You’ll appreciate the karve much more when you get out on that first ride.

 

[Send_it]

I was just looking at the posts on Avinox MG gearbox unit and thinking would this be able to fit in the same space as the M2S?

 

[Send_it]

I was just looking at the posts on Avinox MG gearbox unit and thinking would this be able to fit in the same space as the M2S?

Rob Hancill on Instagram: "New Avinox Motor Gearbox announced. Stepless virtual gearing, infinite gear ratios! One of the biggest announcements of Eurobike 2026."

457 likes, 15 comments - robridesemtb on June 23, 2026: "New Avinox Motor Gearbox announced. Stepless virtual gearing, infinite gear ratios! One of the biggest announcements of Eurobike 2026.".

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[Send_it]

Rob Hancill on Instagram: "New Avinox Motor Gearbox announced. Stepless virtual gearing, infinite gear ratios! One of the biggest announcements of Eurobike 2026."

457 likes, 15 comments - robridesemtb on June 23, 2026: "New Avinox Motor Gearbox announced. Stepless virtual gearing, infinite gear ratios! One of the biggest announcements of Eurobike 2026.".

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Looks bigger?

 

[Send_it]

Anyone having a wobble on a Whyte Evo order after seeing what is out next year from eurobike? Mainly the Avinox MG? Luckily I still have my Kenevo

 

[b33k34]

Looks bigger?

would be very surprising if it wasn't. The mount bolt positions look the same, but I think theres more bulk (even if not larger dimensions) above the axle and on the lower half. It would kind of make sense so that manufacturers could use the same frame for both motor options.

Anyone having a wobble on a Whyte Evo order after seeing what is out next year from eurobike? Mainly the Avinox MG? Luckily I still have my Kenevo

Came here to say the same thing. Realistically this is a year to 18 months behind, and I sort of have a vague policy of not buying the first generation of anything - let someone else do the real world testing and bug fixing - but there weren't really any issues with the Avinox gen 1 (nor have I heard of any on the Pinion MG).

 

[kEARNEY79]

Anyone having a wobble on a Whyte Evo order after seeing what is out next year from eurobike? Mainly the Avinox MG? Luckily I still have my Kenevo

Na, there will always be something new on the horizon. It’ll probably take a couple of versions of the gearbox before it’s running sweet. I’ll change my bike in 2 years, we’ll see what’s available then.

The karve EVO RSX is a beast and we’re (hopefully) weeks away from receiving them.

 

[Send_it]

would be very surprising if it wasn't. The mount bolt positions look the same, but I think theres more bulk (even if not larger dimensions) above the axle and on the lower half. It would kind of make sense so that manufacturers could use the same frame for both motor options.

Came here to say the same thing. Realistically this is a year to 18 months behind, and I sort of have a vague policy of not buying the first generation of anything - let someone else do the real world testing and bug fixing - but there weren't really any issues with the Avinox gen 1 (nor have I heard of any on the Pinion MG).

i did see that someone who had a ride on the new MG at eurobike said it was better than the M1 for a pre production motor?

 

[kEARNEY79]

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Well hopefully get some new karve videos soon

 

[kEARNEY79]

Another Czech YouTube upload

 

[Carl_W]

Anyone having a wobble on a Whyte Evo order after seeing what is out next year from eurobike? Mainly the Avinox MG? Luckily I still have my Kenevo

Nope, quite happy for others to try that new tech, wont hit shops for another 18 months i reckon, plan changing my new bike in 2 years time anyway so that should mean I will have feedback and can buy one then. At the moment im so looking forward to the Karve EVO RSX, can't wait

 

[thevids]

If the shock is 62.5 stroke, it could probably be long-stroked to 65mm, and probably unlocking ~10mm more travel?

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

 

[DBuckett]

Hoping for some reviews soon, tempted to switch to this one over the evo and then get a DH bike

 

[TheSnowShark]

@Rob Rides EMTB

This bike is truly magnificent, it reflects exactly what the Levo 4 should have been..

 

[MartinH]

Way too much obsession with weight in my opinion going on. When you compare actual like for like builds across brands the difference is usually less than 1kg in total. I dont understand why anyone would buy a burly enduro bike and then put weaker light parts on it. My current Kenevo has a 2kg extender battery and once riding I absolutely cannot tell whether its fitted without looking down.

 

[kEARNEY79]

Way too much obsession with weight in my opinion going on. When you compare actual like for like builds across brands the difference is usually less than 1kg in total. I dont understand why anyone would buy a burly enduro bike and then put weaker light parts on it. My current Kenevo has a 2kg extender battery and once riding I absolutely cannot tell whether it’s fitted without looking down.

I disagree, a lighter enduro ebike can feel very capable, planted but also manoeuvrable and poppy. This isn’t all down to weight, as kinematics, geo & suspension setup play a big part, but less weight helps. A lighter ebike also means more range.

In my opinion a non electric enduro bike is more fun on the downs than an eeb, due to the weight penalty. These margins are getting smaller though due to lighter motors & batteries etc.

I’m defo not saying I’m right & you’re wrong, just a personal opinion. Some people like the extra weight.

 

[MartinH]

I disagree, a lighter enduro ebike can feel very capable, planted but also manoeuvrable and poppy. This isn’t all down to weight, as kinematics, geo & suspension setup play a big part, but less weight helps. A lighter ebike also means more range.

In my opinion a non electric enduro bike is more fun on the downs than an eeb, due to the weight penalty. These margins are getting smaller though due to lighter motors & batteries etc.

I’m defo not saying I’m right & you’re wrong, just a personal opinion. Some people like the extra weight.

If you are comparing an enduro ebike to non ebike with a difference of say 10kg, then I will agree it may feel less "manoeuvrable and poppy". But in my experience it's WAY more "planted". And as for "capable" - well those world cup downhill boys aren't adding lead to their bottom bracket for nothing.

But this isn't what people are talking about. They are saying they might buy a different brand, or swap out components to save to save half a kilo. My point is that in a blind test, if you think you can tell half a kilo then you are dreaming!

 

[kEARNEY79]

If you are comparing an enduro ebike to non ebike with a difference of say 10kg, then I will agree it may feel less "manoeuvrable and poppy". But in my experience it's WAY more "planted". And as for "capable" - well those world cup downhill boys aren't adding lead to their bottom bracket for nothing.

But this isn't what people are talking about. They are saying they might buy a different brand, or swap out components to save to save half a kilo. My point is that in a blind test, if you think you can tell half a kilo then you are dreaming!

Downhill & tight/twisty enduro are 2 different things. You don’t see enduro riders adding weight to their bikes. I see you’re in the Alps, so you might only ride downhill, I’m jealous.

I agree with you, half a kilo is nothing. The difference between the karve 160 & 180 is much more than half a kilo, it’s closer to 3 kilos, going on what we currently know. 3 kilos is massive and changes how the bikes rides.

Like you, I’m sticking with the evo RSX, id prefer it to be 22kg, but that’s not possible currently due to the weight of the components. I ride in Scotland, we have the tweed valley, Fort William, Glencoe, Dunkeld & hills a plenty 180/180 will be at home.

I hope your bike arrives soon.