Whyte Karve Evo

[b33k34]

I disagree, a lighter enduro ebike can feel very capable, planted but also manoeuvrable and poppy. This isn’t all down to weight, as kinematics, geo & suspension setup play a big part, but less weight helps.

In my opinion a non electric enduro bike is more fun on the downs than an eeb, due to the weight penalty. These margins are getting smaller though due to lighter motors & batteries etc.

Seconded - I think my Nukeproof mega feels *better* than my Orbea Rise because of it (and that's a light e bike). I've ridden heavier e bikes and yes, they'll thunder through stuff in a straight line but they take more effort to ride and are more tiring as a result (I feel it more in my shoulders afterwards). Some of that is weight distribution - if the weight is really low it's different (I had a Pinion bike) and that's where DH riders add weights (and the Orbea Rallon). I could definitely feel the RE weight on my mk1 Rise and it was only 1.5kg.

The difference should be less than 10kg - Avi motor and 800 battery is 6kg - but I do think theres a sweet spot around 20-22kg and I reckon theres a kg to be saved on a Karve *without* compromising performance which would be worth having.

On the other stuff I don't think theres 3kg between the Karve and the Karve Evo. The only spec differences are the suspension and the rear triangle material (and full 29 will be heavier than mullet). A kg at best. I'd love it to be 3kg but you look at the parts and tell me where that weight saving is going to come from - I just dont see it

"A lighter ebike also means more range."

Not to any appreciable extent. My partner is 20kg lighter than me and I've riding mates who are 20kg heavier. A couple of kg on the bike isn't material for range - it's maybe 2% of total system weight.

 

[kEARNEY79]

If you are comparing an enduro ebike to non ebike with a difference of say 10kg, then I will agree it may feel less "manoeuvrable and poppy". But in my experience it's WAY more "planted". And as for "capable" - well those world cup downhill boys aren't adding lead to their bottom bracket for nothing.

But this isn't what people are talking about. They are saying they might buy a different brand, or swap out components to save to save half a kilo. My point is that in a blind test, if you think you can tell half a kilo then you are dreaming!

Seconded - I think my Nukeproof mega feels *better* than my Orbea Rise because of it (and that's a light e bike). I've ridden heavier e bikes and yes, they'll thunder through stuff in a straight line but they take more effort to ride and are more tiring as a result (I feel it more in my shoulders afterwards). Some of that is weight distribution - if the weight is really low it's different (I had a Pinion bike) and that's where DH riders add weights (and the Orbea Rallon). I could definitely feel the RE weight on my mk1 Rise and it was only 1.5kg.

The difference should be less than 10kg - Avi motor and 800 battery is 6kg - but I do think theres a sweet spot around 20-22kg and I reckon theres a kg to be saved on a Karve *without* compromising performance which would be worth having.

On the other stuff I don't think theres 3kg between the Karve and the Karve Evo. The only spec differences are the suspension and the rear triangle material (and full 29 will be heavier than mullet). A kg at best. I'd love it to be 3kg but you look at the parts and tell me where that weight saving is going to come from - I just dont see it

"A lighter ebike also means more range."

Not to any appreciable extent. My partner is 20kg lighter than me and I've riding mates who are 20kg heavier. A couple of kg on the bike isn't material for range - it's maybe 2% of total system weight.

Yeah "closer to 3kg" might be an overestimate, but im just going on the little info we have from Whyte. I seen a insta post from Whyte saying the EVO RSX in L is weighing in at 24.6 kg without pedals, so we 're talking 25. Im sure i read somewhere that the 160/160 was 21 point something, but I agree with what you're saying where would that weight saving come from?

Im getting a medium EVO rsx, Ive already got lighter wheels and i'll change a few components to hopefully get it down to approx 23kg. This is 2 kg lighter than my current bike, this will be a noticeable upgrade for me.